Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
I agree that if you are situationally capable - don't even bring any moving company into the mix. We all need to jettison a lot of stuff, don't we? I have on a couple of moves left some things behind and taken only what I could fit inside my trusty car. But as in so many other areas, marriage complicates life. On this move, we had to go with the moving company and take whatever treatment they gave us. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Glenn, I hate to say it, but we have had trouble with almost every moving company over the years-we never used Wheaton, but Grabel was the worst-on a move from Ithaca to Nashville, they lost my antique 1950 Dodge half ton pickup for 6 weeks. It turned up in a fenced lot in NJ (no joke) Mayflower was not much better-that depended on who the local affiliate sent to unload you-we got 3 guys, two of whom were drunk and stoned. Packing was not much better for some of them. And Grabel was slow to settle claim of damage to new floor from refrigerator being dragged across it. Anyway, the best movers were my friends and I 30 years ago with a U-Haul and a couple cases of Yuengling Beer. Hope you are getting settled in W. NC-I visit Hendersonville several times a year to see family. Do check out Euro spec for an Indy specializing in MB. My 'new' 240D (1978) is being serviced there before its ride North next month. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
We had insurance and they still only reimbursed us $.45 per pound, regardless of the items' value. The industry is pathologically under-regulated. On 8/24/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, I hate to say it, but we have had trouble with almost every moving company over the years-we never used Wheaton, but Grabel was the worst-on a move from Ithaca to Nashville, they lost my antique 1950 Dodge half ton pickup for 6 weeks. It turned up in a fenced lot in NJ (no joke) Mayflower was not much better-that depended on who the local affiliate sent to unload you-we got 3 guys, two of whom were drunk and stoned. Packing was not much better for some of them. And Grabel was slow to settle claim of damage to new floor from refrigerator being dragged across it. Anyway, the best movers were my friends and I 30 years ago with a U-Haul and a couple cases of Yuengling Beer. Hope you are getting settled in W. NC-I visit Hendersonville several times a year to see family. Do check out Euro spec for an Indy specializing in MB. My 'new' 240D (1978) is being serviced there before its ride North next month. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
You hit the nail on the head when you said depended on who the local affiliate sent That's the only realistic difference between most movers. The big trucks are regulated by FCC so there will be little difference in prices and policies. Mostly the local people on temp hire will pack and load your precious stuff and they couldn't care less.. Sorry - that's the way it is. We were moved 10 times in 15 years and it was always paid for by my employer and it was always the same - frustrating. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines Glenn, I hate to say it, but we have had trouble with almost every moving company over the years-we never used Wheaton, but Grabel was the worst-on a move from Ithaca to Nashville, they lost my antique 1950 Dodge half ton pickup for 6 weeks. It turned up in a fenced lot in NJ (no joke) Mayflower was not much better-that depended on who the local affiliate sent to unload you-we got 3 guys, two of whom were drunk and stoned. Packing was not much better for some of them. And Grabel was slow to settle claim of damage to new floor from refrigerator being dragged across it. Anyway, the best movers were my friends and I 30 years ago with a U-Haul and a couple cases of Yuengling Beer. Hope you are getting settled in W. NC-I visit Hendersonville several times a year to see family. Do check out Euro spec for an Indy specializing in MB. My 'new' 240D (1978) is being serviced there before its ride North next month. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
You have to check to see if your homeowners/renters insurance covers your stuff in a move, then file with them and let them duke it out with the carrier. ---Robert andrew strasfogel wrote: We had insurance and they still only reimbursed us $.45 per pound, regardless of the items' value. The industry is pathologically under-regulated. On 8/24/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, I hate to say it, but we have had trouble with almost every moving company over the years-we never used Wheaton, but Grabel was the worst-on a move from Ithaca to Nashville, they lost my antique 1950 Dodge half ton pickup for 6 weeks. It turned up in a fenced lot in NJ (no joke) Mayflower was not much better-that depended on who the local affiliate sent to unload you-we got 3 guys, two of whom were drunk and stoned. Packing was not much better for some of them. And Grabel was slow to settle claim of damage to new floor from refrigerator being dragged across it. Anyway, the best movers were my friends and I 30 years ago with a U-Haul and a couple cases of Yuengling Beer. Hope you are getting settled in W. NC-I visit Hendersonville several times a year to see family. Do check out Euro spec for an Indy specializing in MB. My 'new' 240D (1978) is being serviced there before its ride North next month. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
I'm young so haven't been in the position to need a moving company, but I had a friend who worked a summer as a mover and his comments on it basically mirrored what you guys have said. ie, A lot of the crew were not the best stock of the labor pool... One thing I did find interesting is that some people gave them tips... some also cooked on the BBQ for them as well. Has anyone noticed if this helps any? As an unrelated side note... on one of the 'Open discussion' sites of another MB Forum someone mentioned that they tip their garbage men. Anybody else do that? I don't even know how I would go about doing that or if I even have the same guys on a consistent basis! John LarryT wrote: You hit the nail on the head when you said depended on who the local affiliate sent That's the only realistic difference between most movers. The big trucks are regulated by FCC so there will be little difference in prices and policies. Mostly the local people on temp hire will pack and load your precious stuff and they couldn't care less.. Sorry - that's the way it is. We were moved 10 times in 15 years and it was always paid for by my employer and it was always the same - frustrating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
On 8/24/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I did find interesting is that some people gave them tips... some also cooked on the BBQ for them as well. Has anyone noticed if this helps any? Tips and cooking would normally come after the fact, so it would only help if you use then again. As an unrelated side note... on one of the 'Open discussion' sites of another MB Forum someone mentioned that they tip their garbage men. Anybody else do that? I don't even know how I would go about doing that or if I even have the same guys on a consistent basis! I tip my garbage guys every Christmas. I call to find out their first names, prepare each one a cash envelope and place it near the bags on a pine branch with a Merry Christmas sign. The driver has only changed once over the years, but the tail gate guys are inmates from the county jail. I also tip my mail carrier, UPS driver and FedEx driver with cash. My card always thanks them for giving us great service. Harry http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:23:35 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You hit the nail on the head when you said depended on who the local affiliate sent That's the only realistic difference between most movers. The big trucks are regulated by FCC ICC, Interstate Commerce Commission, not Federal Communications Commission. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
I know this doesn't help your current situation, but I'm going to chime in on mover-woes too. We are still unpacking and have found some major things missing and damaged. The three guys had such a thick ebonics language going among themselves it was annoying. That's all fine, I guess, but the main guy had that typical tough guy attitude and no courtesy/respect. And when they could not account for several items at the end of their unloading, he got very defensive with me. He thought he was above reproach, despite the obviously missing and damaged things. Two different moving companies were involved for reasons unknown to us. One was Mayflower, and the other I don't remember right now. Despite my wife's discussing things with them before hand, they went ahead and took a more expensive route and charged us the difference. When they came back from lunch, they were quite a bit more, well, relaxed. With most of our bicycles, they twisted the handlebars to parallel with the frame. When I mentioned that the bikes were damaged, they told me oh yeah, that's what we do to make them fit. Fiasco. We will be making quite a claim, but by the sounds of things on the forum here, we will be fought tooth and nail. Okay, this has been a rough draft for a complaint to moving company. Brian On 8/24/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Last time my uncle moved he sold everything that would not fit in one trip in his car. Said he never really missed anything. Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this doesn't help your current situation, but I'm going to chime in on mover-woes too. We are still unpacking and have found some major things missing and damaged. The three guys had such a thick ebonics language going among themselves it was annoying. That's all fine, I guess, but the main guy had that typical tough guy attitude and no courtesy/respect. And when they could not account for several items at the end of their unloading, he got very defensive with me. He thought he was above reproach, despite the obviously missing and damaged things. Two different moving companies were involved for reasons unknown to us. One was Mayflower, and the other I don't remember right now. Despite my wife's discussing things with them before hand, they went ahead and took a more expensive route and charged us the difference. When they came back from lunch, they were quite a bit more, well, relaxed. With most of our bicycles, they twisted the handlebars to parallel with the frame. When I mentioned that the bikes were damaged, they told me oh yeah, that's what we do to make them fit. Fiasco. We will be making quite a claim, but by the sounds of things on the forum here, we will be fought tooth and nail. Okay, this has been a rough draft for a complaint to moving company. Brian On 8/24/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
The worst thing about moving companies is that they are poorly regulated, and pretty much left to dictate whatever they want. You're screwed for the most part with them no matter what, since they get your money up front and have your stuff to hold in the event you balk. When we moved down here from Wisconsin, we used Mayflower. When the driver showed up at the storage facility with our stuff, his bill of lading showed a different amount than what Mayflower had given us on the front end. He demanded immediate payment. We refused to pay. The driver was a real prick, telling us he was going to dump everything in a parking lot, etc. He said the BOL we had meant nothing, and refused to call Mayflower to get a ruling on the situation. When he was done ranting, I took the voice recorder out of my front pocket and suggested that his employer would not be pleased to hear his threats, nor would our state department of consumer affairs. He signed off on the BOL and let us unload. Without helping, of course. I have a cousin that works for Mayflower at their headquarters in Indianapolis (Zionsville, IN). He warned me in advance to cover my ass as much as I possibly could, that no matter what I did I would probably find myself up against some sort of problem due to the distance we were moving. I will say that the packers they used did a good job. I don't recall anything being damaged. Dan --- Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Having been in that industry a long time ago (for two different carriers who essentially merged, though they keep seperate ICC numbers and have separate trucks), it entirely depends on the local affiliate. Some of them are excellent, some of them are the only gig in town. We used to maintain an unofficial list of agents that we wouldn't deal with for a job we sold. Claims and liability are somewhat limited due to laws and waivers and such, and since nobody has mentioned it There are generally three types of coverage that movers have as options: - full replacement cost coverage (the item is repaired up to the replacement cost, or is replaced). - actual cash value coverage (which is a misnomer - it takes into account the age of the item and its original purchase price, and is aggressively depreciated) - whatever they give you for free (the above two cost money), which really is quite limited There is generally a deductible option as well to knock down the price of the coverage. Mind you, it's not INSURANCE, it's really quite different. It's been many years since I worked in that industry. Parts of it were fun, other parts I don't miss at all. Seriously, the best way to move is to sell everything, and buy new at your new house, if the move is over a long distance. By getting rid of the big furniture, you knock the cost of the move way down, and the little stuff in boxes, and small appliances that are easy to move you can put on a uhaul or in a truck yourself. On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:23:35PM -0400, LarryT wrote: You hit the nail on the head when you said depended on who the local affiliate sent That's the only realistic difference between most movers. The big trucks are regulated by FCC so there will be little difference in prices and policies. Mostly the local people on temp hire will pack and load your precious stuff and they couldn't care less.. Sorry - that's the way it is. We were moved 10 times in 15 years and it was always paid for by my employer and it was always the same - frustrating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, the best way to move is to sell everything, and buy new at your new house, if the move is over a long distance. By getting rid of the big furniture, you knock the cost of the move way down, and the little stuff in boxes, and small appliances that are easy to move you can put on a uhaul or in a truck yourself. Are you any better protected if you ship any large items as freight vs. having a moving company handle it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 04:20:28PM -0400, Allan Streib wrote: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, the best way to move is to sell everything, and buy new at your new house, if the move is over a long distance. By getting rid of the big furniture, you knock the cost of the move way down, and the little stuff in boxes, and small appliances that are easy to move you can put on a uhaul or in a truck yourself. Are you any better protected if you ship any large items as freight vs. having a moving company handle it? Don't know, you'd have to read the fine print. Some freight companies offer containers that you can fill, that they can move by forklift. Might be a good way to go and you can pack the container yourself... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Kevin wrote: Don't know, you'd have to read the fine print. Some freight companies offer containers that you can fill, that they can move by forklift. Might be a good way to go and you can pack the container yourself... http://www.pods.com/ These people? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
www.upack.com On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:54:28 -0500, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having been in that industry a long time ago (for two different carriers who essentially merged, though they keep seperate ICC numbers and have separate trucks), it entirely depends on the local affiliate. Some of them are excellent, some of them are the only gig in town. We used to maintain an unofficial list of agents that we wouldn't deal with for a job we sold. Claims and liability are somewhat limited due to laws and waivers and such, and since nobody has mentioned it There are generally three types of coverage that movers have as options: - full replacement cost coverage (the item is repaired up to the replacement cost, or is replaced). - actual cash value coverage (which is a misnomer - it takes into account the age of the item and its original purchase price, and is aggressively depreciated) - whatever they give you for free (the above two cost money), which really is quite limited There is generally a deductible option as well to knock down the price of the coverage. Mind you, it's not INSURANCE, it's really quite different. It's been many years since I worked in that industry. Parts of it were fun, other parts I don't miss at all. Seriously, the best way to move is to sell everything, and buy new at your new house, if the move is over a long distance. By getting rid of the big furniture, you knock the cost of the move way down, and the little stuff in boxes, and small appliances that are easy to move you can put on a uhaul or in a truck yourself. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
One thing most people don't know is that its real rare for your stuff to go on to a moving van and be delivered by same van on the other end, at least not without some shuffling in between. One truck will generally make a handful of pickups in an area, then go to a storage facility, where it's offloaded, shufled, bent spindled and mutilated, and combined with other housholds on a truck going in the direction of your move, usually 2 or more households per van, sometimes three or four., Then sometimes along the way your stuff will be offloaded at another storage facility or two to get it aimed in the right direction. All in all, it gets handled a lot before it gets to your new abode, and if you think it gets handled rough while you're watching... I drove for a company that did household moves years ago, but I only did a few, I hauled mostly electronics, but it's a real strange game. There are a few small operators who will handle your stuff personally, point to point that have very good reputations. Unfortunately, the help for loading etc generally comes from a temp agency and you get the bottom of the barrell. those Pods and ABF setups where they drop a container or a trailer and you can hire your own folks to load unload and they pick it up and take it to the new place, are another half decent option. My sister and her family recently did the pod move, it wasn't bad, they had the container for a week or so to load at their leisure, then about the same on the other end to unload it, with an option to rent the thing longer if they needed more time . Nice thing with this option is you can hire folks to do the heavy work, usually you can find some stout college kids who want to make some money , your homeowners insurance etc should have a provision to cover people you hire to work around your house if you have a blanket policy ( stay away from the football players, a bunch of big wimps who run out of steam after a very short time and whine like babies, used to amaze me how an old worn out truck driver who hasn't slept ( me ) could handle more freight than 3 young football players, I ran into that situation more times than I can count , and I've never been the picture of health) Big problem is for company moves, they usually have a contract with specific carrier so you're stuck with whoever they're paying for. -Robert Glenn Brown wrote: For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
From experience, the best way to move is to rent the largest truck you can afford having a move out party, serving plenty of BBQ and beer AFTER THE TRUCK IS LOADED. The large stuff won't fit gets sold to the local used furniture peddler the small stuff that don't fit gets set on the curb for the junk dealers. You are usually stuck unloading the other end by yourself. I had to move my wife to Wisconsin because her employer relocated her (whole nother story, lots of commuting, etc, etc). She does not know it yet but we are having one huge yard sale when she moves back. That is unless they move her again before she gets a chance to retire! Anyone up that way need an apartment full of furniture in a few years? I'm accepting early offers Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines www.upack.com On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:54:28 -0500, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having been in that industry a long time ago (for two different carriers who essentially merged, though they keep seperate ICC numbers and have separate trucks), it entirely depends on the local affiliate. Some of them are excellent, some of them are the only gig in town. We used to maintain an unofficial list of agents that we wouldn't deal with for a job we sold. Claims and liability are somewhat limited due to laws and waivers and such, and since nobody has mentioned it There are generally three types of coverage that movers have as options: - full replacement cost coverage (the item is repaired up to the replacement cost, or is replaced). - actual cash value coverage (which is a misnomer - it takes into account the age of the item and its original purchase price, and is aggressively depreciated) - whatever they give you for free (the above two cost money), which really is quite limited There is generally a deductible option as well to knock down the price of the coverage. Mind you, it's not INSURANCE, it's really quite different. It's been many years since I worked in that industry. Parts of it were fun, other parts I don't miss at all. Seriously, the best way to move is to sell everything, and buy new at your new house, if the move is over a long distance. By getting rid of the big furniture, you knock the cost of the move way down, and the little stuff in boxes, and small appliances that are easy to move you can put on a uhaul or in a truck yourself. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
Thanks Craig - Dyslexia strikes again. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:23:35 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You hit the nail on the head when you said depended on who the local affiliate sent That's the only realistic difference between most movers. The big trucks are regulated by FCC ICC, Interstate Commerce Commission, not Federal Communications Commission. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- Interesting that the last investigation Consumers Reports did of Van Lines was in 1986. (CU Sep 1986-pg 566) At that time Wheaton Van Lines was rated the best. They don't seem to have done any investigations since; possibly because of the decline in service from all van lines. My daughters neighbor seems to have found the solution to long distance moves. They hired a truckline which set a freight container in their drive. They hired one man from the local labor exchange for the heavy work such as loading the refrigerator etc., (I think they sent the first man back because he didn't want to do heavy lifting) and did most of it themselves. They locked it with their own padlocks and the moving company picked it up and delivered it to the destination. Nothing was broken, nothing was missing. The cost was more than quotes from the van lines but probably not any more expensive in the long run and the result was a lot more peace of mind. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:28 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: We had insurance and they still only reimbursed us $.45 per pound, regardless of the items' value. The industry is pathologically under-regulated. Don't get my wife started on this... 5 boxes or so gone... They didn't write down exactly what was in the box cause it said (bedroom 4d) and even tho you have 'full' insurance since there is no record of what it was, then mmm 0.45 lb... At least today you can digitally photograph everything that goes into the boxes... Assuming they will accept that evidence versus wanting a hand written record, so get it in writing that you can use photographs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
The last move we made was 20 years agi and since I was a contract employee, the company paid zero - It was a ~240 mile trip and I commuted for a couple of months while we found a place to live and each week I'd fill the car up with stuff and put in the self store. The weekend of the big move we rented a big u-haul and my wife I moved *everything* ourselves - both ends. Then we drove back and got another (final) load and droe it back the next day. Whew! Long, hard 2 day weekend! I hope I never move again -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- Interesting that the last investigation Consumers Reports did of Van Lines was in 1986. (CU Sep 1986-pg 566) At that time Wheaton Van Lines was rated the best. They don't seem to have done any investigations since; possibly because of the decline in service from all van lines. My daughters neighbor seems to have found the solution to long distance moves. They hired a truckline which set a freight container in their drive. They hired one man from the local labor exchange for the heavy work such as loading the refrigerator etc., (I think they sent the first man back because he didn't want to do heavy lifting) and did most of it themselves. They locked it with their own padlocks and the moving company picked it up and delivered it to the destination. Nothing was broken, nothing was missing. The cost was more than quotes from the van lines but probably not any more expensive in the long run and the result was a lot more peace of mind. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
