[MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dieselhead
Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time 
machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are 
not on the current laptop hard drive?



One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past 
10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the 
isolated files to replace the older files from backup.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but why not 
just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your destination of 
choice using whatever means is necessary?

Dan 

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time 
machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are 
not on the current laptop hard drive?


One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past 
10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the 
isolated files to replace the older files from backup.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dieselhead
The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top 
of new files and lose newer info.


Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and 
whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to 
my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare 
the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the 
drive.



Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but 
why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your 
destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?


Dan

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
not on the current laptop hard drive?


One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the

 isolated files to replace the older files from backup.
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Gotcha.

You will have to pay for it, but it's money well spent:

Super File Synchronizer.

I use it to manage my backups between my machines and my Xserve RAID volumes.

Highly configurable and can be scheduled. I highly recommend it.

Dan


Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top 
of new files and lose newer info.

Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and 
whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to 
my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare 
the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the 
drive.


Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but 
why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your 
destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?

Dan

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
not on the current laptop hard drive?


One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the
  isolated files to replace the older files from backup.
  

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Brian Toscano
Wouldn't it make the most sense to only copy your user directory files?  I
would be cautious against trying to copy OS files that way.  You can
probably rsync your user directory on Time Machine back to your new hard
drive.  Or better still, copy your user directory to a backup location,
then use Time Machine to restore your computer, and restore your user
directory using rsync from the the backup location.  That way you get
exactly what you had, plus any files you created.


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Gotcha.

 You will have to pay for it, but it's money well spent:

 Super File Synchronizer.

 I use it to manage my backups between my machines and my Xserve RAID
 volumes.

 Highly configurable and can be scheduled. I highly recommend it.

 Dan


 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top
 of new files and lose newer info.
 
 Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and
 whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to
 my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare
 the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the
 drive.
 
 
 Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but
 why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your
 destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?
 
 Dan
 
 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
 machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
 not on the current laptop hard drive?
 
 
 One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
 10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the
   isolated files to replace the older files from backup.
   
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, I am only talking about stuff in the documents folder.  Music 
and photos I will just move manually.  nothing new there.  Is rsync a 
built in utility?  I did a search but did not find it.




Wouldn't it make the most sense to only copy your user directory files?  I
would be cautious against trying to copy OS files that way.  You can
probably rsync your user directory on Time Machine back to your new hard
drive.  Or better still, copy your user directory to a backup location,
then use Time Machine to restore your computer, and restore your user
directory using rsync from the the backup location.  That way you get
exactly what you had, plus any files you created.


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Gotcha.

 You will have to pay for it, but it's money well spent:

 Super File Synchronizer.

 I use it to manage my backups between my machines and my Xserve RAID
 volumes.

 Highly configurable and can be scheduled. I highly recommend it.

 Dan


 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top
 of new files and lose newer info.
 
 Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and
 whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to
 my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare
 the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the
 drive.
 
 
 Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but
 why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your
 destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?
 
 Dan
 
 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
 machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
 not on the current laptop hard drive?
 
 
 One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
 10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the
   isolated files to replace the older files from backup.
   
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Brian Toscano
You may need to download rsync (free).  It is a command line program.  What
Dan suggested sounds like a GUI based version of rsync.


You can also rename your existing Documents folder to something like
Documents.tmp and then restore your entire Documents folder from Time
Machine to your local system.  Then just tell Finder to copy Documents.tmp
to Documents.  It will prompt if you want to overwrite files before doing
so.

If it was me, I would backup my local drive, do a total Time Machine
restore, and then sync my local user directory backup to what Time Machine
restored.  That way all your Apps, settings, and files you forgot to
manually sync are preserved.  More work up front, but probably less work
overall.



On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I am only talking about stuff in the documents folder.  Music and
 photos I will just move manually.  nothing new there.  Is rsync a built in
 utility?  I did a search but did not find it.



  Wouldn't it make the most sense to only copy your user directory files?  I
 would be cautious against trying to copy OS files that way.  You can
 probably rsync your user directory on Time Machine back to your new hard
 drive.  Or better still, copy your user directory to a backup location,
 then use Time Machine to restore your computer, and restore your user
 directory using rsync from the the backup location.  That way you get
 exactly what you had, plus any files you created.


 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Gotcha.

  You will have to pay for it, but it's money well spent:

  Super File Synchronizer.

  I use it to manage my backups between my machines and my Xserve RAID
  volumes.

  Highly configurable and can be scheduled. I highly recommend it.

  Dan


  Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

  The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top
  of new files and lose newer info.
  
  Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and
  whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to
  my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare
  the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the
  drive.
  
  
  Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but
  why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your
  destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?
  
  Dan
  
  Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
  machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
  not on the current laptop hard drive?
  
  
  One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
  10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the
isolated files to replace the older files from backup.

  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes:

 Yes, I am only talking about stuff in the documents folder.  Music and
 photos I will just move manually.  nothing new there.  Is rsync a
 built in utility?  I did a search but did not find it.

rsync is a command-line utility.  You would run it from the Terminal.
It has a laundry list of options.  You might want the -u (update
option): 

-u, --update
  This forces rsync to skip any files which exist on the  destina-
  tion  and  have  a  modified  time that is newer than the source
  file.  (If an existing destination file has a modification  time
  equal  to the source file's, it will be updated if the sizes are
  different.)

Maybe as simple as:

  rsync -u /time/machine/source /your/target/dir

...but wise to experiment with a copy first.

Get a cup of coffee and run man rsync in a Terminal window.  You can
pretty much ignore everything having to do with remote copies since both
your source and destination are local.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes:

 Maybe as simple as:

   rsync -u /time/machine/source /your/target/dir

 ...but wise to experiment with a copy first.

Oops actually I think that would be:

   rsync -u /time/machine/source/ /your/target/dir

rsync is sensitive to whether the path ends in a / or not.  If it ends
in a / that basically means contents of so the above would sync the
contents of the directory /time/machine/source to /your/target/dir.

There is a -n option that does a dry run which is good to use until
you are comfortable with what is about to happen.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dieselhead
yeah, I think i was overthinking it.  Your suggestion it simple and 
works.  Thanks.

I am off to start down that road.



Wouldn't it make the most sense to only copy your user directory files?  I
would be cautious against trying to copy OS files that way.  You can
probably rsync your user directory on Time Machine back to your new hard
drive.  Or better still, copy your user directory to a backup location,
then use Time Machine to restore your computer, and restore your user
directory using rsync from the the backup location.  That way you get
exactly what you had, plus any files you created.


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Gotcha.

 You will have to pay for it, but it's money well spent:

 Super File Synchronizer.

 I use it to manage my backups between my machines and my Xserve RAID
 volumes.

 Highly configurable and can be scheduled. I highly recommend it.

 Dan


 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 The main thing is that I don't want to restore old files over the top
 of new files and lose newer info.
 
 Hard drive died, the dealer put in a new drive, installed the OS and
 whatever he could recover.  I was about 10 days before I could get to
 my backed up files.  I was looking for a utility that would compare
 the drive with the backup and give me a sort of what was not on the
 drive.
 
 
 Not sure I totally understand what you are trying to accomplish, but
 why not just restore the files to the machine and copy them to your
 destination of choice using whatever means is necessary?
 
 Dan
 
 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a time
 machine backup and restore the files from the time machine that are
 not on the current laptop hard drive?
 
 
 One other approach I could take is to isolate the files from the past
 10 days or so, then do a full restore.  After the restore, move the
   isolated files to replace the older files from backup.
   
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Craig
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:47:19 -0500 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
wrote:

 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Yes, I am only talking about stuff in the documents folder.  Music and
  photos I will just move manually.  nothing new there.  Is rsync a
  built in utility?  I did a search but did not find it.
 
 rsync is a command-line utility.  You would run it from the Terminal.
 It has a laundry list of options.  You might want the -u (update
 option): 
 
 -u, --update
   This forces rsync to skip any files which exist on the
 destination  and  have  a  modified  time that is newer than the
 source file.  (If an existing destination file has a modification time
   equal to the source file's, it will be updated if the sizes
 are different.)
 
 Maybe as simple as:
 
   rsync -u /time/machine/source /your/target/dir
 
 ...but wise to experiment with a copy first.


rsync -auLKnv# To run without actually doing the work (n) and 
  # see what will actually be done (v).

rsync -auLK  # To do the work.

-a, --archive   archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
-u, --updateskip files that are newer on the receiver
-L, --copy-linkstransform symlink into referent file/dir
-K, --keep-dirlinks treat symlinked dir on receiver as dir
-n, --dry-run   perform a trial run with no changes made
-v, --verbose   increase verbosity

But check the Mac man page, first, to make sure the options are the same.



 ...but wise to experiment with a copy first.

Good idea.


 Get a cup of coffee and run man rsync in a Terminal window.  You can
 pretty much ignore everything having to do with remote copies since both
 your source and destination are local.

Read the man page!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Fmiser
 Dieselhead wrote:

 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a
 time machine backup and restore the files from the time
 machine that are not on the current laptop hard drive?

You simply want all the files that exist in the backup but don't
exist on the system?

Plain old copy, just say no to overwrite.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff

On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:29 PM, Fmiser wrote:

 Dieselhead wrote:
 
 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a
 time machine backup and restore the files from the time
 machine that are not on the current laptop hard drive?
 

Not that I am aware of.

I could have used a similar thing myself while restoring my iMac today.  All I 
needed to do was add or replace files that had been modified since my weekly 
disk image was made, but that's not possible.

It's all or nothin.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Dieselhead

I got er done.

moved all docs on the computer to a file called documents 1. 
restored docs, then copied the docs 1 contents to documents.  Seems 
like I have everything.  I will keep checking.


I even got all my email back except 12 21 11 to 2/25.  I will be 
backing up more often.




On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:29 PM, Fmiser wrote:


 Dieselhead wrote:



 Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in a
 time machine backup and restore the files from the time
 machine that are not on the current laptop hard drive?




Not that I am aware of.

I could have used a similar thing myself while restoring my iMac 
today.  All I needed to do was add or replace files that had been 
modified since my weekly disk image was made, but that's not 
possible.


It's all or nothin.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac time machine

2012-03-10 Thread Fmiser
  Dieselhead wrote:
  
  Is there a utility or synch tool that will compare files in
  a time machine backup and restore the files from the time
  machine that are not on the current laptop hard drive?

 Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 Not that I am aware of.

 I could have used a similar thing myself while restoring my
 iMac today.  All I needed to do was add or replace files that
 had been modified since my weekly disk image was made, but
 that's not possible.

Command line.

I'm presuming you are wanting to retrieve files from the backup
'cause timemachine already only saves the files that have
changed.

The command find can search based on modified time, size,
name, type, etc.  It can also execute a command to act on each
resulting match.

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