Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
dd-wrt This is a linux distro for linksys WRT54GL routers, router is about $45 and with dd-wrt's software it will do wireless bridge as well as a lot of other stuff. For example where I worked they paid $600 for VPN box, dd-wrt does the same $45. Also dd-wrt supports other wireless routers as well. We set up a wireless bridge (wireless back to CAT5) at work to connect remote office space using dd-wrt. Trampas -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:59 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Thanks for the info Fred. I'm going to try a couple of those homemade WiFi antennas, but I am not anywhere near 300 meters from the other end of the MIL apartment. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of fred.s...@verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:46 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Klattavolk. 300 meters, by the book, unless a router/switch etc is used. Fred Moir Dec 9, 2008 02:47:04 PM, [1]merce...@okiebenz.com wrote: Bill R [2]billr32...@comcast.net said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan References 1. mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com 2. mailto:billr32...@comcast.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Trampas tst...@nc.rr.com writes: dd-wrt This is a linux distro for linksys WRT54GL routers, router is about $45 and with dd-wrt's software it will do wireless bridge as well as a lot of other stuff. For example where I worked they paid $600 for VPN box, dd-wrt does the same $45. Also dd-wrt supports other wireless routers as well. Yep, I'm using it in my WRT54G to do bridging. Working flawlessly so far (been up for about a week now). The story is interesting -- LinkSys based their firmware on Linux, and so were obligated to provide the source code under the terms of the GPL. The DD-WRT project has enhanced the firmware so that these consumer-grade devices can do a lot of things that commercial networking gear does. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
A lot of my Mac buddies swear by the WRT54GL for just this reason - there are boatloads of hacks and other tweaks out there from folks who mess around with this stuff. MacDan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 5:34 PM Trampas tst...@nc.rr.com writes: dd-wrt This is a linux distro for linksys WRT54GL routers, router is about $45 and with dd-wrt's software it will do wireless bridge as well as a lot of other stuff. For example where I worked they paid $600 for VPN box, dd-wrt does the same $45. Also dd-wrt supports other wireless routers as well. Yep, I'm using it in my WRT54G to do bridging. Working flawlessly so far (been up for about a week now). The story is interesting -- LinkSys based their firmware on Linux, and so were obligated to provide the source code under the terms of the GPL. The DD-WRT project has enhanced the firmware so that these consumer-grade devices can do a lot of things that commercial networking gear does. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Keep it cool, it might need a fan if it doesn't have plenty of ventilation. Luther Allan Streib wrote: Trampas tst...@nc.rr.com writes: dd-wrt This is a linux distro for linksys WRT54GL routers, router is about $45 and with dd-wrt's software it will do wireless bridge as well as a lot of other stuff. For example where I worked they paid $600 for VPN box, dd-wrt does the same $45. Also dd-wrt supports other wireless routers as well. Yep, I'm using it in my WRT54G to do bridging. Working flawlessly so far (been up for about a week now). The story is interesting -- LinkSys based their firmware on Linux, and so were obligated to provide the source code under the terms of the GPL. The DD-WRT project has enhanced the firmware so that these consumer-grade devices can do a lot of things that commercial networking gear does. Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
It seems than at Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:31:48 -0700, Craig wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:14:06 -0800 (PST) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. 300' or 310', IIRC. 100 meters, 328 feet. That's the length limit for _ethernet_ link, not CAT5. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Thanks, Dan. I'll be under that by a fair amount. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge 300' or 310', IIRC. Dan --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:46 PM Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Klattavolk. 300 meters, by the book, unless a router/switch etc is used. Fred Moir Dec 9, 2008 02:47:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan References 1. mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Thanks for the info Fred. I'm going to try a couple of those homemade WiFi antennas, but I am not anywhere near 300 meters from the other end of the MIL apartment. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:46 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Klattavolk. 300 meters, by the book, unless a router/switch etc is used. Fred Moir Dec 9, 2008 02:47:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan References 1. mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
i just bought one specifically designed to replace the tiny stock antenna on the pci wirelelss card on my dessktop. i don't know what any of this means, but stock is like 2db and this one is 7db and this increase was adequate for my purposes. you can get more powerful ones as well though as i've seen 25db ones. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought two 14 antennas for wireless setup, then discovered they would not go on the fitting on the wireless. Got two adaptors, but that signal was even worse. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge similar experience with my old liksys -- up for years also, why do you need a bridge and not just a better antenna? i was having signal problems from one end of my house to another and just got a bit bigger than stock antenna. no more issues. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Gary Hurst wrote: i just bought one specifically designed to replace the tiny stock antenna on the pci wirelelss card on my dessktop. i don't know what any of this means, but stock is like 2db and this one is 7db and this increase was adequate for my purposes. you can get more powerful ones as well though as i've seen 25db ones. There are plans for homemade wifi antennae all over the place. One of my favorites involves making a quad and mounting it in a round cake pan, something like 20-30 db gain on each end. Works great if both ends are stationary, otherwise you need unidirectional antennae. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are plans for homemade wifi antennae all over the place. One of my favorites involves making a quad and mounting it in a round cake pan, something like 20-30 db gain on each end. Works great if both ends are stationary, otherwise you need unidirectional antennae. I like the one where you use a wok or conductive colander for a long-range point-to-point setup. Previous owners of our house left behind a disconnected DirectTV dish which I plan to repurpose the same way to extend our house WiFi out to the barn---why waste a perfectly good parabolic reflector? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Allan - I have been having lots of problems with my old WRT54G unit [low power output and sometimes daily restarts]. Can I flash it to Linux and still use it on my XP computers [I am computerally challenged on that stuff]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my plan now is to replace my WRT54G with the NetGear as the primary wireless router, reflash the WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware, and use it in the basement as my wireless bridge. I'll post an update of how this works out. Got around to trying this tonight, and it work well! I have network access in the basement now for my non-wireless PCs, via my old LinkSys WRT54G. Instructions for flashing the Linksys and setting up bridge mode are both found at the dd-wrt web site, and worked without exception. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Allan - I have been having lots of problems with my old WRT54G unit [low power output and sometimes daily restarts]. Can I flash it to Linux and still use it on my XP computers [I am computerally challenged on that stuff]. I suppose you could try, but I'm not sure how changing the firmware (basically the OS that the device runs internally) would help with low power and instability. Wondering if you have an actual hardware problem with the router. The only reason I did this with my LinkSys is to get the client bridge capability without shelling out $$ for a new device -- not because of any problems or instability I was having with the device itself. Another caveat is that if something goes wrong you can brick the router -- i.e. put it into a state where it won't even boot up and it basically becomes a paperweight. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I like the one where you use a wok or conductive colander for a long-range point-to-point setup. http://dustydragon.com/wifi.htm http://www.lincomatic.com/wireless/homebrewant.html http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template/ http://www.saunalahti.fi/elepal/antenna1.html http://www.trevormarshall.com/biquad.htm http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge i just bought one specifically designed to replace the tiny stock antenna on the pci wirelelss card on my dessktop. i don't know what any of this means, but stock is like 2db and this one is 7db and this increase was adequate for my purposes. you can get more powerful ones as well though as i've seen 25db ones. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought two 14 antennas for wireless setup, then discovered they would not go on the fitting on the wireless. Got two adaptors, but that signal was even worse. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge similar experience with my old liksys -- up for years also, why do you need a bridge and not just a better antenna? i was having signal problems from one end of my house to another and just got a bit bigger than stock antenna. no more issues. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Thanks Allan - As I think about it I basically have a mostly usable, if annoying, brick now. Maybe Manfred will find his crimping tool for the CAT5 and I will get up the energy to run the line. I'm told there is a set of snow skis in that part of the attic [never been up there]. I have been blaming Comcast for the constant loss of service, and it might well be that both of them are off a bit. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Allan - I have been having lots of problems with my old WRT54G unit [low power output and sometimes daily restarts]. Can I flash it to Linux and still use it on my XP computers [I am computerally challenged on that stuff]. I suppose you could try, but I'm not sure how changing the firmware (basically the OS that the device runs internally) would help with low power and instability. Wondering if you have an actual hardware problem with the router. The only reason I did this with my LinkSys is to get the client bridge capability without shelling out $$ for a new device -- not because of any problems or instability I was having with the device itself. Another caveat is that if something goes wrong you can brick the router -- i.e. put it into a state where it won't even boot up and it basically becomes a paperweight. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Those sure look easy enough to give it a try. I like easy. Thanks. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge Alex Chamberlain wrote: I like the one where you use a wok or conductive colander for a long-range point-to-point setup. http://dustydragon.com/wifi.htm http://www.lincomatic.com/wireless/homebrewant.html http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template/ http://www.saunalahti.fi/elepal/antenna1.html http://www.trevormarshall.com/biquad.htm http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
300' or 310', IIRC. Dan --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:46 PM Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: These are 12db, but are less effective than the short stock ones. I think I am going to give up and install the 250' of CAT5 I have sitting in a box next to my computer. Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Pringles can. Been tested to over 14 miles line of sight, I believe. There was a Mac guy in New Zealand who got some distance like this out of a Pringles can setup. MacDan --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:38 PM Alex Chamberlain wrote: I like the one where you use a wok or conductive colander for a long-range point-to-point setup. http://dustydragon.com/wifi.htm http://www.lincomatic.com/wireless/homebrewant.html http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template/ http://www.saunalahti.fi/elepal/antenna1.html http://www.trevormarshall.com/biquad.htm http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
LWB250 wrote: Pringles can. Been tested to over 14 miles line of sight, I believe. There was a Mac guy in New Zealand who got some distance like this out of a Pringles can setup. But, if you're going to the effort to make a cantenna or other wave guide antenna, you can get better performance (and much better durability) if you don't use an aluminized cardboard Pringles can. http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
One more link on the cantenna topic: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:14:06 -0800 (PST) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even CAT5 has limited length on its runs. I'm not sure what it is, offhand. 300' or 310', IIRC. 100 meters, 328 feet. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my plan now is to replace my WRT54G with the NetGear as the primary wireless router, reflash the WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware, and use it in the basement as my wireless bridge. I'll post an update of how this works out. Got around to trying this tonight, and it work well! I have network access in the basement now for my non-wireless PCs, via my old LinkSys WRT54G. Instructions for flashing the Linksys and setting up bridge mode are both found at the dd-wrt web site, and worked without exception. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
I wonder if I have some other problem with it. It is a fairly long distance from the far end of Mom's apartment to my office, with many walls between. My WRT54G has never been able to put out a strong signal, even to my IPAQ when I am sitting in front of it. I also have a Linksys wireless 'B; with a range extender, and that also does not do well. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
I bought two 14 antennas for wireless setup, then discovered they would not go on the fitting on the wireless. Got two adaptors, but that signal was even worse. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge similar experience with my old liksys -- up for years also, why do you need a bridge and not just a better antenna? i was having signal problems from one end of my house to another and just got a bit bigger than stock antenna. no more issues. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge I would NOT buy Linksys for this, buy USR. My connection at the house is a shared connection with my neighbor. He is about 500' south of me, with 4-5 large oak trees, 2 outside walls, and 3 interior walls in between our USR access points. We started the connection with a Linksys on his end, and it needed to be restarted once a week. The USR's hardly ever need to be restarted. I watch HD TV over this wireless connection (1.5-2.0Mb/s data transfer) and have downloaded 2 Linux cds simultaneously running an average of 600KB/s (or 4.8Mb/s) during the download. Luther Allan Streib wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
similar experience with my old liksys -- up for years also, why do you need a bridge and not just a better antenna? i was having signal problems from one end of my house to another and just got a bit bigger than stock antenna. no more issues. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Linksys WRT54GL (L for Linux) works very well, from one end of the house to the other, but I've never looked into using one as a bridge. It's been up for years -- On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd second the suggestion to avoid the Linksys. I have to restart mine about every two days, and have a 'very low' signal from one end of the house to the other. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also, why do you need a bridge and not just a better antenna? i was having signal problems from one end of my house to another and just got a bit bigger than stock antenna. no more issues. It's not a signal issue. The signal is fine. I have some computers in the basement that do not have wireless adaptors. So, I want to use wired connections from them to a wireless bridge device to get internet access for them. Tonight I went to Best Buy and bought a router. None of their wireless routers had any mention of a bridging capability on the packaging, and of course the staff was clueless. So I bought the cheapest brand that I had actually heard the name of before, which was a NetGear (WGR614), with assurances that I could return it if it didn't work out. Got home and found that it does NOT support operating in a wireless bridge mode, or so the documentation claimed. Got on google, and discovered that it is possible using my other router, a LinkSys WRT54G. Here's the deal: LinkSys based their firmware in the WRT54G on linux source code. This was discovered and they were forced to release their firmware source code under the GPL. Several folks have taken it upon themselves to enhance the firmware to make wireless bridging (and all kinds of other stuff) possible on this inexpensive LinkSys hardware. DD-WRT is one of these projects. Actually they have firmware for a lot more brands than just LinkSys but the WRT54G is one of the ones that has the best support. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_DD-WRT%3F So my plan now is to replace my WRT54G with the NetGear as the primary wireless router, reflash the WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware, and use it in the basement as my wireless bridge. I'll post an update of how this works out. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
I would NOT buy Linksys for this, buy USR. My connection at the house is a shared connection with my neighbor. He is about 500' south of me, with 4-5 large oak trees, 2 outside walls, and 3 interior walls in between our USR access points. We started the connection with a Linksys on his end, and it needed to be restarted once a week. The USR's hardly ever need to be restarted. I watch HD TV over this wireless connection (1.5-2.0Mb/s data transfer) and have downloaded 2 Linux cds simultaneously running an average of 600KB/s (or 4.8Mb/s) during the download. Luther Allan Streib wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
i've never had any problem with anything other than that bottom of the line chinese garbage. my last setup was linksys and worked flawlessly. my upgraded system is d-link and while not as reliable as the linksys was, it is pretty damn reliable. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Airport Express. Makes a great bridge, and also gives you the ability to run AirTunes (connect your iTunes library to remote speakers) or even connect a remote printer. It will do WDS right out of the box... Dan --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:20 PM Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Buffalo is a good brand. Can go either way, as router or end point clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
