Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
We have a local dairy here that sells whole raw milk to the public. I’m sure the laws are different here maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I like how our local dairies sell whole raw milk for “pet consumption”. Only > legal way they can sell the stuff. > > -D > > >> On May 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> Local family dairy. Before the milk industry forced them to co-mingle and >> purchase back milk for home delivery. Good, clean, muddy cows from out in >> the fields. Also just around the time the enviro-weirdness settled in. >> Vegan store at the time was about the size of a one car garage. May >> actually have been one. >> >> clay >> >> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >> >> >> On May 16, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Artisanal, grass fed, free range, antibiotic free ice cream? >>> >>> We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of >>> it for years. It cuts through the hardest ice cream like buttah. All sorts >>> of warnings about not putting it in hot water or the dishwasher. Maybe it >>> would explode? >>> >>> https://tinyurl.com/yd5uoy9e >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I like how our local dairies sell whole raw milk for “pet consumption”. Only legal way they can sell the stuff. -D > On May 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Local family dairy. Before the milk industry forced them to co-mingle and > purchase back milk for home delivery. Good, clean, muddy cows from out in > the fields. Also just around the time the enviro-weirdness settled in. > Vegan store at the time was about the size of a one car garage. May actually > have been one. > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > >> On May 16, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Artisanal, grass fed, free range, antibiotic free ice cream? >> >> We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of >> it for years. It cuts through the hardest ice cream like buttah. All sorts >> of warnings about not putting it in hot water or the dishwasher. Maybe it >> would explode? >> >> https://tinyurl.com/yd5uoy9e > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Local family dairy. Before the milk industry forced them to co-mingle and purchase back milk for home delivery. Good, clean, muddy cows from out in the fields. Also just around the time the enviro-weirdness settled in. Vegan store at the time was about the size of a one car garage. May actually have been one. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 16, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Artisanal, grass fed, free range, antibiotic free ice cream? > > We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of > it for years. It cuts through the hardest ice cream like buttah. All sorts of > warnings about not putting it in hot water or the dishwasher. Maybe it would > explode? > > https://tinyurl.com/yd5uoy9e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Jeopardy: "We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of it for years." Answer: What is Prestone antifreeze On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:31 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Also, propane-powered refrigerators (RV's, etc.) use an > ammonia/water/hydrogen mix > as the refrigerant. The one in my parents' camper failed. An overstuffed > freezer > was thought to be the cause. Apparently pounding on the coils with 1# > hammers > while running down bumpy roads is not good for them... > > Supposedly it was quite smelly! > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Also, propane-powered refrigerators (RV's, etc.) use an ammonia/water/hydrogen mix as the refrigerant. The one in my parents' camper failed. An overstuffed freezer was thought to be the cause. Apparently pounding on the coils with 1# hammers while running down bumpy roads is not good for them... Supposedly it was quite smelly! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Artisanal, grass fed, free range, antibiotic free ice cream? We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of it for years. It cuts through the hardest ice cream like buttah. All sorts of warnings about not putting it in hot water or the dishwasher. Maybe it would explode? https://tinyurl.com/yd5uoy9e -D > On May 15, 2020, at 11:17 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I used to work at a bespoke ice creamery about 40 years ago. NO, not 31 > flavors. I produced five gallon batches of fancy fluff, 20 gallons each day. > When the pretty young thing at the counter had break, I was the scoop guy. > The metal scoops lived in a warm water bath. We were driven out of business > by a place with a made up skandahoovian name. > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > >> On May 14, 2020, at 6:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice >>> cream? OK boomer. ;) >>> >> >> 1) Get metal ice cream scoop. >> 2) Put scoop into hot water a minute or two before scooping. >> 3) Scoop ice cream. If scoop gets cold, reheat in hot water. >> >> -MMM- >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I used to work at a bespoke ice creamery about 40 years ago. NO, not 31 flavors. I produced five gallon batches of fancy fluff, 20 gallons each day. When the pretty young thing at the counter had break, I was the scoop guy. The metal scoops lived in a warm water bath. We were driven out of business by a place with a made up skandahoovian name. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 14, 2020, at 6:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice >> cream? OK boomer. ;) >> > > 1) Get metal ice cream scoop. > 2) Put scoop into hot water a minute or two before scooping. > 3) Scoop ice cream. If scoop gets cold, reheat in hot water. > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I do not know the physics, just that for the past 25 years the stuff lived in the door shelf. New fridge at the time. May coincide with the reduction in size of the container from a REAL half gallon to the current fluff. Also change to a more aerated formulation? The freezer my mother has keeps her boxes of gelato rock solid. She puts her confection in the rear of the main body. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 14, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > What Clay said. Keep it in the door. My freezer actually has/had a > compartment in the door to keep ice cream less cold. > > Rick > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:35:53 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > > > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing > > it. The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend > > a penny without justifying it. > > Probably the reduced heat output of the lights is the biggest thing, > along with turning them off when nobody is nearby. > > Bright lighting is important for merchandise appeal leading to impulse > purchases, but at the same time you'd like to avoid hot lights in a > freezer! Some of the stores here (our local Wal-Mart, for example) have general lighting which is turned on or off depending on how bright the sun coming through the skylights is. The Wal-Mart, as large as it is, controls the lights in relatively small sectors, so if one skylight is blocked by a cloud only the lights in that area are turned on. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I remember those well. Usually on the roof of the store in the back. Architects used to like to put the generators in those equipment rooms, too. Lousy place to work. Next best place was on the side of the loading dock, typically near the bailer used for the waste cardboard. Stop in to do maintenance or repair on their generator set. “Hey, where’s your generator located?” “On the side of the loading dock, next to the bailer.” (Walk back to the loading dock, no generator in sight. Get the stock boys to move the massive pile of broken down boxes waiting to be bailed to find the generator underneath. Safety first, guys!) -D > On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:48:02 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room” >> As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all >> the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a >> ship when you are in there. Each freezer or refrigerator case does not >> have a compressor at the unit like a home freezer does. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:48:02 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room” > As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all > the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a > ship when you are in there. Each freezer or refrigerator case does not > have a compressor at the unit like a home freezer does. That is not how our grocery store in Edgewood, NM, works. There are many units, including some in the middle of the store, which have their own compressors. I guess New Mexico is backwards ... (Actually, I already knew that. :-) ) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The > margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without > justifying it. Probably the reduced heat output of the lights is the biggest thing, along with turning them off when nobody is nearby. Bright lighting is important for merchandise appeal leading to impulse purchases, but at the same time you'd like to avoid hot lights in a freezer! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 12:20:21 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that utilized > ammonia as the refrigerant. I believe they were at -20 f. It is quite > effective as a refrigerant, but for obvious reasons cannot be used in a > residential or automotive setting. But since they are used where people do work, one wonders what would need to be done to use them in a residential setting ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh I know all about grocery store margins. I was in that business for about 7-8 years. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. > The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny > without justifying it. > > My gun cabinet has an LED light in the top that’s operated by a motion > sensor. Only bummer is that the delay is only about 15-20 seconds, so if I’m > taking my time getting something in or out I have to wave my hand to get it > to turn on again… > > -D > >> On May 15, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people >> in the store. >> I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come >> on when I open the door. Works sweet. >> -Curt >> >> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much >> considering there are people walking by all the time. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is >>> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When >>> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. >>> >>> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting? >>> >>> -D >>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep product firmly frozen. Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes > > wrote: > > I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken > thermometer. > Please let us know what you learn and decide on. > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too >> cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical > that >> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F >> will be acceptable to SWMBO. >> >> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or > maybe >> contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : >> >>>On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. >>> >>>So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a >> guessing >>> >>> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic >>> >>> suggestions like you already have gotten? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper >> jelly? >>> >>>No. >>> >>> >>> >>>Craig >>> >>> >>>___ >>> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 08:38:47 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > The highest the temp goes in my kitchen freezer is 7 I believe. It is a > French door with the freezer on bottom. What should the refrigerator > section be set on? 35 - 40F, depending upon how accurately your refrigerator maintains temperatures, how evenly throughout your refrigerator that temperature is maintained, and what is the consequence of occasionally freezing the stuff there. We have Shirley's bottles of insulin in our refrigerator. Our cost with insurance at the beginning of the year (before her prescription coverage reaches the "donut hole") is generally $14/vial. After the "donut hole" it is $126/vial. If we freeze an insurance-provided vial and have to replace it on our own, it will be $358/vial. We keep those on the door and thankfully have not frozen one, though we have frozen the outside of a head of lettuce in the back near the bottom of the refrigerator section. That said, the closer to freezing you keep it, the longer things will last. Egg cartons say to keep them below 45F. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without justifying it. My gun cabinet has an LED light in the top that’s operated by a motion sensor. Only bummer is that the delay is only about 15-20 seconds, so if I’m taking my time getting something in or out I have to wave my hand to get it to turn on again… -D > On May 15, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people > in the store. > I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come > on when I open the door. Works sweet. > -Curt > >On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much > considering there are people walking by all the time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is >> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When >> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. >> >> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting? >> >> -D >> >>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it >>> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large >>> compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. >>> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant >>> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing >>> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep >>> product firmly frozen. >>> >>> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often >>> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. >>> >>> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping >>> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken thermometer. Please let us know what you learn and decide on. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too > cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical that > is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F > will be acceptable to SWMBO. > > I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or maybe > contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. >>> >>> >>> >> >> So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a > guessing >> >> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic >> >> suggestions like you already have gotten? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper > jelly? >>> >>> >>> >> >> No. >> >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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Peter wrote: >-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane >as the second coolant. >We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 >years ago. Big beast. >I'm pretty sure grocery store >freezers are -10 Freon single stage. When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that utilized ammonia as the refrigerant. I believe they were at -20 f. It is quite effective as a refrigerant, but for obvious reasons cannot be used in a residential or automotive setting. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people in the store. I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come on when I open the door. Works sweet. -Curt On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much considering there are people walking by all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is > equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When > you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. > > I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting? > > -D > >> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it >> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large >> compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. >> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant >> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing >> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep >> product firmly frozen. >> >> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often >> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. >> >> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping >> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. >> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken >>> thermometer. >>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on. >>> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical >>> that is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F will be acceptable to SWMBO. I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or >>> maybe contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > >> I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. >> >> >> > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a guessing > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic > > suggestions like you already have gotten? > > > > > > >> Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? >> >> >> > > No. > > > > Craig > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much considering there are people walking by all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is > equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When > you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. > > I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting? > > -D > >> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it >> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large >> compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. >> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant >> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing >> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep >> product firmly frozen. >> >> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often >> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. >> >> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping >> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. >> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken >>> thermometer. >>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on. >>> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical >>> that is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F will be acceptable to SWMBO. I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or >>> maybe contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > >> I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. >> >> >> > >So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a guessing > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic > > suggestions like you already have gotten? > > > > > > >> Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? >> >> >> > >No. > > > >Craig > > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting? -D > On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it > is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large > compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. > Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant > opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing > to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep > product firmly frozen. > > Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often > perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. > > Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping > with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken >> thermometer. >> Please let us know what you learn and decide on. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too >>> cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical >> that >>> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F >>> will be acceptable to SWMBO. >>> >>> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or >> maybe >>> contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. >>> >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : >>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. > > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a >>> guessing contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic suggestions like you already have gotten? > Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper >>> jelly? > > > No. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room” As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a ship when you are in there. Each freezer or refrigerator case does not have a compressor at the unit like a home freezer does. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 11:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it > is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large > compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. > Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant > opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing > to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep > product firmly frozen. > > Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often > perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. > > Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping > with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. > >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken >> thermometer. >> Please let us know what you learn and decide on. >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too >>> cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical >> that >>> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F >>> will be acceptable to SWMBO. >>> >>> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or >> maybe >>> contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. >>> >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : >>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. > > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a >>> guessing contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic suggestions like you already have gotten? > Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper >>> jelly? > > > No. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep product firmly frozen. Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted. Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping with a warmed scoup.. you should be good. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken > thermometer. > Please let us know what you learn and decide on. > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too > > cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical > that > > is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F > > will be acceptable to SWMBO. > > > > I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or > maybe > > contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > > > > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a > > guessing > > > > > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic > > > > > > suggestions like you already have gotten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper > > jelly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane as the second coolant. We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 years ago. Big beast. I'm pretty sure grocery store freezers are -10 Freon single stage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken thermometer. Please let us know what you learn and decide on. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too > cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical that > is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F > will be acceptable to SWMBO. > > I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or maybe > contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a > guessing > > > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic > > > > suggestions like you already have gotten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper > jelly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
The highest the temp goes in my kitchen freezer is 7 I believe. It is a French door with the freezer on bottom. What should the refrigerator section be set on? Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 21:56:21 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts >> longer. I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what >> temp we've got, than maybe bump that up. > > The temperature in your refrigerator's freezer should be 10 to 15 F. > The temperature in your stand-alone freezer should be around -10 F. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too cold. However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical that is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F will be acceptable to SWMBO. I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or maybe contact the maker. Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes : > On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > >I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. > > > > > > > > So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a guessing > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic > > suggestions like you already have gotten? > > > > > > > >Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? > > > > > > > > No. > > > > Craig > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a guessing contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic suggestions like you already have gotten? > Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? No. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
On Thu, 14 May 2020 21:56:21 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts > longer. I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what > temp we've got, than maybe bump that up. The temperature in your refrigerator's freezer should be 10 to 15 F. The temperature in your stand-alone freezer should be around -10 F. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice > cream? OK boomer. ;) > 1) Get metal ice cream scoop. 2) Put scoop into hot water a minute or two before scooping. 3) Scoop ice cream. If scoop gets cold, reheat in hot water. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
I gave it to my 13 yo daughter to research, she came up with a bunch of hogwash about this is unavoidable and caused the by heat / cool cycles as you take it out of the freezer and put it back in. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. > > On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice cream? OK boomer. ;) - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:16 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Let it sit out for 10 -15 minutes before you intend to eat it? > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. > > > > On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > > keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > > > Max Dillon > > > Charleston SC > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts longer. I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what temp we've got, than maybe bump that up. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > -40 is insanely cold. Home freezer should probably be 10-15 degrees. A > deep-freeze for longer-term storage should be below zero. I've never > seen one at -40. The chest freezer in my basement is at -5 right now. > > If ice cream is too hard, set freezer temp higher (warmer, less cold, > however you want to think of it). > > Allan > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes: > > > What's the proper temp? Last time I was at the grocery, I took a look > and > > their ice cream was at -40 deg F. > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Turn your freezer down? > >> > >> Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright > freezer > >> in the garage turns it into a rock. > >> > >> -D > >> > >> > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > >> keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > >> > > >> > Max Dillon > >> > Charleston SC > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And we are off... On 5/14/2020 7:29 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the House from the State of Kolifornia clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. On May 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep the ice cream from getting so hard? Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
-40 is insanely cold. Home freezer should probably be 10-15 degrees. A deep-freeze for longer-term storage should be below zero. I've never seen one at -40. The chest freezer in my basement is at -5 right now. If ice cream is too hard, set freezer temp higher (warmer, less cold, however you want to think of it). Allan Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes: > What's the proper temp? Last time I was at the grocery, I took a look and > their ice cream was at -40 deg F. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Turn your freezer down? >> >> Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright freezer >> in the garage turns it into a rock. >> >> -D >> >> > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I >> keep the ice cream from getting so hard? >> > >> > Max Dillon >> > Charleston SC >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Let it sit out for 10 -15 minutes before you intend to eat it? On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. > > On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep the ice cream from getting so hard? Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What Clay said. Keep it in the door. My freezer actually has/had a compartment in the door to keep ice cream less cold. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:40 PM Max Dillon wrote: > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I can't manage that, so maybe call over the neighbors and friends to consume it all in one go. That will get expensive. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:43 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Eat it faster --- > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > keep > > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What's the proper temp? Last time I was at the grocery, I took a look and their ice cream was at -40 deg F. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Turn your freezer down? > > Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright freezer > in the garage turns it into a rock. > > -D > > > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How does the door make a difference? Our freezer door shelves are too small anyway, so not really an option. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:30 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the > House from the State of Kolifornia > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > On May 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I > keep the ice cream from getting so hard? > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the House from the State of Kolifornia clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Turn your freezer down? Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright freezer in the garage turns it into a rock. -D > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Eat it faster --- On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft
Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep the ice cream from getting so hard? Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
