[MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Randy Bennell

Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was 
repaired and died again.

The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a 
better camera or just bells and whistles?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Many of the compact digital cameras made these days take excellent HD video.
I have a few years old Panasonic Lumix that takes 720P video.  Some of the
newer ones take even higher resolution.  IMO dedicated video cameras for
amateurs are obsolete.

Greg

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Bennell
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Subject: [MBZ] OT video cameras

Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was
repaired and died again.
The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a
better camera or just bells and whistles?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Pretty much anything will do the job today. For short videos even a still 
camera will get you there, its biggest problem will be the amount (duration) 
you can record.

One tip is to ignore digital zoom ratings, digital zoom always sucks.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:38:55 -0600
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Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was 
repaired and died again.
The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a 
better camera or just bells and whistles?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Michael Canfield
The compact cameras take ok video.  They are still not a good video camera
if that is what you want/need.  There are compromises either way.  A video
camera will take decent stills but not as good as a dedicated still camera
and vice versa.

Mike
On Dec 6, 2012 2:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

Many of the compact digital cameras made these days take excellent HD video.
I have a few years old Panasonic Lumix that takes 720P video.  Some of the
newer ones take even higher resolution.  IMO dedicated video cameras for
amateurs are obsolete.

Greg

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Bennell
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:39 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT video cameras

Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was
repaired and died again.
The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a
better camera or just bells and whistles?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Here is an example of ok video taken with a Panasonic Lumix GH1 compact
camera:

http://philipbloom.net/film/kauai-sunset-lumix-gh1/

You be the judge whether this quality would suit your needs.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

The compact cameras take ok video.  They are still not a good video camera
if that is what you want/need.  There are compromises either way.  A video
camera will take decent stills but not as good as a dedicated still camera
and vice versa.

Mike
On Dec 6, 2012 2:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

Many of the compact digital cameras made these days take excellent HD video.
I have a few years old Panasonic Lumix that takes 720P video.  Some of the
newer ones take even higher resolution.  IMO dedicated video cameras for
amateurs are obsolete.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Bennell
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT video cameras

Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was
repaired and died again.
The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a
better camera or just bells and whistles?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Randy Bennell
I pretty much guessed that the reason why  there are fewer video cameras 
advertised in the flyers lately is that the basic digital cameras are 
able to do something about as good.

My wife has a decent Fuji camera that will do reasonable video.

However, I sort of want to get a dedicated one anyway. Call me old 
fashioned maybe.


Randy

On 06/12/2012 2:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Pretty much anything will do the job today. For short videos even a still 
camera will get you there, its biggest problem will be the amount (duration) 
you can record.

One tip is to ignore digital zoom ratings, digital zoom always sucks.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:38:55 -0600
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT video cameras
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Anyone out there with expertise or at least recent experience?

We have had 2 Canon video cameras over the years. The first died, was
repaired and died again.
The second still works but is the old tape style and certainly not HD.

Prices are much much less than we paid for either of the earlier ones.

I have been thinking I might like to get a new one.

Any suggestions. Don't want to spend a fortune but will more $ get me a
better camera or just bells and whistles?

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Dan Penoff
I still have a standard definition Panasonic 3CCD mini DV video camera that 
does a fantastic job.  I used it a lot when I was at the university producing 
videos for my supervising professor.  It's a real workhorse and works well, 
especially when I pair it with my RODE shotgun mike.

I have considered selling it, but it has almost no value in the resale market 
due to the cheap HD cameras that are all over the place.  While it doesn't do 
HD I'm convinced that the 3CCD feature makes the picture quality superior to 
most HD cameras on the market today.

Dan


On Dec 6, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

 I pretty much guessed that the reason why  there are fewer video cameras 
 advertised in the flyers lately is that the basic digital cameras are able to 
 do something about as good.
 My wife has a decent Fuji camera that will do reasonable video.
 
 However, I sort of want to get a dedicated one anyway. Call me old fashioned 
 maybe.
 
 Randy
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Sure I can understand that, I have 4 semi-pro units, of course I'm a semi-pro...

I like using tape, tapes are easy to store and give an easy archive solution. I 
don't particularly like spinning disk technology but it does seem to be 
adequately tough. A look at Amazon shows pretty much zero tape format cameras 
anymore. Gads! A look at Profeel shows that Sony has left the prosumer video 
market completely. How things have changed. I bought my last camera (a Sony HDV 
tape model) in 2004.

Anyway go to BestBuy or whatever you've got up there and feel the cameras, 
theres no substitute for a camera that feels good in your hands.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:34:12 -0600
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
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I pretty much guessed that the reason why  there are fewer video cameras 
advertised in the flyers lately is that the basic digital cameras are 
able to do something about as good.
My wife has a decent Fuji camera that will do reasonable video.

However, I sort of want to get a dedicated one anyway. Call me old 
fashioned maybe.

Randy

On 06/12/2012 2:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Pretty much anything will do the job today. For short videos even a still 
 camera will get you there, its biggest problem will be the amount (duration) 
 you can record.

 One tip is to ignore digital zoom ratings, digital zoom always sucks.

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT video cameras

2012-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond
HD is over-rated for most consumer use.

Your 3ccd camera was top of the pops not so long ago but has been largely 
eclipsed by CMOS technology which can almost sort of simulate 3ccd with only 
one. I've got 2x 3ccd cameras, a 1ccd HD and a CMOS and each is good in its own 
instance. The 1ccd is fine in bright light situations, 3ccds are better for 
lower light, the CMOS camera is very small.

-Curt

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I still have a standard definition Panasonic 3CCD mini DV video camera that 
does a fantastic job.  I used it a lot when I was at the university producing 
videos for my supervising professor.  It's a real workhorse and works well, 
especially when I pair it with my RODE shotgun mike.

I have considered selling it, but it has almost no value in the resale market 
due to the cheap HD cameras that are all over the place.  While it doesn't do 
HD I'm convinced that the 3CCD feature makes the picture quality superior to 
most HD cameras on the market today.

Dan

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