subject:"\[MBZ\] OT Latest track"

Looks like right along the coast, the eye might go over us in the 
morning some time.


Raining very heavily, winds at ground level not too bad.  I can hear it 
roaring up higher though the trees seem to be holding up so far, but 
strongest winds not yet here.  High tide in an hour or so, I took a peek 
out a little while ago, can't see any water up close, will check again 
in a while.


Uverse UPS battery seems to be powering the modem and wifi so have the 
tubes for now.  Will put some more juice into it with the genny tomorrow.


--FT


On 10/7/16 11:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What's the latest track?

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Is your DSL / AT Uverse still working, or are you on cell phone comms
now?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Electric co shut off pwr around 5, took the substation across the road
offline to minimize damage should it get tidal surge.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

What's the latest track?

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is your DSL / AT Uverse still working, or are you on cell phone comms
> now?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Electric co shut off pwr around 5, took the substation across the road
> > offline to minimize damage should it get tidal surge.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

Is your DSL / AT Uverse still working, or are you on cell phone comms now?

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Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Electric co shut off pwr around 5, took the substation across the road
> offline to minimize damage should it get tidal surge.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Ok.  Stay safe

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 7, 2016 9:35 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Electric co shut off pwr around 5, took the substation across the road
> offline to minimize damage should it get tidal surge. They shut off Kiawah
> and Seabrook a bit earlier. Those 2 are barrier islands and might get some
> significant over wash. I'm not sure of elevation on the substation but it
> is near tidal creek s could get flooded.  So most of johns island without
> power too, they think it could be 3-4 days. I guess it depends on saltwater
> getting in their equipment.
>
> I'm at 9.5ft. High tide at 1AM approx 5.5ft. There isn't actually much
> sustained wind right now so maybe that will minimize surge although a bit
> further south on edisto island it was topping the dunes late this
> afternoon, waves and surge.  We are lucky it is not next weekend with the
> full moon tides.
>
> So far here mostly fairly heavy rain, occasional gusts but not a high
> sustained wind. I guess that will come later.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I'm at 13 feet above sea level, and a few miles inland, so nothing for me
> to worry about that I've seen.
>
> Rich and Floyd and the rest, they are a little lower, might be more of an
> event there.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Surge  forecast for Charleston  looks bad.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Oct 3, 2016 8:39 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> shows this thing coming closer to the coast as a CAT2-3, 105mph+ winds
> > and
> >> LOTS of rain.  Might be a mandatory evacuation from the islands which I
> >> will choose to follow or not.  Gonna get the boards out tomorrow, check
> > the
> >> track on Wed then start prepping. Might have to bail to upstate at some
> >> point.  If I stay I have plenty of beer, food, and shotgun shells and
> > will
> >> get some gas for the genny tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Will check with the binyahs to see what they think before deciding what
> > to
> >> do.  I think I know the answer.
> >>
> >> --
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Electric co shut off pwr around 5, took the substation across the road offline 
to minimize damage should it get tidal surge. They shut off Kiawah and Seabrook 
a bit earlier. Those 2 are barrier islands and might get some significant over 
wash. I'm not sure of elevation on the substation but it is near tidal creek s 
could get flooded.  So most of johns island without power too, they think it 
could be 3-4 days. I guess it depends on saltwater getting in their equipment. 

I'm at 9.5ft. High tide at 1AM approx 5.5ft. There isn't actually much 
sustained wind right now so maybe that will minimize surge although a bit 
further south on edisto island it was topping the dunes late this afternoon, 
waves and surge.  We are lucky it is not next weekend with the full moon tides. 

So far here mostly fairly heavy rain, occasional gusts but not a high sustained 
wind. I guess that will come later. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm at 13 feet above sea level, and a few miles inland, so nothing for me
to worry about that I've seen.

Rich and Floyd and the rest, they are a little lower, might be more of an
event there.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Surge  forecast for Charleston  looks bad.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Oct 3, 2016 8:39 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> shows this thing coming closer to the coast as a CAT2-3, 105mph+ winds
> and
>> LOTS of rain.  Might be a mandatory evacuation from the islands which I
>> will choose to follow or not.  Gonna get the boards out tomorrow, check
> the
>> track on Wed then start prepping. Might have to bail to upstate at some
>> point.  If I stay I have plenty of beer, food, and shotgun shells and
> will
>> get some gas for the genny tomorrow.
>> 
>> Will check with the binyahs to see what they think before deciding what
> to
>> do.  I think I know the answer.
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

Power here in Mount Plastic has flickered a couple times, but still on
now.  We've cooked / eaten / cleaned up, and are pretty much ready for
bed.  Flashlights and candles laid out.  Dishwasher is still running, but
only needs about twenty more minutes or so...

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

I'm at 13 feet above sea level, and a few miles inland, so nothing for me
to worry about that I've seen.

Rich and Floyd and the rest, they are a little lower, might be more of an
event there.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Surge  forecast for Charleston  looks bad.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
> On Oct 3, 2016 8:39 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > shows this thing coming closer to the coast as a CAT2-3, 105mph+ winds
> and
> > LOTS of rain.  Might be a mandatory evacuation from the islands which I
> > will choose to follow or not.  Gonna get the boards out tomorrow, check
> the
> > track on Wed then start prepping. Might have to bail to upstate at some
> > point.  If I stay I have plenty of beer, food, and shotgun shells and
> will
> > get some gas for the genny tomorrow.
> >
> > Will check with the binyahs to see what they think before deciding what
> to
> > do.  I think I know the answer.
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Surge  forecast for Charleston  looks bad.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 3, 2016 8:39 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> shows this thing coming closer to the coast as a CAT2-3, 105mph+ winds and
> LOTS of rain.  Might be a mandatory evacuation from the islands which I
> will choose to follow or not.  Gonna get the boards out tomorrow, check the
> track on Wed then start prepping. Might have to bail to upstate at some
> point.  If I stay I have plenty of beer, food, and shotgun shells and will
> get some gas for the genny tomorrow.
>
> Will check with the binyahs to see what they think before deciding what to
> do.  I think I know the answer.
>
> --
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Looks like Gerry is getting winds of about 30 knots now.  That appears 
to be as bad as it will get there.according to the Windytv website, 
only an inch or tow of rain.


Looks like the track prediction was pretty close.  Now we will see if 
Floyd really does scare it out to sea!   Must be a scary guy!


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2016-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


They all must still have a supply of old snears catalogs!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
October 7, 2016 at 4:48 PM
Interestingly New Englanders don't seem to be too worried about 
stocking up on TP. When we have a storm its always "milk and bread, 
milk and bread!" people that don't even drink milk will buy a couple 
gallons "just in case".

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Interestingly New Englanders don't seem to be too worried about stocking up on 
TP. When we have a storm its always "milk and bread, milk and bread!" people 
that don't even drink milk will buy a couple gallons "just in case".
-Curt

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We have decided to stay, because the latest forecast has Matthew weakening
from a Cat 2 to a Cat 1 during its pass by Chucktown, and it looks like it
will stay offshore, so we'll be on the weaker wind side of the storm.

I'd still like to move a couple cars to a location less likely for a tree
strike, may do that after I take a shower and get cleaned up.  I suspect
we'll loose power later tonight, might as well enjoy a hot shower and run
the dishwasher, clothes washer etc.

Temps are mid 70's, we've got a steady rain falling, and the wind is
starting to pick up a little.

Lots of TP (toilet paper) and water and food, gas for the generator, two
other different ways to cook if needed (butane stoves).  Plenty of canned
food and dry goods if we need to go for a bit with no ability to cook, but
that wouldn't be too fun if that lasts longer than a day or two.

This morning I awoke at 2 a.m. with something painful in my eye, which
turned out to be a little metal flake.  Yesterday afternoon I decided to
attempt to fix up the suspension on the sail boat trailer, which has gotten
really rusty and would be unsafe to tow on the road.  I used the "sawz-all
of death" to cut off the old stuff, and apparently a metal flake was on my
eyelid or somewhere on my face, and moved into my eye during the night.
Somehow it didn't come off in the shower last night, and waited until early
this morning to strike.  I didn't get a lot of sleep with that thing in my
eye, and my wife and I tried to flush it out of find it and get it out
during the night, but failed.  So at about 9 I headed on down to the
nearest hospital emergency room, which was empty, and within about 30
minutes the doc had found it and removed it and gave me some eye ointment
for the conjunctival abrasions (on the the white of my eye).

I stopped at the grocery store on the way home to see if they had
re-stocked the bottled drinking water, and they had a couple pallets right
in the front of the store, along with a pallet of toilet paper.  The
pressure was just too great, I could not buy just water and ignore that
toilet paper, so I came home with a big package of TP and the two girls in
the house are much relieved.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

We have decided to stay, because the latest forecast has Matthew weakening
from a Cat 2 to a Cat 1 during its pass by Chucktown, and it looks like it
will stay offshore, so we'll be on the weaker wind side of the storm.

I'd still like to move a couple cars to a location less likely for a tree
strike, may do that after I take a shower and get cleaned up.  I suspect
we'll loose power later tonight, might as well enjoy a hot shower and run
the dishwasher, clothes washer etc.

Temps are mid 70's, we've got a steady rain falling, and the wind is
starting to pick up a little.

Lots of TP (toilet paper) and water and food, gas for the generator, two
other different ways to cook if needed (butane stoves).  Plenty of canned
food and dry goods if we need to go for a bit with no ability to cook, but
that wouldn't be too fun if that lasts longer than a day or two.

This morning I awoke at 2 a.m. with something painful in my eye, which
turned out to be a little metal flake.  Yesterday afternoon I decided to
attempt to fix up the suspension on the sail boat trailer, which has gotten
really rusty and would be unsafe to tow on the road.  I used the "sawz-all
of death" to cut off the old stuff, and apparently a metal flake was on my
eyelid or somewhere on my face, and moved into my eye during the night.
Somehow it didn't come off in the shower last night, and waited until early
this morning to strike.  I didn't get a lot of sleep with that thing in my
eye, and my wife and I tried to flush it out of find it and get it out
during the night, but failed.  So at about 9 I headed on down to the
nearest hospital emergency room, which was empty, and within about 30
minutes the doc had found it and removed it and gave me some eye ointment
for the conjunctival abrasions (on the the white of my eye).

I stopped at the grocery store on the way home to see if they had
re-stocked the bottled drinking water, and they had a couple pallets right
in the front of the store, along with a pallet of toilet paper.  The
pressure was just too great, I could not buy just water and ignore that
toilet paper, so I came home with a big package of TP and the two girls in
the house are much relieved.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

On the farm we're getting a lot of volunteer pines and spruce in the fields to 
the point where I've stopped planting new, mother nature does a better job for 
free, why would I pay for trees?
So anyway now I spend most of my time either transplanting trees to places we 
do want them or mowing down the trees we don't want, like where they're too 
close together.
What I've found interesting is if you take two trees about 2" diameter a spruce 
and a pine when you mow down the pine you get a big "WHACK" and the tree is 
gone, sliced right off. With a spruce or fir the tree bends down, you drive 
over it with the lawnmower chopping off the branches on that side, then it 
springs back up after you pass. Turn around and go back and you chop the 
branches off the other side. Run over it 4 more times and it MIGHT get cut off. 
Usually once all the branches are gone I leave it, next spring the stick will 
pull out of the ground when I run over it.
And thats why we build houses out of spruce...
-Curt

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Those oaks were there for Hugo, I suspect most will weather this just fine.  
Pine trees are the big danger, they snap off mid trunk.  THAT is a missile 
hazard, but at least they don't travel far.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Amen!  House preps largely compete, we are still thinking about evacuating, but 
I think we're going to stay.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 7, 2016 3:13:04 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>I hope that all of you who are in the path of this storm will stay safe
>and
>reasonably comfortable!
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>Donald
>Snook via Mercedes
>Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 8:34 AM
>To: Curley McLain; Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Donald Snook
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
>
>I think the lucky thing for Florida, GA, SC, and NC is that the upper
>right
>corner of the storm is staying out to sea.  That is the worst and most
>powerful part.  If the storm had turned inland much more, it would have
>been
>MUCH worse.   Im hoping it stays offshore so Charleston and surrounding
>areas don't get hammered. 
>
>Don Snook 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:44 PM
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
>
>Dunno,  They just said on the radio that Matt is the size of TX. 
>Either
>way, not something to mess with.
>
>This one shows the 28' storm surge of Katrina.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kou0HBpX4A
>
>
>
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> October 6, 
>> 2016 at 3:32 PM Somebody told me that Matthew's eye is only twelve 
>> miles wide and that it makes for much less storm surge than 40 mile 
>> wide Katrina.
>>
>> Truth?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Those oaks were there for Hugo, I suspect most will weather this just fine.  
Pine trees are the big danger, they snap off mid trunk.  THAT is a missile 
hazard, but at least they don't travel far.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 7, 2016 3:14:34 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>She works in Spartanburg (about 3.5 hr from here in the upstate), has a
>
>house there, gets back here weekends or I go there.  She was planning
>to 
>come down this weekend but that ain't happening.  I was going to go 
>there next weekend but she will probably come here if she can get here.
> 
>We are pretty much at the end of the road, which is 12-20 miles of
>large 
>live oak tree canopy so if any of those start coming down it could take
>
>awhile to get the road opened.
>
>--R
>
>
>On 10/7/16 3:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 11:30:48 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Then I have to get back home.  Long bike rides.
>> Can your wife not help ferry vehicles?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>   
>>> On 10/7/16 11:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Maybe park some vehicles in the horse barn with the rest of the
>parts?
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>>  oil pressure gauge and
>do
>>  something about the
>failed
>>  hood paint and attend to
>the
>>  headlight switch -- and now I
>>  need to do something
>about the
>>  broken left rear
>trailing arm)
>>   '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the
>BRV,
>>   the Big Red Van)
>>
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>>   '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

She works in Spartanburg (about 3.5 hr from here in the upstate), has a 
house there, gets back here weekends or I go there.  She was planning to 
come down this weekend but that ain't happening.  I was going to go 
there next weekend but she will probably come here if she can get here.  
We are pretty much at the end of the road, which is 12-20 miles of large 
live oak tree canopy so if any of those start coming down it could take 
awhile to get the road opened.


--R


On 10/7/16 3:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 11:30:48 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Then I have to get back home.  Long bike rides.

Can your wife not help ferry vehicles?


Craig
  

On 10/7/16 11:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe park some vehicles in the horse barn with the rest of the parts?

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 broken left rear trailing arm)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

I hope that all of you who are in the path of this storm will stay safe and
reasonably comfortable!

Greg

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I think the lucky thing for Florida, GA, SC, and NC is that the upper right
corner of the storm is staying out to sea.  That is the worst and most
powerful part.  If the storm had turned inland much more, it would have been
MUCH worse.   Im hoping it stays offshore so Charleston and surrounding
areas don't get hammered. 

Don Snook 

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Dunno,  They just said on the radio that Matt is the size of TX.  Either
way, not something to mess with.

This one shows the 28' storm surge of Katrina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kou0HBpX4A

> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> October 6, 
> 2016 at 3:32 PM Somebody told me that Matthew's eye is only twelve 
> miles wide and that it makes for much less storm surge than 40 mile 
> wide Katrina.
>
> Truth?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 11:30:48 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Then I have to get back home.  Long bike rides.

Can your wife not help ferry vehicles?


Craig
 
> On 10/7/16 11:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Maybe park some vehicles in the horse barn with the rest of the parts?
> 
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broken left rear trailing arm)
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 the Big Red Van)

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes

I think the lucky thing for Florida, GA, SC, and NC is that the upper right 
corner of the storm is staying out to sea.  That is the worst and most powerful 
part.  If the storm had turned inland much more, it would have been MUCH worse. 
  Im hoping it stays offshore so Charleston and surrounding areas don't get 
hammered. 

Don Snook 

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Dunno,  They just said on the radio that Matt is the size of TX.  Either way, 
not something to mess with.

This one shows the 28' storm surge of Katrina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kou0HBpX4A



> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> October 6, 
> 2016 at 3:32 PM Somebody told me that Matthew's eye is only twelve 
> miles wide and that it makes for much less storm surge than 40 mile 
> wide Katrina.
>
> Truth?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes

Curley wrote:

This one is pretty far inland:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/08/25/eerie-home-video-shows-couple-ride-out-katrina-05/32346165/

That reminds me of what my father and stepmother experienced in Biloxi. The
house is about 4 miles from the beach, but their neighborhood is right on the
bayou. In fact, the bayou is about 50 yards behind their back yard. I
remember talking to them that morning and he was telling me they had water in
the yard, and then 45 minutes later, the water was up to the deck and then
about an inch from coming in the house. Then, the water rose VERY quickly from
a couple inches to 8 feet. They weren't really prepared. They grabbed a
gallon of water, some chips, a six pack of beer and headed upstairs. They said
they had to wade through the water just to get to the stairs. It was crazy how
fast it came in. Every window on the first floor was busted out and everything
from 8 feet down had to be gutted and replaced. Their cars were floating and
bouncing around in the garage. They have a whole series of photographs taken
from the stairs showing all the furniture floating around. They sai
d an elderly couple across the street (about 2 ft higher in elevation) had to
stand on their kitchen cabinets to keep their heads above water. And the water
was nasty. The pictures show how black and dirty the water was.

They had flood insurance and were able to get started on repairing/rebuilding
pretty quickly after the water receded and the roads were cleared. But, my
father has said everytime a hurricane has been headed for Biloxi that if his
house is flooded again, he is going to collect the insurance money and move to
Wichita!

Don Snook

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Then I have to get back home.  Long bike rides.

--FT


On 10/7/16 11:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe park some vehicles in the horse barn with the rest of the parts?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

You're thinking small scale, he'll be blown to dry land, eventually...
-Curt

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Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 5:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
   
On 06/10/2016 4:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Floyd probably has a lawn chair, 50 weather balloons, and a cylinder of 
> helium like most of us shore dwellers down here.
> If we get stranded by high water we just gas up the balloons and the wind 
> blows us back to dry land.
>

. . . .  or, out to sea.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Maybe park some vehicles in the horse barn with the rest of the parts?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 7, 2016 9:53:16 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>It is very quiet right now, no wind no rain but very tropical.  I went 
>out to get the paper this morning (they delivered it!) and could hear 
>this rumbling which was kinda odd, then I realized it was the surf 
>pounding on the beach a coupla miles away.  Saw one car on the road, 
>apparently leaving (Mercedes Content: it was an ML!).
>
>Been out working, moving and tieing stuff down.  Surf pounding is much 
>louder now.  I might ride my bike over to the beach in a while if it 
>doesn't start raining, though I might get shanghaied if there are any 
>po-po around.  Plus they closed off Keewaw so the road is probably 
>blocked for residents and beach-goers.
>
>Gotta figure out where to put the vehicles so as to minimize tree hits.
> 
>I was thinking to move them to the parking lot down at the shopping
>area 
>but all those cheap crappy buildings will probably start shedding stuff
>
>in the breeze so I might just take my chances with the trees here.
>
>Dragged the genny up onto the porch so it is close by, have about 30gal
>
>of fuel, and plenty for the chainsaw, so should be good if/when the 
>power goes out, at least for awhile then it's pioneer time.
>
>In good news, the barrier island Spit that the Keewaw hedge fund boys 
>want to develop will probably get overwashed and some rural renewal 
>action, which will be good for those of us who want to save it and keep
>
>it wild.  Doing its job, what barrier islands do.
>
>--R
>
>
>On 10/7/16 9:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> It also looks like it might loop back and come at us again early next
>week.
>>
>> Pretty much nothing happening here in Tampa. Some rain bands heading
>our way, but we have summer thunderstorms more powerful than this.
>>
>> Glad to see it probably won’t cause any problems for Floyd and others
>up that way.
>>
>> Watch out for the drones, though.  They’ll be spying on your vast
>estates.
>>
>> Dan wearing his foil hat Man
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm guessing Max, Floyd, Buggered and Rich will be ok.
>>>
>>> Looks like the eye will pass over or very near to the vast estate,
>but the winds look to be 40 to 60 knots by then, so maybe the 4-6 feet
>of water may be accurate.
>>>
>>> The interesting thing is that after tne storm encounters Floyd,
>Buggered and Rich, it turns tail and heads out to sea.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be the encounter with a well armed, red blooded Merkun that
>calms the storm.
>>>
>>> Albore should put that in his pipe and smoke it.
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It is very quiet right now, no wind no rain but very tropical.  I went 
out to get the paper this morning (they delivered it!) and could hear 
this rumbling which was kinda odd, then I realized it was the surf 
pounding on the beach a coupla miles away.  Saw one car on the road, 
apparently leaving (Mercedes Content: it was an ML!).


Been out working, moving and tieing stuff down.  Surf pounding is much 
louder now.  I might ride my bike over to the beach in a while if it 
doesn't start raining, though I might get shanghaied if there are any 
po-po around.  Plus they closed off Keewaw so the road is probably 
blocked for residents and beach-goers.


Gotta figure out where to put the vehicles so as to minimize tree hits.  
I was thinking to move them to the parking lot down at the shopping area 
but all those cheap crappy buildings will probably start shedding stuff 
in the breeze so I might just take my chances with the trees here.


Dragged the genny up onto the porch so it is close by, have about 30gal 
of fuel, and plenty for the chainsaw, so should be good if/when the 
power goes out, at least for awhile then it's pioneer time.


In good news, the barrier island Spit that the Keewaw hedge fund boys 
want to develop will probably get overwashed and some rural renewal 
action, which will be good for those of us who want to save it and keep 
it wild.  Doing its job, what barrier islands do.


--R


On 10/7/16 9:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It also looks like it might loop back and come at us again early next week.

Pretty much nothing happening here in Tampa. Some rain bands heading our way, 
but we have summer thunderstorms more powerful than this.

Glad to see it probably won’t cause any problems for Floyd and others up that 
way.

Watch out for the drones, though.  They’ll be spying on your vast estates.

Dan wearing his foil hat Man




On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm guessing Max, Floyd, Buggered and Rich will be ok.

Looks like the eye will pass over or very near to the vast estate, but the 
winds look to be 40 to 60 knots by then, so maybe the 4-6 feet of water may be 
accurate.

The interesting thing is that after tne storm encounters Floyd, Buggered and 
Rich, it turns tail and heads out to sea.


Must be the encounter with a well armed, red blooded Merkun that calms the 
storm.

Albore should put that in his pipe and smoke it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

It also looks like it might loop back and come at us again early next week.

Pretty much nothing happening here in Tampa. Some rain bands heading our way, 
but we have summer thunderstorms more powerful than this.

Glad to see it probably won’t cause any problems for Floyd and others up that 
way.

Watch out for the drones, though.  They’ll be spying on your vast estates.

Dan wearing his foil hat Man



> On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing Max, Floyd, Buggered and Rich will be ok.
> 
> Looks like the eye will pass over or very near to the vast estate, but the 
> winds look to be 40 to 60 knots by then, so maybe the 4-6 feet of water may 
> be accurate.
> 
> The interesting thing is that after tne storm encounters Floyd, Buggered and 
> Rich, it turns tail and heads out to sea.
> 
> 
> Must be the encounter with a well armed, red blooded Merkun that calms the 
> storm.
> 
> Albore should put that in his pipe and smoke it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


I'm guessing Max, Floyd, Buggered and Rich will be ok.

Looks like the eye will pass over or very near to the vast estate, but 
the winds look to be 40 to 60 knots by then, so maybe the 4-6 feet of 
water may be accurate.


The interesting thing is that after tne storm encounters Floyd, Buggered 
and Rich, it turns tail and heads out to sea.



Must be the encounter with a well armed, red blooded Merkun that calms 
the storm.


Albore should put that in his pipe and smoke it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Apparently, GW did it Certainly Barry or Hillary won't take credit for
causing it.. seems to me the real force of nature is the huge sucking
action happening in Congress that is drawing the storm up the east coast in
onto land..

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Obviously GW did it!
>
> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> October 6, 2016 at 10:34 PM
>> Quick !! Who can we blame it on??? Climate change? Satanic vortex? Act
>> of God? Racism? FEMA?
>>
>> The news media is failing us... so far.. no culprit has been named.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> October 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM
>> WTF!! tt's moving INLAND, not out to sea. That is way spooky.
>>
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Obviously GW did it!


G Mann via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 10:34 PM
Quick !! Who can we blame it on??? Climate change? Satanic vortex? Act
of God? Racism? FEMA?

The news media is failing us... so far.. no culprit has been named.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM
WTF!! tt's moving INLAND, not out to sea. That is way spooky.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Quick !!  Who can we blame it on???   Climate change?  Satanic vortex?  Act
of God? Racism? FEMA?

The news media is failing us... so far.. no culprit has been named.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> WTF!!  tt's moving INLAND, not out to sea.  That is way spooky.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Have you looked at the storm and it's track on http://windytv.com? Push
> > the
> > play button in the lower left corner and watch it move. Then go back and
> > change to watching rain or waves and play it again . . .
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Roger wrote:
> > >
> > > >‎Well, personally I'm worried >about anyone or any country >being able
> > to
> > > "control" climate >change.
> > >
> > > I would suspect the US in some way, form, or fashion is able to control
> > > the weather. They had experimented with cloud seeding and such in the
> > > nineteen fifties.
> > >
> > > ‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
> > >
> > > If you extrapolate technical advancement across sciences, the SR71 came
> > > online in 1964. Designed by Camel smoking engineers, with slide rules,
> > > pocket-protectors, and horned rim glasses. What, pray tell, do they
> have,
> > > and can they do now, some 5 decades later, that we who aren't in the
> > know,
> > > don't know of?
> > >
> > > Rick
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

WTF!!  tt's moving INLAND, not out to sea.  That is way spooky.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Have you looked at the storm and it's track on http://windytv.com? Push
> the
> play button in the lower left corner and watch it move. Then go back and
> change to watching rain or waves and play it again . . .
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Roger wrote:
> >
> > >‎Well, personally I'm worried >about anyone or any country >being able
> to
> > "control" climate >change.
> >
> > I would suspect the US in some way, form, or fashion is able to control
> > the weather. They had experimented with cloud seeding and such in the
> > nineteen fifties.
> >
> > ‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
> >
> > If you extrapolate technical advancement across sciences, the SR71 came
> > online in 1964. Designed by Camel smoking engineers, with slide rules,
> > pocket-protectors, and horned rim glasses. What, pray tell, do they have,
> > and can they do now, some 5 decades later, that we who aren't in the
> know,
> > don't know of?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Have you looked at the storm and it's track on http://windytv.com? Push the
play button in the lower left corner and watch it move. Then go back and
change to watching rain or waves and play it again . . .

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Roger wrote:
>
> >‎Well, personally I'm worried >about anyone or any country >being able to
> "control" climate >change.
>
> I would suspect the US in some way, form, or fashion is able to control
> the weather. They had experimented with cloud seeding and such in the
> nineteen fifties.
>
> ‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
>
> If you extrapolate technical advancement across sciences, the SR71 came
> online in 1964. Designed by Camel smoking engineers, with slide rules,
> pocket-protectors, and horned rim glasses. What, pray tell, do they have,
> and can they do now, some 5 decades later, that we who aren't in the know,
> don't know of?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Roger wrote:

>‎Well, personally I'm worried >about anyone or any country >being able to 
>"control" climate >change.

I would suspect the US in some way, form, or fashion is able to control the 
weather. They had experimented with cloud seeding and such in the nineteen 
fifties. 

‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

If you extrapolate technical advancement across sciences, the SR71 came online 
in 1964. Designed by Camel smoking engineers, with slide rules, 
pocket-protectors, and horned rim glasses. What, pray tell, do they have, and 
can they do now, some 5 decades later, that we who aren't in the know, don't 
know of?

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 06/10/2016 4:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd probably has a lawn chair, 50 weather balloons, and a cylinder of helium 
like most of us shore dwellers down here.
If we get stranded by high water we just gas up the balloons and the wind blows 
us back to dry land.



. . . .  or, out to sea.

RB

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2016-10-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Floyd probably has a lawn chair, 50 weather balloons, and a cylinder of helium 
like most of us shore dwellers down here. 
If we get stranded by high water we just gas up the balloons and the wind blows 
us back to dry land. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Walters 

Curley McLain wrote:

> Got a life jacket?   If the water is up 15-20 ft.
> 
> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > October 6, 2016 at 1:32 PM
> > A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars around 
> > to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down this and that.
> >
> > Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than 
> > predicted yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard over 
> > high tide tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a concern.  I'm 
> > hoping it doesn't get as high back up in the creek and marsh.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

So it wasn't you after all. I'm mildly surprised but also relieved.

On Oct 6, 2016 4:50 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Oh wait, the issue was permanently resolved http://www.postandcourier.com/
> 20161006/161009652/man-killed-after-fleeing-hurricane-evacua
> tion-barricade-had-lengthy-arrest-record
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 10/6/16 4:43 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>
>>
>> Here in the Bible Belt there are a lot of people who still don't believe
>> in evolution.  Right here is a demonstration of evolution in action, if he
>> did not yet have a chance to pass his genes along.  Today's paper said he
>> had numerous criminal histories, so it sorta fits.  D.a. white trash pretty
>> much.
>>
>> The evac is not problematic near as I can tell, mostly because a lot of
>> people are not evaccing.  Kiawah posted on their residents page that
>> everyone had to leave, and if anyone decided not to they should provide
>> their next of kin contact info.
>>
>> A few more boards to put up then start arranging random stuff,--R
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/16 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>>> Floyd/Rich - I hope is this isn't you:
>>>
>>> "Cars packed highways in South Carolina, where officials gave mandatory
>>> evacuation orders for several counties. Tempers apparently flared during
>>> the slow traffic. *A man got out of his truck at a point where vehicles
>>> were being redirected, removed a traffic cone and sped away. Police chased
>>> the man until he stopped on a dead-end road. The man fired at deputies and
>>> police officers, who shot back and wounded him*, Berkeley County Chief
>>> Deputy Mike Cochran told CNN. The man was hospitalized, but his condition
>>> is unknown."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars
>>> around to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down
>>> this and that.
>>>
>>> Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than
>>> predicted yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard
>>> over high tide tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a
>>> concern.  I'm hoping it doesn't get as high back up in the creek
>>> and marsh.
>>>
>>> Reports as possible...
>>>
>>> --R
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2016-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Oh wait, the issue was permanently resolved
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161006/161009652/man-killed-after-fleeing-hurricane-evacuation-barricade-had-lengthy-arrest-record

--FT

On 10/6/16 4:43 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

Here in the Bible Belt there are a lot of people who still don't
believe in evolution. Right here is a demonstration of evolution in
action, if he did not yet have a chance to pass his genes along.
Today's paper said he had numerous criminal histories, so it sorta
fits. D.a. white trash pretty much.

The evac is not problematic near as I can tell, mostly because a lot
of people are not evaccing. Kiawah posted on their residents page
that everyone had to leave, and if anyone decided not to they should
provide their next of kin contact info.

A few more boards to put up then start arranging random stuff,--R

On 10/6/16 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Floyd/Rich - I hope is this isn't you:

"Cars packed highways in South Carolina, where officials gave
mandatory evacuation orders for several counties. Tempers apparently
flared during the slow traffic. *A man got out of his truck at a
point where vehicles were being redirected, removed a traffic cone
and sped away. Police chased the man until he stopped on a dead-end
road. The man fired at deputies and police officers, who shot back
and wounded him*, Berkeley County Chief Deputy Mike Cochran told CNN.
The man was hospitalized, but his condition is unknown."

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:

A few more windows to board up, progressing. Then to move cars
around to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down
this and that.

Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than
predicted yesterday. Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard
over high tide tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a
concern. I'm hoping it doesn't get as high back up in the creek
and marsh.

Reports as possible...

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Here in the Bible Belt there are a lot of people who still don't believe 
in evolution.  Right here is a demonstration of evolution in action, if 
he did not yet have a chance to pass his genes along he probably won't 
for awhile.  Today's paper said he had numerous criminal histories, so 
it sorta fits.  D.a. white trash pretty much.  Surprised the cops did 
not permanently resolve the issues.


The evac is not problematic near as I can tell, mostly because a lot of 
people are not evaccing.  Kiawah posted on their residents page that 
everyone had to leave, and if anyone decided not to they should provide 
their next of kin contact info.


A few more boards to put up then start arranging random stuff, including 
trying to get my tools up a bit higher as if there is a surge the garage 
will probably get flooded.  boo.


--R


On 10/6/16 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Floyd/Rich - I hope is this isn't you:

"Cars packed highways in South Carolina, where officials gave 
mandatory evacuation orders for several counties. Tempers apparently 
flared during the slow traffic. *A man got out of his truck at a point 
where vehicles were being redirected, removed a traffic cone and sped 
away. Police chased the man until he stopped on a dead-end road. The 
man fired at deputies and police officers, who shot back and wounded 
him*, Berkeley County Chief Deputy Mike Cochran told CNN. The man was 
hospitalized, but his condition is unknown."



On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars
around to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down
this and that.

Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than
predicted yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard
over high tide tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a
concern.  I'm hoping it doesn't get as high back up in the creek
and marsh.

Reports as possible...

--R


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Dunno,  They just said on the radio that Matt is the size of TX.  Either 
way, not something to mess with.


This one shows the 28' storm surge of Katrina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kou0HBpX4A




Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 3:32 PM
Somebody told me that Matthew's eye is only twelve miles wide and that 
it makes

for much less storm surge than 40 mile wide Katrina.

Truth?


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2016-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Somebody told me that Matthew's eye is only twelve miles wide and that it makes
for much less storm surge than 40 mile wide Katrina.

Truth?

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Be careful with this one!

Here are some sobering before and after photos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ01Xyl1lkk

http://www.photosfromkatrina.com/page04.htm   There is a small "back" 
and "next" in the upper left corner of the picture.  I could not get the 
links at the bottom to  work.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmysmith/sets/941/

This one is pretty far inland:  
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/08/25/eerie-home-video-shows-couple-ride-out-katrina-05/32346165/


http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/hurricane-katrina/article91583812.html

http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/hurricanes/katrina/photo-comparisons/mainmississippi.html

https://www.wunderground.com/education/Katrinas_surge_part12.asp

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Got a life jacket?   If the water is up 15-20 ft.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 1:32 PM
A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars around 
to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down this and that.


Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than 
predicted yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard over 
high tide tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a concern.  I'm 
hoping it doesn't get as high back up in the creek and marsh.


Reports as possible...



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2016-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Floyd/Rich - I hope is this isn't you:

"Cars packed highways in South Carolina, where officials gave mandatory
evacuation orders for several counties. Tempers apparently flared during
the slow traffic. *A man got out of his truck at a point where vehicles
were being redirected, removed a traffic cone and sped away. Police chased
the man until he stopped on a dead-end road. The man fired at deputies and
police officers, who shot back and wounded him*, Berkeley County Chief
Deputy Mike Cochran told CNN. The man was hospitalized, but his condition
is unknown."

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars around to
> somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down this and that.
>
> Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than predicted
> yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard over high tide
> tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a concern.  I'm hoping it
> doesn't get as high back up in the creek and marsh.
>
> Reports as possible...
>
> --R
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2016-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

A few more windows to board up, progressing.  Then to move cars around 
to somewhere that might not have a tree fall, and tie down this and that.


Latest track shows closer to shore and storm surge higher than predicted 
yesterday.  Ground under the house has 4ft of freeboard over high tide 
tomorrow night and Sat, so that is a bit of a concern.  I'm hoping it 
doesn't get as high back up in the creek and marsh.


Reports as possible...

--R

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Hear Here!   Herr Mann speaks the truth.

The biggest scam ever perpetrated on mankind.

Follow the  money.    into the CCF, into the albore compound, into 
universities preaching the balderdash, etc.  It is about  hidden taxes, 
overt taxes, keeping the economy stagnant, and being able to control the 
sheeple.   Univ of East Anglia and albore are in the middle of the scam.



G Mann via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM
IMHO, "climate change" is the modern version of the drummer who pulled his
wagon into town in the 1800's and promised to "make it rain" ... then
collected "donations from everyone for miles around" to finance his
"special guaranteed method to make it rain" ... Once the money was
collected, he then vaporized into the night, to appear in another town and
work his scam yet again.

"Climate Change" is that scheme on modern steroids, now involving elected
officials, who are no doubt in for a good cut.

Balderdash !!!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:32 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <

rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
October 6, 2016 at 7:32 AM
Well, personally I'm worried about anyone or any country being able to 
"control" climate change. So, in the future, who will control 
rainfall, droughts, snow, storms, etc.? This is a slippery slope to 
get on. I'm content with "mother nature" having control. The whole 
issue of climate change or whatever name seems to be more about 
funneling money to companies owned by friends who will claim to exert 
some control, but never really accomplish anything meaningful. Just my 
thoughts. Hope everyone survives Mathew OK.

Best Wishes that all stay safe,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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2016-10-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Finished boarding up ground floor, and the only two windows I could reach on 
second floor.  Hurricane film is installed on all windows, so boarding up is 
overkill.

Performed operational test on generator, passed.  Probably should change the 
oil in the genny.

Still not planning to EVAC, but making all preparations.  Maybe tomorrow.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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>Get your flood plain maps here:
>
>https://www.oathkeepers.org/hurricane-matthew-get-flood-plain-maps/
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2016-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

IMHO, "climate change" is the modern version of the drummer who pulled his
wagon into town in the 1800's and promised to "make it rain" ... then
collected "donations from everyone for miles around" to finance his
"special guaranteed method to make it rain" ... Once the money was
collected, he then vaporized into the night, to appear in another town and
work his scam yet again.

"Climate Change" is that scheme on modern steroids, now involving elected
officials, who are no doubt in for a good cut.

Balderdash !!!

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, personally I'm worried about anyone or any country being able to
> "control" climate change. So, in the future, who will control rainfall,
> droughts, snow, storms, etc.? This is a slippery slope to get on. I'm
> content with "mother nature" having control. The whole issue of climate
> change or whatever name seems to be more about funneling money to companies
> owned by friends who will claim to exert some control, but never really
> accomplish anything meaningful. Just my thoughts. Hope everyone survives
> Mathew OK.
> Best Wishes that all stay safe,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
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2016-10-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Well, personally I'm worried about anyone or any country being able to 
"control" climate change. So, in the future, who will control rainfall, 
droughts, snow, storms, etc.? This is a slippery slope to get on. I'm content 
with "mother nature" having control. The whole issue of climate change or 
whatever name seems to be more about funneling money to companies owned by 
friends who will claim to exert some control, but never really accomplish 
anything meaningful. Just my thoughts. Hope everyone survives Mathew OK. 
Best Wishes that all stay safe, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Anybody need a 10hp Kohler engined generator with built in 150amp Lincoln
welder?

http://lansing.craigslist.org/for/5744722088.html

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Get your flood plain maps here:

https://www.oathkeepers.org/hurricane-matthew-get-flood-plain-maps/

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2016-10-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


< Clapping >  Good un!


Michael Esh via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 8:56 PM
I guess the only conclusion I come to in regard the purchase of mass 
amounts of toilet paper is massive storms like Matthew "scare 
the shit out of some people".

Hehehe...
Michael E. Esh



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2016-10-05 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes

I guess the only conclusion I come to in regard the purchase of mass amounts of 
toilet paper is massive storms like Matthew "scare the shit out of some 
people".
Hehehe...
Michael E. Esh


> On Oct 5, 2016, at 2:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Logic attack:
> 
> Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
> Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above the
> sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...
> 
> Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
> backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the closet
> full of toilet paper do you?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> yeah, but vanloads?  Closets full?Mindless lemmings.  They vote (J).
>> I can understand a female picking up one package.  but vanloads?  that is
>> nuts.
>> 
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>> October 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I suspect the simple answer is that most folks have no idea of the
>>> quantity in inventory at home, so when faced with a situation where they
>>> may need "emergency" supplies, and are standing in  a store trying to
>>> decide what they should buy, TP comes to mind and they justify it by
>>> thinking that it won't matter if they already have lots of it. It is
>>> relatively cheap and will ultimately be used so it cannot be a bad idea to
>>> make certain one has lots of it.
>>> 
>>> RB
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>>> October 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM
>>> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
>>> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into the
>>> female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP you
>>> can.
>>> 
>>> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
>>> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
>>> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
>>> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP might
>>> be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of TP.   That
>>> was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the snears
>>> catalog or a corn cob worked.
>>> 
>>> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
>>> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with all
>>> of it.
>>> 
>>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>> October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
>>> 
>>> What's with the TP?
>>> I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
>>> When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
>>> the roads
>>> will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
>>> generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
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>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> October 5, 2016 at 7:48 AM
>>> Stocked up on TP and seltzer water (stores were devoid of "flat" water) so
>>> we're going to hunker down and wait it out. Unless we don't.
>>> 
>>> Forecast has improved a bit overnight, looks like the odds of hurricane
>>> force winds are between 10-20% over the next five days, according to NOAA.
>>> Odds of tropical storm force winds are 50-60%. Hurricane arrival pushed
>>> back from Friday evening to Saturday morn.
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, all schools / offices / etc are closed today, including my work
>>> location, so we will probably spend the day (and the next and the next)
>>> prepping for winds and rain, moving some stuff inside and securing the
>>> furniture on the back porch. Good excuse to test run the generator for a
>>> bit, maybe purchase some extension cords. I'm also thinking about getting
>>> a new burner for our gas grill and putting that back into operation, in
>>> case we need to cook during an extended power outage.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Charleston SC
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>>> October 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

Well wherever you answer The Call you gotta deal with the immediate 
consequences.


--R


On 10/5/16 2:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Logic attack:

Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above the
sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...

Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the closet
full of toilet paper do you?



On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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yeah, but vanloads?  Closets full?Mindless lemmings.  They vote (J).
  I can understand a female picking up one package.  but vanloads?  that is
nuts.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

October 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM


I suspect the simple answer is that most folks have no idea of the
quantity in inventory at home, so when faced with a situation where they
may need "emergency" supplies, and are standing in  a store trying to
decide what they should buy, TP comes to mind and they justify it by
thinking that it won't matter if they already have lots of it. It is
relatively cheap and will ultimately be used so it cannot be a bad idea to
make certain one has lots of it.

RB

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Curley McLain 
October 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM
Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into the
female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP you
can.

One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP might
be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of TP.   That
was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the snears
catalog or a corn cob worked.

Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with all
of it.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM

What's with the TP?
I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
the roads
will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.

Mitch.

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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 7:48 AM
Stocked up on TP and seltzer water (stores were devoid of "flat" water) so
we're going to hunker down and wait it out. Unless we don't.

Forecast has improved a bit overnight, looks like the odds of hurricane
force winds are between 10-20% over the next five days, according to NOAA.
Odds of tropical storm force winds are 50-60%. Hurricane arrival pushed
back from Friday evening to Saturday morn.

Meanwhile, all schools / offices / etc are closed today, including my work
location, so we will probably spend the day (and the next and the next)
prepping for winds and rain, moving some stuff inside and securing the
furniture on the back porch. Good excuse to test run the generator for a
bit, maybe purchase some extension cords. I'm also thinking about getting
a new burner for our gas grill and putting that back into operation, in
case we need to cook during an extended power outage.


-
Max
Charleston SC
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Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM
That's why you run from the water and hide from the wind.




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2016-10-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

>
> all are backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does
> the closet

full of toilet paper do you?
>

Got a shovel?  Ever been backwoods camping?  Alternately, if floodwaters
are roaring by your house already...

-- Jim
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2016-10-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

You still use it, you don't wipe your behind with the sawdust...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 3:44 PM
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So if this happens, what will people do with their housesful of unutilized
TP?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 5gal bucket, plastic bag, bucket of sawdust
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/5/16 2:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On 05/10/2016 1:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Logic attack:
>>>
>>> Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
>>> Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above
>>> the
>>> sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...
>>>
>>> Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
>>> backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the
>>> closet
>>> full of toilet paper do you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Simple answer. If you have to go, then you have to go, whether the
>> toilets work or not.
>> I sugest a bucket out in the garden shed may be sufficient in time of
>> crisis, and TP will still be welcome.
>>
>> RB
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> On October 5, 2016 at 5:52 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> I sure like the Subaru/Robin small engines!
> 
> I have not worked with one in half a dozen years or so, so they may
> have changed - but the build quality, easy starting, smooth
> running, quietness of those sure sold me.
> 
> Usually the price reflects the benefit, though.

My 6.5hp 3650 Watt Husky (Home Depot) labeled Chinese Homelite with Subaru
engine started first pull pretty much every time. Home Depot used to sell them
for $499, with frequent specials at $399.
This is what replaced it, but now it looks like that one's discontinued too:
https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/3600-watt-powered-portable-generator

They still have some Honda engined Ridgids at Home Depot. 

My yellow 11hp Robin in the picture once started when I was slowly pulling the
rope looking for top dead center. Strongest magneto ignition I ever saw, usually
you need a battery to get a spark when you aren't even trying to start it. It
was made in the late 1990s, my best guess is it saw about 200 hours of power
failures in the 15 years the original owner had it. I've had a couple of short
outages that I never bothered to use it for, unlike 2012 and 2013, when I had
multi-day outages that got me quite interested in generators. With $4 gas, I was
paying $20 a day to run the 1984 Coleman, and I was running it less than half
the time. 

I probably should have stopped with the free Coleman (dad bought it new and
didn't need it any more) and the $50 plus parts Husky that my next door neighbor
now owns. That Husky could run my dryer (on air, not heat) and my 40" tv for 110
minutes on 60oz of gas. All of my larger generators got 75 minutes or less. I
replaced it with the Robin because it couldn't hold rpm against my 4500W water
heater, and now I'm using propane for hot water and I miss that quiet little
fuel-sipper. I hear the Harbor Freight/Predator in that size is the functional
equal to my old Husky, but I have to wonder if the Predator engine is as durable
as the Robin it's copied from. You can get a Predator for about $300 on a good
sale. 

(it's been my habit to slowly pull engines to TDC, retract the rope and then
pull hard since I broke the 2nd starter rope on my Dad's 1980s 11hp Coleman
generator, they don't kick back if you start from TDC and get two revolutions in
before ignition, it's also a necessary trick with many chain saws if you want
you fingers and the starter to last, but you only get one revolution with a
chain saw)

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2016-10-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes

> Mitch wrote:
> 
> 
> So, I say 'see pic', but forget to include a pic of the $250
> (craigslist asking price) Subaru/Robin generator. If you're
> willing to wait a year, you'll probably be able to find a similar
> deal at least once.

I sure like the Subaru/Robin small engines!

I have not worked with one in half a dozen years or so, so they may
have changed - but the build quality, easy starting, smooth
running, quietness of those sure sold me.

Usually the price reflects the benefit, though.

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The track forecast for Hurricane Matthew has shifted dramatically since
Tuesday, and the storm no longer appears to be a significant threat for the
Mid-Atlantic north of Virginia Beach.

The computer model consensus is that Matthew will hug the Southeast coast
between Thursday night and Saturday before retreating to the east. It poses
a serious threat from the east coast of Florida to near the South
Carolina-North Carolina border.

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>
> So, I say 'see pic', but forget to include a pic of the $250 (craigslist
> asking
> price) Subaru/Robin generator. If you're willing to wait a year, you'll
> probably
> be able to find a similar deal at least once.
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So, I say 'see pic', but forget to include a pic of the $250 (craigslist asking
price) Subaru/Robin generator. If you're willing to wait a year, you'll probably
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I used to search CL every day or two, 3-4 times a year I'd find something I
couldn't pass up, like the $50 like new Husky/Subaru 3650 that needed motor
mounts and an air box, looked like somebody dropped it on the ground from 3-4'
up, or my best find, a $250 RGV6100 Subaru contractor's generator in perfect
condition that had run a house for a few power failures (see pic). 

You can easily find a Subaru powered Coleman/Homelite/storebrand for under $300
for 3500-4000W or $400 for 5kw, they made a bazillion of those things. 

Actual Honda generators tend to have high resale value, but one time I bought a
Wacker 5600 (Brit brushless generator with Honda engine, sold by a company that
specializes in concrete tools) with a broken starter rope for $125, worth about
$2500 new. If it were an 11hp Honda it probably would go for $300 for parts, but
an 11hp industrial unit with Honda engine and a name nobody heard of, nobody
wanted it if they couldn't start it. 

http://lansing.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=generator%20honda|robin|subaru|onan|kohler

One of the more interesting things on CL today:
http://lansing.craigslist.org/for/5791528317.html

> On October 5, 2016 at 1:16 PM Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Talk to Mitch. He seems to be the king of finding old generators on CL for a
> good price.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I've been thinking about picking up a real Honda generator. Figure this
> > storm will drive the lemmings out shopping even as far north as us. Maybe
> > about December I'll watch Craigslist for one cheap. Can already find one
> > barely used for 25% off, I'm thinking when I find one 50% off I'll nab it.
> > -Curt
> > 
> >  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 10:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
> > 
> > Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
> > predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into 
> > the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP 
> > you can.
> > 
> > One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
> > companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
> > double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
> > shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
> > might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
> > TP.  That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.  Before that, the 
> > snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
> > 
> > Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth 
> > of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with 
> > all of it.
> >> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
> >> 
> >> What's with the TP?
> >> I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
> >> When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
> >> the roads
> >> will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
> >> generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
> >> 
> >> Mitch.
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2016-10-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


What part of the use of TP did you not understand?
Surely you did not think anyone was suggesting you use sawdust for that 
purpose?


RB

On 05/10/2016 2:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

So if this happens, what will people do with their housesful of unutilized
TP?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


5gal bucket, plastic bag, bucket of sawdust

--R






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So if this happens, what will people do with their housesful of unutilized
TP?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 5gal bucket, plastic bag, bucket of sawdust
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/5/16 2:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On 05/10/2016 1:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Logic attack:
>>>
>>> Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
>>> Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above
>>> the
>>> sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...
>>>
>>> Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
>>> backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the
>>> closet
>>> full of toilet paper do you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Simple answer. If you have to go, then you have to go, whether the
>> toilets work or not.
>> I sugest a bucket out in the garden shed may be sufficient in time of
>> crisis, and TP will still be welcome.
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5gal bucket, plastic bag, bucket of sawdust

--R


On 10/5/16 2:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 05/10/2016 1:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Logic attack:

Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises 
above the

sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...

Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the 
closet

full of toilet paper do you?





Simple answer. If you have to go, then you have to go, whether the 
toilets work or not.
I sugest a bucket out in the garden shed may be sufficient in time of 
crisis, and TP will still be welcome.


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2016-10-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Better than lime is a supply of wood chips. Put a layer of wood chips in the 
bucket, make your deposit, add chips to cover. When the bucket is full dump it 
in a pile at the edge of the yard making sure it's covered with chips. A year 
after you make your last deposit put the compost on your flowers...
Curt

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  On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   On 05/10/2016 1:41 PM, G Mann via 
Mercedes wrote:
> Logic attack:
>
> Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
> Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above the
> sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...
>
> Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
> backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the closet
> full of toilet paper do you?
>
>
>

Simple answer. If you have to go, then you have to go, whether the 
toilets work or not.
I sugest a bucket out in the garden shed may be sufficient in time of 
crisis, and TP will still be welcome.

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2016-10-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 05/10/2016 1:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Logic attack:

Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above the
sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...

Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the closet
full of toilet paper do you?





Simple answer. If you have to go, then you have to go, whether the 
toilets work or not.
I sugest a bucket out in the garden shed may be sufficient in time of 
crisis, and TP will still be welcome.


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2016-10-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Logic attack:

Large storms cause damage to public infrastructures.. and flooding...
Floods very often cause sewers to backup as the water table rises above the
sewer lines and the result is.. YOUR TOILET BACKS UP...

Question: You live in a typical suburban home with 3 toilets.. all are
backed up and due to flooding.. will NOT flush... What good does the closet
full of toilet paper do you?



On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> yeah, but vanloads?  Closets full?Mindless lemmings.  They vote (J).
>  I can understand a female picking up one package.  but vanloads?  that is
> nuts.
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> October 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM
>>
>>
>> I suspect the simple answer is that most folks have no idea of the
>> quantity in inventory at home, so when faced with a situation where they
>> may need "emergency" supplies, and are standing in  a store trying to
>> decide what they should buy, TP comes to mind and they justify it by
>> thinking that it won't matter if they already have lots of it. It is
>> relatively cheap and will ultimately be used so it cannot be a bad idea to
>> make certain one has lots of it.
>>
>> RB
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>> October 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM
>> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
>> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into the
>> female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP you
>> can.
>>
>> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
>> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
>> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
>> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP might
>> be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of TP.   That
>> was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the snears
>> catalog or a corn cob worked.
>>
>> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
>> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with all
>> of it.
>>
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
>>
>> What's with the TP?
>> I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
>> When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
>> the roads
>> will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
>> generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
>>
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>> October 5, 2016 at 7:48 AM
>> Stocked up on TP and seltzer water (stores were devoid of "flat" water) so
>> we're going to hunker down and wait it out. Unless we don't.
>>
>> Forecast has improved a bit overnight, looks like the odds of hurricane
>> force winds are between 10-20% over the next five days, according to NOAA.
>> Odds of tropical storm force winds are 50-60%. Hurricane arrival pushed
>> back from Friday evening to Saturday morn.
>>
>> Meanwhile, all schools / offices / etc are closed today, including my work
>> location, so we will probably spend the day (and the next and the next)
>> prepping for winds and rain, moving some stuff inside and securing the
>> furniture on the back porch. Good excuse to test run the generator for a
>> bit, maybe purchase some extension cords. I'm also thinking about getting
>> a new burner for our gas grill and putting that back into operation, in
>> case we need to cook during an extended power outage.
>>
>>
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Trust me, we are gonna get whacked. The issue is how bad, not whether.  
I shall report as I can.


I am watching the evac sh*tshow that is going to be peaking soon and I 
would rather sit here out on the deck during the peak of the storm and 
take my chances rather than be in that mess.  They are going to open the 
other lane of I-26 shortly for a reversal, the current lanes are already 
a complete parking lot.  Then I hear that the evac road on the island 
has been closed in the last little while because of some crash by some 
d.a.  Luckily the other road can detour around it, I guess, but that 
just increases the mess.


Food, gas, beer, ammo, I'm good.

--FT


On 10/5/16 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My local weather guru advises that 1) it's premature to evacuate folks
before there is even a posted "watch", and in that regard: 2) Matthew has
recently veered sharply to the east, and may head out to sea instead of
barreling up the coast toward Floyd/Rich and his TP-hoarding ilk.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:


I have an observation in this regard:

While one might think hurricanes are the better of say, a winter storm,
having experienced both I would disagree. Here's why:

A winter storm usually comes up quickly and with minimal warning. When you
know it's coming you might have all of a day or two to prepare at worse.

A hurricane is known for some time, as with Matthew, we've been watching
it churn for almost a week - all without knowing whether or not we will be
at risk.  So the stress starts in early - do I prepare or do I sit back and
wait units it's nearly on top of me?  The last 2-3 days have been a real
roller coaster here, as we don't know if we're going to feel the effects of
it or not - every 3-5 hours when a new NHC forecast comes out we have to
look, and even that isn't a given.  When one of the hurricanes hit the west
coast of Florida in the early 2000s, the course changed enough two hours
before it made landfall to almost completely miss us, where up until that
point we were square it its line of travel.

So with a winter storm you have less warning, but it's more likely to
affect you in many cases. With a hurricane there's all this time of
anticipation leading up to it, but even in the final hours you may end up
not being affected.

Dan

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

There is an inverse proportion between the degree of panic and the

eventual

track of the storm.  In other words, more panic means less effects.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:28:22 -0500
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:


Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into
the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the

TP

you can.

One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP
might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of
TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that,

the

snears catalog or a corn cob worked.

Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with
all of it.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM

What's with the TP?
I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal

rolls).

When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
the roads
will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food

and

generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.

Mitch.


Women want toilet paper more than men. It has to do with their anatomy.
Men make do no matter what the situation:

"Here I sit in punguent vapor.
"Just now looked and there is no paper.
"I'm late, late, late and I cannot linger.
"Look out below, here comes my finger.

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My local weather guru advises that 1) it's premature to evacuate folks
before there is even a posted "watch", and in that regard: 2) Matthew has
recently veered sharply to the east, and may head out to sea instead of
barreling up the coast toward Floyd/Rich and his TP-hoarding ilk.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have an observation in this regard:
>
> While one might think hurricanes are the better of say, a winter storm,
> having experienced both I would disagree. Here's why:
>
> A winter storm usually comes up quickly and with minimal warning. When you
> know it's coming you might have all of a day or two to prepare at worse.
>
> A hurricane is known for some time, as with Matthew, we've been watching
> it churn for almost a week - all without knowing whether or not we will be
> at risk.  So the stress starts in early - do I prepare or do I sit back and
> wait units it's nearly on top of me?  The last 2-3 days have been a real
> roller coaster here, as we don't know if we're going to feel the effects of
> it or not - every 3-5 hours when a new NHC forecast comes out we have to
> look, and even that isn't a given.  When one of the hurricanes hit the west
> coast of Florida in the early 2000s, the course changed enough two hours
> before it made landfall to almost completely miss us, where up until that
> point we were square it its line of travel.
>
> So with a winter storm you have less warning, but it's more likely to
> affect you in many cases. With a hurricane there's all this time of
> anticipation leading up to it, but even in the final hours you may end up
> not being affected.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is an inverse proportion between the degree of panic and the
> eventual
> > track of the storm.  In other words, more panic means less effects.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:28:22 -0500
> >> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
> >>> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into
> >>> the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the
> TP
> >>> you can.
> >>>
> >>> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
> >>> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
> >>> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
> >>> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP
> >>> might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of
> >>> TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that,
> the
> >>> snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
> >>>
> >>> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
> >>> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with
> >>> all of it.
>  Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
> 
>  What's with the TP?
>  I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal
> >> rolls).
>  When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
>  the roads
>  will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food
> >> and
>  generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
> 
>  Mitch.
> >> 
> >> Women want toilet paper more than men. It has to do with their anatomy.
> >> Men make do no matter what the situation:
> >>
> >> "Here I sit in punguent vapor.
> >> "Just now looked and there is no paper.
> >> "I'm late, late, late and I cannot linger.
> >> "Look out below, here comes my finger.
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2016-10-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

yeah, but vanloads?  Closets full?Mindless lemmings.  They vote 
(J).   I can understand a female picking up one package.  but vanloads?  
that is nuts.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM


I suspect the simple answer is that most folks have no idea of the 
quantity in inventory at home, so when faced with a situation where 
they may need "emergency" supplies, and are standing in  a store 
trying to decide what they should buy, TP comes to mind and they 
justify it by thinking that it won't matter if they already have lots 
of it. It is relatively cheap and will ultimately be used so it cannot 
be a bad idea to make certain one has lots of it.


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Curley McLain 
October 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM
Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built 
into the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all 
the TP you can.


One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, 
the snears catalog or a corn cob worked.


Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years 
worth of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they 
do with all of it.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM

What's with the TP?
I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
the roads

will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.

Mitch.

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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 7:48 AM
Stocked up on TP and seltzer water (stores were devoid of "flat" water) so
we're going to hunker down and wait it out. Unless we don't.

Forecast has improved a bit overnight, looks like the odds of hurricane
force winds are between 10-20% over the next five days, according to NOAA.
Odds of tropical storm force winds are 50-60%. Hurricane arrival pushed
back from Friday evening to Saturday morn.

Meanwhile, all schools / offices / etc are closed today, including my work
location, so we will probably spend the day (and the next and the next)
prepping for winds and rain, moving some stuff inside and securing the
furniture on the back porch. Good excuse to test run the generator for a
bit, maybe purchase some extension cords. I'm also thinking about getting
a new burner for our gas grill and putting that back into operation, in
case we need to cook during an extended power outage.


-
Max
Charleston SC
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October 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM
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2016-10-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

I have an observation in this regard:

While one might think hurricanes are the better of say, a winter storm, having 
experienced both I would disagree. Here's why:

A winter storm usually comes up quickly and with minimal warning. When you know 
it's coming you might have all of a day or two to prepare at worse.

A hurricane is known for some time, as with Matthew, we've been watching it 
churn for almost a week - all without knowing whether or not we will be at 
risk.  So the stress starts in early - do I prepare or do I sit back and wait 
units it's nearly on top of me?  The last 2-3 days have been a real roller 
coaster here, as we don't know if we're going to feel the effects of it or not 
- every 3-5 hours when a new NHC forecast comes out we have to look, and even 
that isn't a given.  When one of the hurricanes hit the west coast of Florida 
in the early 2000s, the course changed enough two hours before it made landfall 
to almost completely miss us, where up until that point we were square it its 
line of travel.

So with a winter storm you have less warning, but it's more likely to affect 
you in many cases. With a hurricane there's all this time of anticipation 
leading up to it, but even in the final hours you may end up not being affected.

Dan

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> On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is an inverse proportion between the degree of panic and the eventual
> track of the storm.  In other words, more panic means less effects.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:28:22 -0500
>> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
>>> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into
>>> the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP
>>> you can.
>>> 
>>> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
>>> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
>>> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
>>> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP
>>> might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of
>>> TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the
>>> snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
>>> 
>>> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
>>> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with
>>> all of it.
 Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
 
 What's with the TP?
 I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal
>> rolls).
 When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
 the roads
 will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food
>> and
 generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
 
 Mitch.
>> 
>> Women want toilet paper more than men. It has to do with their anatomy.
>> Men make do no matter what the situation:
>> 
>> "Here I sit in punguent vapor.
>> "Just now looked and there is no paper.
>> "I'm late, late, late and I cannot linger.
>> "Look out below, here comes my finger.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Talk to Mitch. He seems to be the king of finding old generators on CL for a 
good price.

Dan

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> On Oct 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I've been thinking about picking up a real Honda generator. Figure this storm 
> will drive the lemmings out shopping even as far north as us. Maybe about 
> December I'll watch Craigslist for one cheap. Can already find one barely 
> used for 25% off, I'm thinking when I find one 50% off I'll nab it.
> -Curt
> 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
> 
> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into 
> the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP 
> you can.
> 
> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
> might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
> TP.  That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.  Before that, the 
> snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
> 
> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth 
> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with 
> all of it.
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
>> 
>> What's with the TP?
>> I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
>> When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
>> the roads
>> will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
>> generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 05/10/2016 9:28 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Dunno. I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built 
into the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all 
the TP you can.


I suspect the simple answer is that most folks have no idea of the 
quantity in inventory at home, so when faced with a situation where they 
may need "emergency" supplies, and are standing in  a store trying to 
decide what they should buy, TP comes to mind and they justify it by 
thinking that it won't matter if they already have lots of it. It is 
relatively cheap and will ultimately be used so it cannot be a bad idea 
to make certain one has lots of it.


RB

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2016-10-05 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Curley wrote:
> ...Before that, the snears catalog or a corn cob worked.

print media such as snears catalog is nla.  color? - too slick.
corn cob - gmo in my bottom? - lets discuss at banned.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Mitch wrote:
> What's with the TP?

if it gets wet, just hang it out to dry.
good like new.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I've been thinking about picking up a real Honda generator. Figure this storm 
will drive the lemmings out shopping even as far north as us. Maybe about 
December I'll watch Craigslist for one cheap. Can already find one barely used 
for 25% off, I'm thinking when I find one 50% off I'll nab it.
-Curt

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Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into 
the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP 
you can.

One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
TP.  That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.  Before that, the 
snears catalog or a corn cob worked.

Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth 
of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with 
all of it.
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
>
> What's with the TP?
> I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
> When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
> the roads
> will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
> generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
>
> Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

There is an inverse proportion between the degree of panic and the eventual
track of the storm.  In other words, more panic means less effects.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:34 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:28:22 -0500
> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard
> > predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into
> > the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP
> > you can.
> >
> > One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel
> > companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
> > double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
> > shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP
> > might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of
> > TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the
> > snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
> >
> > Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth
> > of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with
> > all of it.
> > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > > October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
> > >
> > > What's with the TP?
> > > I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal
> rolls).
> > > When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid
> > > the roads
> > > will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food
> and
> > > generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
> > >
> > > Mitch.
> 
> Women want toilet paper more than men. It has to do with their anatomy.
> Men make do no matter what the situation:
>
> "Here I sit in punguent vapor.
> "Just now looked and there is no paper.
> "I'm late, late, late and I cannot linger.
> "Look out below, here comes my finger.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:28:22 -0500
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
> predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into 
> the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP 
> you can.
> 
> One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
> companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
> double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
> shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
> might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
> TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the 
> snears catalog or a corn cob worked.
> 
> Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth 
> of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with 
> all of it.
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM
> >
> > What's with the TP?
> > I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
> > When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
> > the roads
> > will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
> > generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.
> >
> > Mitch.

Women want toilet paper more than men. It has to do with their anatomy.
Men make do no matter what the situation:

"Here I sit in punguent vapor.
"Just now looked and there is no paper.
"I'm late, late, late and I cannot linger.
"Look out below, here comes my finger.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

>
> I have no idea what they do with all of it.


Hell, I have no idea what they do with all of it _normally_.  We sure seem
to buy a lot of the stuff...

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

Well I got called an "AZZ wipe" yesterday for pointing out what our
actual hurricane evac route is so maybe that sort of thing is on
peoples' little minds.

I remember my grandparents stocking up on TP and loading up a closet
with it. These were the folks who never had an indoor terlet until my
parents built a new house for them, and even then they would
occasionally go out to the little house, nostalgia or something. When I
was small I remember the catalog and cobs in there but they soon got
some store-bought amenities for it. I think some of that TP was still
in the house 30yr later when I cleaned it out.

Costco yesterday was cleaned out of TP and bottled water, and I got
there before Nimrata got everyone in a panic.

BTW if you want to know what good community agitation is all about, read
this article. My little friend (with some behind the scenes help from
yours truly) has been quite busy. She is taking the hit all by herself
as she figures they will be less likely to try to get even with her
though she is still quite fearful as they have been known to be quite
vengeful.
http://www.postandcourier.com/20161004/161009735/recordings-show-summey-playing-both-sides-on-i-526
Max lives across the street from this scalawag, my good buddy!

BTW the latest track shows the storm a bit further offshore which will
be good for us. I think it is still going to be bad, maybe just not as
bad. The binyahs seem to all be staying while the comyahs are clogging
up the interstate. I have no idea where the hell they are going, and I
would guess most of them don't either. First morning today that I have
noticed the traffic coming FROM the exclusive gated resort communities
down road was heavier than the workers going in. Yesterday I saw the
Jamaica bus going in early to pick up the indentured servants, er, guest
workers, from the hotel so it must be bad!

--FT

On 10/5/16 10:28 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Dunno. I never could figger that out. When there is a big blizzard
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP. It must be built
into the female psyche somehow. If there is a weather threat, buy all
the TP you can.

One possible explanation might be related to the 70s. After the oel
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP
shortage. Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP
might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of
TP. That was the first time I remember hoarding TP. Before that,
the snears catalog or a corn cob worked.

Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years
worth of TP at any major storm prediction. I have no idea what they
do with all of it.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes
October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM

What's with the TP?
I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal
rolls).
When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm
afraid the roads
will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of
food and

generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track

2016-10-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Dunno.  I never could figger that out.  When there is a big blizzard 
predicted, people go out and buy vanloads of TP.  It must be built into 
the female psyche somehow.  If there is a weather threat, buy all the TP 
you can.


One possible explanation might be related to the 70s.  After the oel 
companies successfully created a "oel shortage" and managed to almost 
double the price of Benzin, the paper companies decided to create a TP 
shortage.  Like trained lemmings, as soon as they announced that TP 
might be in short supply, people went out and cleared the shelves of 
TP.   That was the first time I remember hoarding TP.   Before that, the 
snears catalog or a corn cob worked.


Ever since that time, the lemmings will go out and buy 5-10 years worth 
of TP at any major storm prediction.  I have no idea what they do with 
all of it.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM

What's with the TP?
I buy twelve packs of "mega rolls" (supposedly equal to 48 normal rolls).
When I'm down to half a pack I start looking for a sale. If I'm afraid 
the roads

will be closed for a week, I make sure I've got a week's worth of food and
generator gas for the furnace/refrigerator/well pump.

Mitch.


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