Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine Flex fuel
Perseverance in action! Congratulations. I had the plugs changed at the dealer when it was in for something else and still under extended warranty - to avoid having to answer that question myself! (postponing the inevitable). Has anyone successfully changed the plugs on the back bank of a v-6 in a 96-200? Dodge caravan? are 2 of them accessible from underneath? It looks like I can get the one on the driver's side from on top, and maybe the middle one. Thanks to all! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine Flex fuel
Fred and ALL: Fred that was a great call. It appears that the sensor took care of the problem. It stumbled a couple of times when i started it, but then seemed fine after that. I figured the stumbling may have just been some residue from before the sensor was changed. It was a bear of a job! I was unable to get the old sensor to turn in the hole. the lug broke off before the thing turned. then I broke off the plug. then i tried to grab what was left with vice grips. what was sticking out crumbled, but nothing budged. it took me 5 hours of fiddling before I finally got the remains out. It is mounted on the backside of the engine where you can't see it aimed toward the front of the van. I went in with a burr on a dremel, then tried to put a screw in the hole and pull it. The screw got it turning in the hole, but it would not extract. I kept pulling out pieces of plastic with the screw. Then i tried lag screws. Could not get them to stick. Then I tried to rout out all the innards of the sensor with a burr.After I got most of the insides out of the shell, it finally came out. I lubed the new sensor liberally. I am sure that is a no-no, but I don't ever want to spend 6 hours on what should have been a 1 hour job again! The bell housing is an Aluminum alloy, and it oxidized to lock in the old sensor. I love never-seez. you have to remove the air-intake between the air cleaner and the intake manifold/throttle body to get access. It is done from the top. Has anyone successfully changed the plugs on the back bank of a v-6 in a 96-200? Dodge caravan? are 2 of them accessible from underneath? It looks like I can get the one on the driver's side from on top, and maybe the middle one. Thanks to all! At 10:42 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Loren. If 'twer me, I'd go with A NAPA part, I've never had a bad part from them. Should have bought the replacements from them, may not have had to buy more than 1! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 07:12 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Fred, I was not able to find a used sensor. Every 3.3 engine i found had the sensor gone. Worldpac website shows what looks like a universal sensor with 2 ears and a pigtail wire. I bought a new one from NAPA, (Echlin) but given your experience, I'd rather find a used one. Do you know what the bad new ones you bought looked like? The one from NAPA has one ear and has a socket for the wiring harness to plug into. There is NO pigtail. I think i trust it more than the worldpac sensor. My junkyard experience tells me this is not a rare failure! Thanks, hope to have this solved soon. Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine Flex fuel
Two congrats. Harry Fred and ALL: Fred that was a great call. It appears that the sensor took care of the problem. It stumbled a couple of times when i started it, but then seemed fine after that. I figured the stumbling may have just been some residue from before the sensor was changed. It was a bear of a job! I was unable to get the old sensor to turn in the hole. the lug broke off before the thing turned. then I broke off the plug. then i tried to grab what was left with vice grips. what was sticking out crumbled, but nothing budged. it took me 5 hours of fiddling before I finally got the remains out. It is mounted on the backside of the engine where you can't see it aimed toward the front of the van. I went in with a burr on a dremel, then tried to put a screw in the hole and pull it. The screw got it turning in the hole, but it would not extract. I kept pulling out pieces of plastic with the screw. Then i tried lag screws. Could not get them to stick. Then I tried to rout out all the innards of the sensor with a burr.After I got most of the insides out of the shell, it finally came out. I lubed the new sensor liberally. I am sure that is a no-no, but I don't ever want to spend 6 hours on what should have been a 1 hour job again! The bell housing is an Aluminum alloy, and it oxidized to lock in the old sensor. I love never-seez. you have to remove the air-intake between the air cleaner and the intake manifold/throttle body to get access. It is done from the top. Has anyone successfully changed the plugs on the back bank of a v-6 in a 96-200? Dodge caravan? are 2 of them accessible from underneath? It looks like I can get the one on the driver's side from on top, and maybe the middle one. Thanks to all! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine Flex fuel
Loren. Bravo! I'm sure that the Chrysler execs spent the 2 cents they saved on lube on their golf tees. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:02 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote: Fred and ALL: Fred that was a great call. It appears that the sensor took care of the problem. It stumbled a couple of times when i started it, but then seemed fine after that. I figured the stumbling may have just been some residue from before the sensor was changed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
