Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

Wilt,

I'm glad your grandson is okay, and things are starting to normalize
for the city.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:
> You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I used to 
> see in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would rotate the stories 
> every 30 minutes, so that if you watched more than an hour you saw the same 
> stuff, over and over again, with minor embellishments.

Every time I'm at a place with any CNN channel on, it's some girl
reading tweets and playing youtube videos.  I don't get the business
model anymore, unless it's "trade on our good name".

Peace,
Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

When I lived in Cambridge I usually made sure I got back from class 
before dark and before the gun shots started, at least when it was 
warm.  There was a railroad track that ran along behind an old 
warehouse/factory building, next to campus and where my apt building was 
(it had been the Advent factory at some point), and the locals liked to 
go back along there and shoot at each other or something. But it was OK 
as Cambridge was a Domestic Violence-free Zone (or a Domestic Violence 
Free-zone), and a Nuclear-free Zone.  The Nuclear-free Zone sign was on 
Mass Ave just a coupla blocks before the MIT nuclear reactor, which was 
a never-ending source of amusement to one and all.  There were also 
stringent gun-control laws, so those gunshots I thought I heard must 
have been firecrackers.


--R

On 11/16/15 8:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I was like 30 minutes late to a meeting in Peru because I was totally entranced 
watching Warner Brothers cartoons in Spanish in my hotel room.

I can only recall worrying about gunshots in Guatemala and Angola.  Neither was 
a pleasant place.

Dan



On Nov 16, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


Ug!   CrapNN A  month in Uganda, no other "merkuns and the only thing that was not in indian 
was the Crap "news" "network"  It is no wonder the crazies hate the USA if you watch 
that marxist propaganda drivel over and over, same drivel every half hour!  At least until dark (about 
7-7:30) I could sit outside and drink a coke or whatever. After dark, the gunshots were unnerving.

On the good side, We did get to watch popeye in italian at Metaponto (Italy) 
for a week when everything was locked up for siesta, or whatever it is called 
in Italian.  Popeye was a blast.  the lines were in italian, but the songs were 
in English

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> ...(it had been the Advent factory at some point)...

Advent speakers here.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/11/2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I have yet to find a single flaw, Wilton, though not for want of trying.  ;)

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:


Thanks.  'Talked to Grandson few minutes ago.  'Sad time at work.  His
boss'
BIL was killed in one of the attacks.

BTW, Andrew, asterisks above are appropriately applied.   ;<)

Wilt




Asterisks or apostrophes?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thanks.  'Talked to Grandson few minutes ago.  'Sad time at work.  His boss'
BIL was killed in one of the attacks.

BTW, Andrew, asterisks above are appropriately applied.   ;<)

Wilt

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Wilt,

I'm glad your grandson is okay, and things are starting to normalize
for the city.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I used
to see in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would rotate the
stories every 30 minutes, so that if you watched more than an hour you
saw the same stuff, over and over again, with minor embellishments.


Every time I'm at a place with any CNN channel on, it's some girl
reading tweets and playing youtube videos.  I don't get the business
model anymore, unless it's "trade on our good name".

Peace,
Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have yet to find a single flaw, Wilton, though not for want of trying.  ;)

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Thanks.  'Talked to Grandson few minutes ago.  'Sad time at work.  His
> boss'
> BIL was killed in one of the attacks.
>
> BTW, Andrew, asterisks above are appropriately applied.   ;<)
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tim Crone via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Tim Crone" <bb...@crone.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>
>
> Wilt,
>>
>> I'm glad your grandson is okay, and things are starting to normalize
>> for the city.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I used
>>> to see in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would rotate the
>>> stories every 30 minutes, so that if you watched more than an hour you
>>> saw the same stuff, over and over again, with minor embellishments.
>>>
>>
>> Every time I'm at a place with any CNN channel on, it's some girl
>> reading tweets and playing youtube videos.  I don't get the business
>> model anymore, unless it's "trade on our good name".
>>
>> Peace,
>> Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yeah, apostrophes, apostrophes!!

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris



On 17/11/2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
I have yet to find a single flaw, Wilton, though not for want of trying. 
;)


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>

wrote:


Thanks.  'Talked to Grandson few minutes ago.  'Sad time at work.  His
boss'
BIL was killed in one of the attacks.

BTW, Andrew, asterisks above are appropriately applied.   ;<)

Wilt




Asterisks or apostrophes?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Still no flaw's.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:26 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, apostrophes, apostrophes!!
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: "Randy Bennell" <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>
>
>
> On 17/11/2015 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> I have yet to find a single flaw, Wilton, though not for want of trying.
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.  'Talked to Grandson few minutes ago.  'Sad time at work.  His
>>>> boss'
>>>> BIL was killed in one of the attacks.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, Andrew, asterisks above are appropriately applied.   ;<)
>>>>
>>>> Wilt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Asterisks or apostrophes?
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy 
was extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently 
"no-go" zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons 
and bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.


--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other 
sources saying different?
-Curt

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Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press reporting vs. "ground truth"?



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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
>From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>   To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
> 
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other 
sources saying different?
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
   
Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
>most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
>Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
>to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
>don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think 
it was before 7AM.


I just heard on something on "of the World" on NPR at the end at 3, some 
VM they had where some guy was going on that war was not the answer, 
that we needed to sit down and talk with them and come to some 
understanding, then the host wistfully announced the end of the show on 
that note.  Talk, like the headchoppers are going to sit down and talk.  
Yeah, dude, you first!  The appalling stupidity of some people is just 
mind-boggling.


--R

On 11/16/15 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I listened to NPR this morning and didn't hear that part. The govt. is 
aggressively rounding up suspects and weapons caches, and bombing ISIS 
camps in Syria.  What's wrong with that?


On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their
mindset for 14 years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning
just couldn't understand why the French and Belgians and whoever
were not concerned about the sensibilities in the "working-class"
neighborhoods, which I think are not particularly related much to
"working" given the amount of free sh..tuff they get.

--R

On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something
like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is
that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
    Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in
"working-class"
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the
residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are
apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of
weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class"
there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting
today. Are other

sources saying different?

-Curt

From: Max Dillon via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
   To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com
<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com
    <mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com>>
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
 Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment
on American press

reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The frogs have shut down the dome centers of hatred.  Smart move. 
Too bad nobody in our goobers mint can figger dat out!


Is the alien and sedation act still in force?   Seems to me we usta 
had some l Aws agin it.



They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I 
think it was before 7AM.


I just heard on something on "of the World" on NPR at the end at 3, 
some VM they had where some guy was going on that war was not the 
answer, that we needed to sit down and talk with them and come to 
some understanding, then the host wistfully announced the end of the 
show on that note.  Talk, like the headchoppers are going to sit 
down and talk.  Yeah, dude, you first!  The appalling stupidity of 
some people is just mind-boggling.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their mindset for 
14 years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning just couldn't 
understand why the French and Belgians and whoever were not concerned 
about the sensibilities in the "working-class" neighborhoods, which I 
think are not particularly related much to "working" given the amount of 
free sh..tuff they get.


--R

On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class"
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other

sources saying different?

-Curt

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Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
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   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
 
Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press

reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I listened to NPR this morning and didn't hear that part. The govt. is
aggressively rounding up suspects and weapons caches, and bombing ISIS
camps in Syria.  What's wrong with that?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I guess you don't listen to NPR then... that has been their mindset for 14
> years 2 months and 4 days.  The guy this morning just couldn't understand
> why the French and Belgians and whoever were not concerned about the
> sensibilities in the "working-class" neighborhoods, which I think are not
> particularly related much to "working" given the amount of free sh..tuff
> they get.
>
> --R
>
> On 11/16/15 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:
>>
>> "The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it
>> will
>> result in rampant islamophobia."
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
>> Thomas via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Rich Thomas
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>
>> NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class"
>> neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy
>> was
>> extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently
>> "no-go"
>> zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."
>> The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
>> bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
>>>
>> sources saying different?
>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>>  Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American
>>> press
>>>
>> reporting vs. "ground truth"?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[clay via Mercedes]

YeaH! that was really interesting.  Maybe that is the only way for peace to be 
had in the Middle East


clay

On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> Does anyone recall the Xfiles episode where Mulder meets a genie and makes a 
> wish for world peace?
>> 
>> Mao writes:
>> 
>>> ‎Give peace a chance.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Didja hear the prez?
Those were his lines.
He sounded quite good, I thought.
mao


He sounded like the complete and utterly vacant mor on he is!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of 
Syrian refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT 
have been Syrian. Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come 
from all over and you can't prevent crazies from doing crazy 
things...

-Curt


Then you don't understand their culture OR their religion at all.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

<<... crazies come from all over and you can't prevent crazies from doing crazy 
things...>>

But:

Most of the "refugees" are not refugees at all but are taking advantage of the 
flow to conceal some other motivation.

Adherents of the caliphate are a special kind of crazy, part of a culture of 
which "crazy" is an integral part. They should not be equated to domestic 
crazies like the Batman movie shooter. They are capable of planning, funding, 
and arming coordinated attacks, and doing so with adequate opsec.

We can prevent many of them from doing their crazy things here.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks, so it matters little whether 
or not the attackers were actually Syrian citizens. They have also revealed 
that they intend to imbed with the "refugees".

While we may have an obligation to relieve the suffering of refugees, our 
government has a greater obligation to protect the homeland and our own 
citizens.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 3:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of Syrian 
refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT have been Syrian. 
Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come from all over and you can't 
prevent crazies from doing crazy things...
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
   
I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will 
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was 
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class." The "working" 
that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and bomb-vest materials 
by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are 
> other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
>From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American 
> press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I used to see 
in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would rotate the stories every 30 
minutes, so that if you watched more than an hour you saw the same stuff, over 
and over again, with minor embellishments.

I once watched it for a whole day when I was stuck in a Sofitel at DeGaulle.  
Only English speaking channel they had. I was so bored I wanted to rip my eyes 
out.

I did enjoy seeing Tom and Jerry in French, though.

Dan

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of differences in news presentations, over ten years ago we had a 
> local radio station that broadcast CNN HLN audio, Robin Meade was big then, 
> and I would listen from about 6:30 a.m. until 7 while driving to work.  Once 
> at work, we'd have a short meeting right after 7, and then I'd have some dead 
> time until 8; flip on the cable tv in the conference room and watch Robin 
> present the same stories from the previous hour.  The slant of the stories 
> would change, from one end of the political spectrum to the other.  Same 
> stories, just different emphasis / details / opinions.
> 
> I'm sure other news stations do the same, they know which demographic watches 
> when, so they try to tell the audience what it wants to hear.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On November 16, 2015 4:07:31 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
>> people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
>> rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
>> incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think
>> 
>> it was before 7AM.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's what I'd like to know.  During 9/11, Italian news (and probably others) 
were way ahead of American news, with more detail.  SWMBO called relatives 
there and started relaying details to me, at work, while I was watching CNN.   
I was getting angry about how much more info was available to that audience.  
Maybe European news agencies simply had more experience reporting on terror, 
and were wide awake?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 16, 2015 12:29:24 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are
>other sources saying different?
>-Curt
>
>  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>   
>Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
>reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
>-- 
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'87 300TD
>'95 E300
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> What's wrong with that?

That irritates the "enemy" more, perchance?
Also, that seems the same as VietNam?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> ...war was not the answer, that we
> needed to sit down and talk with them and come to some understanding...

Didja hear the prez?
Those were his lines.
He sounded quite good, I thought.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Speaking of differences in news presentations, over ten years ago we had a 
local radio station that broadcast CNN HLN audio, Robin Meade was big then, and 
I would listen from about 6:30 a.m. until 7 while driving to work.  Once at 
work, we'd have a short meeting right after 7, and then I'd have some dead time 
until 8; flip on the cable tv in the conference room and watch Robin present 
the same stories from the previous hour.  The slant of the stories would 
change, from one end of the political spectrum to the other.  Same stories, 
just different emphasis / details / opinions.

I'm sure other news stations do the same, they know which demographic watches 
when, so they try to tell the audience what it wants to hear.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 16, 2015 4:07:31 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>They have one of their newest newsreaders over there interviewing 
>people, he asked some guy about offending sensibilities with their 
>rounding up of these a..holes.  He was all perturbed over that, and 
>incredulous they weren't holding a kumbaya party or something.  I think
>
>it was before 7AM.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I find it strange the governors that are calling to end allowing of Syrian 
refugee into the US just because one of the terrorists MIGHT have been Syrian. 
Apparently they didn't notice that crazies come from all over and you can't 
prevent crazies from doing crazy things...
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net> 
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
   
I'm just waiting for the bleeding heart press to say something like:

"The worst thing about this unexpected outbreak of violence is that it will
result in rampant islamophobia."

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

NPR were hand-wringing this morning that the arrests in "working-class" 
neighborhoods might offend the sensitivities of the residents.  The guy was
extremely concerned about that.  These neighborhoods are apparently "no-go"
zones for people who are not the same kind of "working-class."  
The "working" that is going on appears to be stashing lots of weapons and
bomb-vest materials by certain members of the "working class" there.

--R

On 11/16/15 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What Wilton reports is the same as what NPR is reporting today. Are other
sources saying different?
> -Curt
>
>        From: Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>    
> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
reporting vs. "ground truth"?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly wrote:
> It is no wonder the crazies hate the USA if you watch that marxist ... 
> drivel...

I think if we took a look at ourselves there might be a whole bunch of
reasons to hate.
We may have sowed all of our fears.  It might be real informative to
hear foreign point of view regarding many things - we might learn
something.
I just hate the rush to judgement.  Sure, ISIS did it, but who are
they?  I dunno, war these days sounds so caliphate, so apocalyptic,
and it might get there.
Keep your powder dry.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

That's what I'd like to know.  During 9/11, Italian news (and 
probably others) were way ahead of American news, with more detail. 
SWMBO called relatives there and started relaying details to me, at 
work, while I was watching CNN.   I was getting angry about how much 
more info was available to that audience.  Maybe European news 
agencies simply had more experience reporting on terror, and were 
wide awake?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


All the tv networks are just mouthpieces for the ministry of 
propaganda.  Fox, maybe less so, but just about every news broadcast 
I hear a "liberal" bias.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

You never watched the early iteration of CNN International, which I 
used to see in overseas hotels on a regular basis.  They would 
rotate the stories every 30 minutes, so that if you watched more 
than an hour you saw the same stuff, over and over again, with minor 
embellishments.


I once watched it for a whole day when I was stuck in a Sofitel at 
DeGaulle.  Only English speaking channel they had. I was so bored I 
wanted to rip my eyes out.


I did enjoy seeing Tom and Jerry in French, though.

Dan


Ug!   CrapNN A  month in Uganda, no other "merkuns and the only 
thing that was not in indian was the Crap "news" "network"  It is no 
wonder the crazies hate the USA if you watch that marxist propaganda 
drivel over and over, same drivel every half hour!  At least until 
dark (about 7-7:30) I could sit outside and drink a coke or whatever. 
After dark, the gunshots were unnerving.


On the good side, We did get to watch popeye in italian at Metaponto 
(Italy) for a week when everything was locked up for siesta, or 
whatever it is called in Italian.  Popeye was a blast.  the lines 
were in italian, but the songs were in English


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was like 30 minutes late to a meeting in Peru because I was totally entranced 
watching Warner Brothers cartoons in Spanish in my hotel room.

I can only recall worrying about gunshots in Guatemala and Angola.  Neither was 
a pleasant place.

Dan


> On Nov 16, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Ug!   CrapNN A  month in Uganda, no other "merkuns and the only thing 
>> that was not in indian was the Crap "news" "network"  It is no wonder the 
>> crazies hate the USA if you watch that marxist propaganda drivel over and 
>> over, same drivel every half hour!  At least until dark (about 7-7:30) I 
>> could sit outside and drink a coke or whatever. After dark, the gunshots 
>> were unnerving.
> 
> On the good side, We did get to watch popeye in italian at Metaponto (Italy) 
> for a week when everything was locked up for siesta, or whatever it is called 
> in Italian.  Popeye was a blast.  the lines were in italian, but the songs 
> were in English
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[MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open - most 
stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to Starbucks this 
morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going to groc. store in few 
minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We don't keep much on hand.  'Sad 
time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
>most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
>Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
>to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
>don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Hillary! and US Embassy tweeted Fri morning "This evening's spontaneous 
demonstrations by some guys out walking around a result of cultural 
insensitivity to followers of the Prophet (PBUH) by French officials who 
are allowing a retrospective marathon of Jerry Lewis films to be 
presented at a cinema in Paris"


What difference, at this point, does it make?

--R (/s off)

On 11/15/15 1:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false 
alarm, but I can definitely hear the panic outside."


He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.

Wilton

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Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American 
press reporting vs. "ground truth"?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Link?  Otherwise, I call shenanigans.  Not even THEY are that blatant.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hillary! and US Embassy tweeted Fri morning "This evening's spontaneous
> demonstrations by some guys out walking around a result of cultural
> insensitivity to followers of the Prophet (PBUH) by French officials who
> are allowing a retrospective marathon of Jerry Lewis films to be presented
> at a cinema in Paris"
>
> What difference, at this point, does it make?
>
> --R (/s off)
>
>
> On 11/15/15 1:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> 'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false alarm,
>> but I can definitely hear the panic outside."
>>
>> He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: "Max Dillon" <dillonm...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
>>> reporting vs. "ground truth"?
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>>> Charleston SC
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>>> On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>>> Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
>>>> most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
>>>> Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
>>>> to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
>>>> don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false alarm, but 
I can definitely hear the panic outside."


He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.

Wilton

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Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?

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On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

It is irrational exuberance that gets us in trouble.  Be careful


Be sure.  Then be thorough.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> ... ‎

Let peace rain upon our enemies - fine, but have we any determination
of who our enemies are? - if you know, grab your jumpsuit and
parachute and handle it while I wait for definitive answer regarding
enemies.  My suspicion is that our enemy is us.

Peace through superior firepower - exactly the same procedure for me.
I is irrational exuberance that gets us in trouble.  Be careful

Again, give peace a chance, i.e. take a deep breath to examine prior
to jump the gun.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have that first one on my truck

--R

On 11/13/15 8:22 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Mao writes:


‎Give peace a chance.

‎http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ

‎http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg

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[MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Note from Grndson hour or so ago.  His apt is within 3 or 4 blocks of some of 
the attacks.  He heard the police and ambulance sirens, but no shots or 
explosions.  'Went out for a while this afternoon - "Very subdued and quiet for 
a Sat. afternoon en Paris."

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I was outside cutting grass and mulching leaves most of afternoon and knew 
nothing about it 'til I had been inside a few minutes.  Suddenly, my iPhone 
pinged with note from Paris, "In case you're worried, I'm OK."  Called out 
to SWMBO, who had just turned TV on and was just getting the news.


Wilt

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That’s good to hear.  It’s tough when something like this happens and you 
have family nearby.


Dan putting his beret and Galoise in the drawer for a bit


On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
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Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep.  Terrorist attack.  60 or more more dead?

Wilton

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On 13/11/2015 4:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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is something happening in Paris?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Grndson's apt. is about four blocks due north of Notre Dame.  Notre Dame is 
in view nearby out his bedroom window.


Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep.

Wilt

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Wilton writes:

‎Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite->type strikes by F-15 >fighter/bomber 
types is

not going to "take care" of it, >either. Action must be massive,
overwhelming and decisive.


I'm sad to say, the only "massive" military action we are likely to see in 
this day and age, is going to come from Russia, China, or if a Muslim 
group gets nukes...


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It appears some Amish or Tea Party gun nuts have killed 60 or more 
people with bombs and automatic weapons and have a concert hall full of 
people held hostage.


More stringent gun and bomb vest control laws to be put in place soon to 
address these issues, whatever they might be.  More migrants and 
refugees to be taken in and given more benefits to show how much they 
care.  Universities to establish "safe places" where microagressions 
will not be allowed, and white privilege will be diminished.  
Investigations to commence to find out why the attackers do not like 
French people, and how they can reach out better to understand their 
issues.  CAIR issues press release that no one should jump to any 
conclusions.


--R

On 11/13/15 5:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 13/11/2015 4:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite-type strikes by F-15 fighter/bomber types is 
not going to "take care" of it, either.  Action must be massive, 
overwhelming and decisive.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


It appears some Amish or Tea Party gun nuts have killed 60 or more people 
with bombs and automatic weapons and have a concert hall full of people 
held hostage.


More stringent gun and bomb vest control laws to be put in place soon to 
address these issues, whatever they might be.  More migrants and refugees 
to be taken in and given more benefits to show how much they care. 
Universities to establish "safe places" where microagressions will not be 
allowed, and white privilege will be diminished.  Investigations to 
commence to find out why the attackers do not like French people, and how 
they can reach out better to understand their issues.  CAIR issues press 
release that no one should jump to any conclusions.


--R

On 11/13/15 5:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 13/11/2015 4:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s good to hear.  It’s tough when something like this happens and you have 
family nearby.

Dan putting his beret and Galoise in the drawer for a bit


> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.
> 
> Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Wilton writes:

>‎Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite->type strikes by F-15 >fighter/bomber types 
>is 
>not going to "take care" of it, >either. Action must be massive, 
>overwhelming and decisive.

I'm sad to say, the only "massive" military action we are likely to see in this 
day and age, is going to come from Russia, China, or if a Muslim group gets 
nukes...

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Yes! Terrorist attacks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 13/11/2015 4:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>> Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.
>> 
>> Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5

--R


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[MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/11/2015 4:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Note few minutes ago from # 1 grandson in Paris.  He's okay.

Wilt
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RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

He can see “Touchdown Jesus”???

http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/touchdown-jesus-notre-dame.jpg

Oops!  Wrong Notre Dame.

Sorry.




> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Grndson's apt. is about four blocks due north of Notre Dame.  Notre Dame is 
> in view nearby out his bedroom window.
> 
> Wilt
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
> 
> 
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Just checked locations on map.  Grndson's apt. is within 2 to 4 blocks of 3 
of the sites - due N of Notre Dame.

He probably heard some of the activity; 'didn't ax 'im yet.

Wilton

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mao writes:


Give peace a chance.


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg

Rick
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The ONLY thing a bully understands is superior power or force!


The same rule works if you have to deal with an 8 yr old, a 2 tr old 
tyrant a tyrant king or a guy named vlad or hammad.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Undeniable Truth #6
6. Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force.

Sacramento Union, 1988

Those using aggressive force are winning, if only in small bits. 
The only way to make them lose is for the opposition to aggressively 
use force.



I find myself dropping off my daughter at school, gazing at the 
other bumper stickers, and needing one like this...

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On November 13, 2015 8:22:20 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Mao writes:


Give peace a chance.


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg


 >Rick



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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Judy on the PBS Newshour was struggling to understand who might be 
responsible for this.  It was a total mystery to her.  Pinhead professor 
cautioned against jumping to conclusions, could be some right-wing 
nuts.  No mention of the "M" or "I" words, extreme contortions to avoid 
those hate words.  Then an extended interview with an Asian-American 
(the other AA) professor who explained what microagressions were, and 
why they were so insidious and pervasive (hint: white people).  I'm glad 
we have our priorities straight!


We should wait to see what flavor of terrorists could be involved here.

--R

On 11/13/15 6:25 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Just checked locations on map.  Grndson's apt. is within 2 to 4 blocks 
of 3 of the sites - due N of Notre Dame.

He probably heard some of the activity; 'didn't ax 'im yet.

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5 



--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> ...rumspringa.

We need more of that.
Y'all that want decisive action - gotcher dayglo vest and parachute?
You be first.
Someone is pushing buttons here - who?  Who has pushed buttons in the
past?  Guatemala?  Iraq?  VietNam?  Bad guys are always ready to do
blood.  Maybe we can be good guys instead of hyper-vigilant quick to
judge.
Give peace a chance.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very creepy and effective movie...

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Always a good opportunity to re-watch Mars Attacks. I marvel at how far
> ahead of its time it was.
>
>
> https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?ei=UTF-8=mozilla=yhsm-002=mars+attacks
> On Nov 13, 2015 7:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
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> >
> > On November 13, 2015 8:22:20 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >Mao writes:
> > >
> > >>‎Give peace a chance.
> > >
> > >‎
> >
> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ
> > >
> > >‎
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Always a good opportunity to re-watch Mars Attacks. I marvel at how far
ahead of its time it was.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?ei=UTF-8=mozilla=yhsm-002=mars+attacks
On Nov 13, 2015 7:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I find myself dropping off my daughter at school, gazing at the other
> bumper stickers, and needing one like this...
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
>
> On November 13, 2015 8:22:20 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Mao writes:
> >
> >>‎Give peace a chance.
> >
> >‎
> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ
> >
> >‎
> http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Report from earlier today is that it has been a reaction to some obscure 
unflattering Youtube video about Amish shenanigans on rumspringa.  
Administration working hard to get to the producer of the video.


--R

On 11/13/15 7:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

The solution is staring Europe smack in the face.  France has shut its borders 
now.

All the folks fleeing hostilities in the Middle East should be re-routed to 
Bashir Asshats buddy in Asia.  Bring in all manner of older rail carriages to 
the Balkans where the Syrians or other refugees can be loaded up and given one 
way rides to Moscow.  The Turks can gather the trouble makers off the 
Mediterranean/Aegean  coastline and relocate the shipping agents to the Black 
Sea.  Crimea will welcome all these fresh residents.  Gather as many rubber 
boats as needed and block the Bosphorus with freedom searchers.  Bottle up the 
Soviet Fleet a la Greenpeace.  Turks can also scoop the border crossers and 
dump them on the Iranian border.  Hire the Kurd and PPK to keep them walking 
through the Kurdish areas until the travelers are deep in the Persians lap

clay

On Nov 13, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:


Wilton writes:


‎Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite->type strikes by F-15 >fighter/bomber types is
not going to "take care" of it, >either. Action must be massive,
overwhelming and decisive.

I'm sad to say, the only "massive" military action we are likely to see in this 
day and age, is going to come from Russia, China, or if a Muslim group gets nukes...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Mao writes:

>‎Give peace a chance.

‎http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ

‎http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg

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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Saw police and ambulance (medic) activity on grndson's street (only 3 to 4 
blocks long) 'bout 30 min. ago.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


That is crazy.  I hope he stays in and locks down and has plenty of 
Provisions.


--R

On 11/13/15 6:25 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Just checked locations on map.  Grndson's apt. is within 2 to 4 blocks of 
3 of the sites - due N of Notre Dame.

He probably heard some of the activity; 'didn't ax 'im yet.

Wilton

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To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I find myself dropping off my daughter at school, gazing at the other bumper 
stickers, and needing one like this...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 13, 2015 8:22:20 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Mao writes:
>
>>‎Give peace a chance.
>
>‎http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPdXikjISHEaCEdMh2ahyPapJlwhgF75xQ
>
>‎http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-A58Q_4mqAs451nCcsUPDmnO8-wMyMDHOL2xyEUFVjQKxpYRi-Kgi6imJzg
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[clay via Mercedes]

The solution is staring Europe smack in the face.  France has shut its borders 
now.

All the folks fleeing hostilities in the Middle East should be re-routed to 
Bashir Asshats buddy in Asia.  Bring in all manner of older rail carriages to 
the Balkans where the Syrians or other refugees can be loaded up and given one 
way rides to Moscow.  The Turks can gather the trouble makers off the 
Mediterranean/Aegean  coastline and relocate the shipping agents to the Black 
Sea.  Crimea will welcome all these fresh residents.  Gather as many rubber 
boats as needed and block the Bosphorus with freedom searchers.  Bottle up the 
Soviet Fleet a la Greenpeace.  Turks can also scoop the border crossers and 
dump them on the Iranian border.  Hire the Kurd and PPK to keep them walking 
through the Kurdish areas until the travelers are deep in the Persians lap

clay

On Nov 13, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

> Wilton writes:
> 
>> ‎Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite->type strikes by F-15 >fighter/bomber types 
>> is 
>> not going to "take care" of it, >either. Action must be massive, 
>> overwhelming and decisive.
> 
> I'm sad to say, the only "massive" military action we are likely to see in 
> this day and age, is going to come from Russia, China, or if a Muslim group 
> gets nukes...
> 
> Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That is crazy.  I hope he stays in and locks down and has plenty of 
Provisions.


--R

On 11/13/15 6:25 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Just checked locations on map.  Grndson's apt. is within 2 to 4 blocks 
of 3 of the sites - due N of Notre Dame.

He probably heard some of the activity; 'didn't ax 'im yet.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
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To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317776/Machine-gun-fire-heard-central-Paris-police-flood-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html#ixzz3rPlokza5 



--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Does anyone recall the Xfiles episode where Mulder meets a genie and makes a 
wish for world peace?
> 
> Mao writes:
> 
> >‎Give peace a chance.
> 


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[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

"Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too
strong."  Ronald Reagan

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
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> 
> >Mao writes:
> >
> >>Give peace a chance.
> >
> >http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74BJGAVSmuTwDouAqIt1xbPd
> XikjI
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> >Rick
> >Sent from my BlackBerry Z10
> 
> The ONLY thing a bully understands is superior power or force!
> 
> 
> The same rule works if you have to deal with an 8 yr old, a 2 tr old
tyrant a
> tyrant king or a guy named vlad or hammad.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Yup.  In fact, it needs to be a large scale, systematic effort, mainly on
the ground, with Arabic-speaking Muslims doing most of the detailed work .
The so-called "Surge" strategy worked quite well until the new
administration reversed course (in effect, surrendering and retreating).
Considering how thoroughly unreliable the US has been as an ally, I can't
see anyone in the Middle East trusting us now.  So I doubt that strategy
would work now.

> -Original Message-
> From: WILTON via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 6:00 PM
> 
> Little "nuisance" mosquito-bite-type strikes by F-15 fighter/bomber types
is
> not going to "take care" of it, either.  Action must be massive,
overwhelming
> and decisive.
> 
> Wilton
> 



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