Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-10 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
About 1/2" diameter.

I found some at AutoZone, marked for "Honda bumper trim" and they looked
about right. It was dark by the time I got home.

Screws I got from Lowes.

Allan


Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> On 2020-10-10 21:40, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>  So I need to get some replacements for that to put
>> the nose of the car back together.
>
>
> It pays to have fasteners on hand.
> What diameter are they?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P413F41
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCJFR1S
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-10 21:40, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

 So I need to get some replacements for that to put
the nose of the car back together.



It pays to have fasteners on hand.
What diameter are they?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P413F41

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCJFR1S

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-10 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Part arrived yesterday and I installed it today.

It seems to be both a filter and a check valve. I suspect more of the
latter.

Anyway haven't driven the car yet. Installation was a big PITA involving
removal of several plastic panels and the front bumper to get
access. These were held in place by plastic push rivets which cracked on
removal, and several screws that had to be drilled out because they were
rusted and seized. So I need to get some replacements for that to put
the nose of the car back together.

Removing the bumper revealed some collision damage. Nothing serious, but
some sheet metal was pushed out of place. I bent it back to basically
where it should have been.

The filter is small so I'm not really expecting this will make a lot of
difference. On the plus side I was finally able to replace the H3 bulb
in the right-hand foglight, which is ridiculously inaccessible for
something that needs routine replacement.

Allan


Allan Streib  writes:

> Dealer didn't have the filter in stock. Waiting for online order delivery.
>
> Allan
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Allen, any update on the filter change?
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Dealer didn't have the filter in stock. Waiting for online order delivery.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Allen, any update on the filter change?
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-05 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Allen, any update on the filter change?
Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Meade Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Are you sure some accessory like the power steering pump or the alternator
> isn't making that whine?  Mechanic's stethoscope would help locate the
> source of the noise.

I don't think so but not 100% ruled out. PS fluid level is good, that
much I know, and the whine doesn't change at all with steering
movements.

> Given the cult following, have you been able to find any forums that
> discuss solutions to this problem, or is this a novel issue?

Yeah some. The common problems seem to be a solenoid (which I've
replaced) and belief in the magic Honda fluid (which is in
use). Honestly I think at 213K miles it may just be at EOL given
whatever likely minimal care it had before my ownership. But changing an
external filter is cheap enough to be worth trying.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> maybe the filter is so dirty that not enough is circulating

That's the problem that Barney (E320) exhibited.  Except that
when cold it worked slightly better.  Whine, and no-go-ness.

Never fully resolved, but will get another look soon once my wife
fully steals the other E320 from me and the X5 is gone.  I had
changed fluid and filter one more time, but never took that crucial
longer road test.  (Accompanied by chase vehicle and tow rope.)
It's been pending for a year and a half now...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Are you sure some accessory like the power steering pump or the alternator
isn't making that whine?  Mechanic's stethoscope would help locate the
source of the noise.

I like the idea of the filter change.

Given the cult following, have you been able to find any forums that
discuss solutions to this problem, or is this a novel issue?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 12:27 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well the problem has started to return -- so if the fluid is magic it
> was used quickly.
>
> I guess there is an inline filter in the line to the cooler. I was told the
> filter was internal to the transmission and not replacable without
> disassembly.
>
> https://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25430-plr-003.html
>
> When I start the car I hear a whine like the transmission pump is
> starved for fluid. That goes away after warm up. But the level is at the
> max mark on the dipstick. So maybe the filter is so dirty that not
> enough is circulating when cold and pressure is too low for good gear
> changes.
>
> Anyway it should be one last cheap thing to try.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Allan Streib  writes:
>
> > Didn't end up driving it yesterday. Drove it about 10 or 15 miles today
> > at a variety of speeds, then did the final drain/fill with the last of
> > the fresh fluid I have on hand. It's about $8.75/qt so I don't want to
> > be too frivolous with it. A drain and fill is about 3.5 quarts.
> >
> > I'm assuming it might need another change or two at a reduced mileage
> > interval from normal, but so far so good.
> >
> > I've heard the stories that if transmission fluid changes have been
> > neglected, then changing the fluid can stir up a lot of sediment. Not
> > sure how true that is, but if that's what happened the last time I
> > changed it, perhaps that explains what is going on.
> >
> > Too bad the filter isn't a FRU.
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-10-01 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well the problem has started to return -- so if the fluid is magic it
was used quickly.

I guess there is an inline filter in the line to the cooler. I was told the
filter was internal to the transmission and not replacable without
disassembly.

https://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25430-plr-003.html

When I start the car I hear a whine like the transmission pump is
starved for fluid. That goes away after warm up. But the level is at the
max mark on the dipstick. So maybe the filter is so dirty that not
enough is circulating when cold and pressure is too low for good gear
changes.

Anyway it should be one last cheap thing to try.

Allan


Allan Streib  writes:

> Didn't end up driving it yesterday. Drove it about 10 or 15 miles today
> at a variety of speeds, then did the final drain/fill with the last of
> the fresh fluid I have on hand. It's about $8.75/qt so I don't want to
> be too frivolous with it. A drain and fill is about 3.5 quarts.
>
> I'm assuming it might need another change or two at a reduced mileage
> interval from normal, but so far so good.
>
> I've heard the stories that if transmission fluid changes have been
> neglected, then changing the fluid can stir up a lot of sediment. Not
> sure how true that is, but if that's what happened the last time I
> changed it, perhaps that explains what is going on.
>
> Too bad the filter isn't a FRU.
>
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Didn't end up driving it yesterday. Drove it about 10 or 15 miles today
at a variety of speeds, then did the final drain/fill with the last of
the fresh fluid I have on hand. It's about $8.75/qt so I don't want to
be too frivolous with it. A drain and fill is about 3.5 quarts.

I'm assuming it might need another change or two at a reduced mileage
interval from normal, but so far so good.

I've heard the stories that if transmission fluid changes have been
neglected, then changing the fluid can stir up a lot of sediment. Not
sure how true that is, but if that's what happened the last time I
changed it, perhaps that explains what is going on.

Too bad the filter isn't a FRU.

Allan


Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> That does sound good!  Any update?
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
>
>> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
>> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
>> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
>> 
>> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
>> the label.
>> 
>> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
>> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
>> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
>> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
>> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
>> 
>> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
>> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
>> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
>> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
>> 
>> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
>> hopeful.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The one thing I do not like about the car is that it has a ridiculously
thick A pillar in combination with a minimally curved windshield, which
creates a blind spot wide enough to completely obscure a car or
pedestrian. I have to actively look around it by leaning to the left or
right. Had a couple of close calls before I got used to it.

Allan


Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Very true, I used to work with one of those devotees.  Both he and his wife 
> drove them.  Best Appliance Ever!
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Sep 28, 2020 4:22:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :
>
>> The Element has a dedicated community of weirdos that love them and fight to 
>> keep them on the road. Find one of those folks and fob it off while it 
>> works, before it breaks...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020, 2:55:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I probably will keep it if this resolves the problem. Nobody's really
>> crazy about the car but it does have a very large and configurable
>> interior rear-seat/cargo area, the side doors open barn-style so getting
>> stuff in and out is a breeze, and it is all-wheel drive which is useful
>> in the winter in my semi-rural neighborhood.
>> 
>> It's paid for, titled, registered, insured, etc. Inertia argues for
>> keeping it if it works.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> He needs to sell it while it’s working well if he’s not planning on keeping 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That does sound good!  Any update?
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 
 Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
 
> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
> 
> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
> the label.
> 
> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
> 
> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
> 
> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
> hopeful.
> 
> Allan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Very true, I used to work with one of those devotees.  Both he and his wife 
drove them.  Best Appliance Ever!
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sep 28, 2020 4:22:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :

> The Element has a dedicated community of weirdos that love them and fight to 
> keep them on the road. Find one of those folks and fob it off while it works, 
> before it breaks...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, September 28, 2020, 2:55:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I probably will keep it if this resolves the problem. Nobody's really
> crazy about the car but it does have a very large and configurable
> interior rear-seat/cargo area, the side doors open barn-style so getting
> stuff in and out is a breeze, and it is all-wheel drive which is useful
> in the winter in my semi-rural neighborhood.
> 
> It's paid for, titled, registered, insured, etc. Inertia argues for
> keeping it if it works.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> He needs to sell it while it’s working well if he’s not planning on keeping 
>> it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That does sound good!  Any update?
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
>>> 
 Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
 the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
 it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
 
 Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
 the label.
 
 Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
 drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
 of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
 properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
 again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
 
 Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
 up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
 still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
 tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
 
 Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
 hopeful.
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 The Element has a dedicated community of weirdos that love them and fight to 
keep them on the road. Find one of those folks and fob it off while it works, 
before it breaks...


-Curt

On Monday, September 28, 2020, 2:55:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I probably will keep it if this resolves the problem. Nobody's really
crazy about the car but it does have a very large and configurable
interior rear-seat/cargo area, the side doors open barn-style so getting
stuff in and out is a breeze, and it is all-wheel drive which is useful
in the winter in my semi-rural neighborhood.

It's paid for, titled, registered, insured, etc. Inertia argues for
keeping it if it works.

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> He needs to sell it while it’s working well if he’s not planning on keeping 
> it.
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That does sound good!  Any update?
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
>>> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
>>> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
>>> 
>>> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
>>> the label.
>>> 
>>> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
>>> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
>>> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
>>> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
>>> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
>>> 
>>> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
>>> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
>>> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
>>> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
>>> 
>>> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
>>> hopeful.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I probably will keep it if this resolves the problem. Nobody's really
crazy about the car but it does have a very large and configurable
interior rear-seat/cargo area, the side doors open barn-style so getting
stuff in and out is a breeze, and it is all-wheel drive which is useful
in the winter in my semi-rural neighborhood.

It's paid for, titled, registered, insured, etc. Inertia argues for
keeping it if it works.

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> He needs to sell it while it’s working well if he’s not planning on keeping 
> it.
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That does sound good!  Any update?
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
>>> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
>>> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
>>> 
>>> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
>>> the label.
>>> 
>>> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
>>> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
>>> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
>>> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
>>> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
>>> 
>>> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
>>> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
>>> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
>>> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
>>> 
>>> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
>>> hopeful.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If your 5 or 7 speed starts out in 2nd and stays in 2nd, you're in limp 
home mode due to an electrical fault.


Most common reasons for 722.6 5 speed are failed conductor plate 
($100-200 plus removing the valve body) or connector ($10-20 plus 
getting messy). Either one probably requires a computer reset to get it 
out of limp mode.


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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I don't know about conductor plate in an 06, that's a 722.7 trans?  I 
have changed a couple in the 722.6 transmission.  That is a common 
problem.  You should be able to see codes for the solenoids if it is 
going bad.  A filter and ATF change couldn't hurt (get it out of the 
lines and torque converter too)


--FT

On 9/28/20 9:54 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
That makes me think that changing mt ATF might fix my 06 E350.  Last 
last year, I reported the AT would not change from Sport mode to 
Standard Mode - even the indicators nest to the Odometer went blank  - 
I replaced the battery with one having specs like MB recommends - the 
AT Mode came alive again, along with some optional equipment like CC!


Now, I still don't get a up-shift when starting from a stop - perhaps 
changing my ATF will fix the 'lack of a upshift' problem? Any 
thoughts?  I'm thinking about changing the Conductor Plate at the same 
time.  Evidently they fail and can be a source of problems.


Comments?

Thanks,
Larry 06 E350AWD
159xxx Miles



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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That makes me think that changing mt ATF might fix my 06 E350.  Last 
last year, I reported the AT would not change from Sport mode to 
Standard Mode - even the indicators nest to the Odometer went blank  - I 
replaced the battery with one having specs like MB recommends - the AT 
Mode came alive again, along with some optional equipment like CC!


Now, I still don't get a up-shift when starting from a stop - perhaps 
changing my ATF will fix the 'lack of a upshift' problem?  Any 
thoughts?  I'm thinking about changing the Conductor Plate at the same 
time.  Evidently they fail and can be a source of problems.


Comments?

Thanks,
Larry 06 E350AWD
159xxx Miles

On 9/25/2020 9:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.

Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
the label.

Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.

Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.

Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
hopeful.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He needs to sell it while it’s working well if he’s not planning on keeping it.

-D

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That does sound good!  Any update?
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
> 
>> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
>> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
>> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
>> 
>> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
>> the label.
>> 
>> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
>> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
>> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
>> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
>> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
>> 
>> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
>> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
>> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
>> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
>> 
>> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
>> hopeful.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That does sound good!  Any update?
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sep 25, 2020 9:38:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :

> Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
> the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
> it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.
> 
> Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
> the label.
> 
> Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
> drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
> of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
> properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
> again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.
> 
> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
> 
> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
> hopeful.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:37:50 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
> up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
> still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
> tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.
> 
> Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
> hopeful.

Congratulations!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-25 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
There's something to be said for using the correct fluids in vehicles.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.

Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
the label.

Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.

Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.

Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
hopeful.

Allan

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[MBZ] OT maybe Honda transmission fluid is magic

2020-09-25 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Not expecting much, I decided I'd try changing the transmission fluid on
the Element that won't stay in gear. My alternative was to try selling
it as-is and probably getting little more than salvage value for it.

Last time I changed it, I used Castrol fluid that said "for Honda" on
the label.

Fluid was black when I drained it. Filled with genuine Honda fluid,
drove it around until it was warm. Drove better, but still dropped out
of gear a few times (it seems to just drop into neutral instead of
properly shifting to the next gear). Did the drain/fill again. Fluid was
again black. It was dark by then so I called it a night.

Today, drove it around the neighborhood for a while to warm it
up. Shifted perfectly. Drained the fluid again, was somewhat dark but
still transparent and red. Filled again, will drive it some more
tomorrow. I have enough fluid for one more drain/fill.

Not confident yet that this is a long term fix but so far it's looking
hopeful.

Allan

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