[MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
No. Peter On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Peter Merle wrote: I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
Try some of the companies that advertise in British car mags that offer mail order service. They seem to have a number of great such products. They've had lots of need to develop such products. lol Ed 300E 2008/12/13 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net No. Peter On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Peter Merle wrote: I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
The cosmoline I knew was this extremely sticky greasy brownish/black stuff that parts were slathered in, and it took a long time and a lot of solvent to get them cleaned. I think it was nuclear war proof, so after The Big One your stuff would still be fine. Not sure that is what you would want to put inside stuff, though I'm sure it would do a good job. Maybe just some oil all over everything then in a zip-lock bag with the air squeezed out? --R E M wrote: Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
No, I believe that's exactly what you describe - a wax-based preservative intended to prevent corrosion, but it's not Cosmoline. Any major engine manufacturer, especially in the industrial engine world, offers some sort of preservative oil for long term storage. I used to use it some years ago with Cummins and John Deere engines. Both companies offered the product, and it was nothing more than a really heavy oil that was really viscous that you sprayed on the exposed metal parts of the engines before you mothballed them. You could probably accomplish the same thing with some machine oil in a spray bottle. As long as the exposed surfaces are covered and there is something to keep the stuff in place (wrapping in some heavy oiled paper, like grocery bags are made of) it should be fine. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:09 AM Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
What about the insides of the cylinders ? eg master cylinders - the parts are all operational - I was hoping to keep it all together and not strip the hydraulics Peter 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com No, I believe that's exactly what you describe - a wax-based preservative intended to prevent corrosion, but it's not Cosmoline. Any major engine manufacturer, especially in the industrial engine world, offers some sort of preservative oil for long term storage. I used to use it some years ago with Cummins and John Deere engines. Both companies offered the product, and it was nothing more than a really heavy oil that was really viscous that you sprayed on the exposed metal parts of the engines before you mothballed them. You could probably accomplish the same thing with some machine oil in a spray bottle. As long as the exposed surfaces are covered and there is something to keep the stuff in place (wrapping in some heavy oiled paper, like grocery bags are made of) it should be fine. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:09 AM Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics
NO petroleum products -- they will eat the rubber. Seal in a plastic bag to keep the water vapor out and avoid condensing condition is about all I would do for short term storage. For long term, you may need to put some dessicant in the bag to absorb water. Best not to store used brake parts unsealed -- the brake fluid will absorb water and cause corrosion. Peter On Dec 13, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Peter Merle wrote: What about the insides of the cylinders ? eg master cylinders - the parts are all operational - I was hoping to keep it all together and not strip the hydraulics Peter 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com No, I believe that's exactly what you describe - a wax-based preservative intended to prevent corrosion, but it's not Cosmoline. Any major engine manufacturer, especially in the industrial engine world, offers some sort of preservative oil for long term storage. I used to use it some years ago with Cummins and John Deere engines. Both companies offered the product, and it was nothing more than a really heavy oil that was really viscous that you sprayed on the exposed metal parts of the engines before you mothballed them. You could probably accomplish the same thing with some machine oil in a spray bottle. As long as the exposed surfaces are covered and there is something to keep the stuff in place (wrapping in some heavy oiled paper, like grocery bags are made of) it should be fine. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:09 AM Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of storing parts. I met a guy, about 15 years ago now, how had a restoration shop that specialized in Bugattis. They restored, and built up a number of cars, using original parts while fabricating all those which were missing. What was it they used to say in the Bugatti Club in England, There are probably 3 times more Bugattis today then were ever left the factory. hee hee. Anyway, he said, if you want to come up and have a look around at the inventory before it goes into longer term storage, please do so. I planned to go, but didn't make it. Lots of original Bugatti parts, most still wrapped in their original Bugatti shipping paper as they left the factory. Not the kinda stuff you find at NAPA. lol The attention to detail on a number of the cars I saw was nothing short of fantastic!!! Right down to sourcing old factory photos they could enlarge, so when recreating body panels, they could get the number, and placement or rivets right! Ed 300E 2008/12/13 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net NO petroleum products -- they will eat the rubber. Seal in a plastic bag to keep the water vapor out and avoid condensing condition is about all I would do for short term storage. For long term, you may need to put some dessicant in the bag to absorb water. Best not to store used brake parts unsealed -- the brake fluid will absorb water and cause corrosion. Peter On Dec 13, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Peter Merle wrote: What about the insides of the cylinders ? eg master cylinders - the parts are all operational - I was hoping to keep it all together and not strip the hydraulics Peter 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com No, I believe that's exactly what you describe - a wax-based preservative intended to prevent corrosion, but it's not Cosmoline. Any major engine manufacturer, especially in the industrial engine world, offers some sort of preservative oil for long term storage. I used to use it some years ago with Cummins and John Deere engines. Both companies offered the product, and it was nothing more than a really heavy oil that was really viscous that you sprayed on the exposed metal parts of the engines before you mothballed them. You could probably accomplish the same thing with some machine oil in a spray bottle. As long as the exposed surfaces are covered and there is something to keep the stuff in place (wrapping in some heavy oiled paper, like grocery bags are made of) it should be fine. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:09 AM Isn't cosmoline the product used in the engine bay of our cars when they leave the factory. Kind of a yellowy waxy looking coating? Drop LarryT a note, I think he has some stuff from England which is similar and may fit the bill. Ed 300E 2008/12/13 LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Peter, Try and find some preservative oil, known around these parts by the brand name Cosmoline. This, along with heavy brown paper soaked in the same, is often used for long term storage of metal parts. You basically spray the stuff all over the part and wrap it up in brown paper. I'm sure there are similar preservative sprays available in your part of the world. Try a marine engine supplier - they would have something, I'm sure. Dan --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Preserving hydraulics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:36 AM I am busy stripping a W123 and would like some advice on the preservation storage of brake hydraulic components . Can I use paraffin or ATF in the hydraulics to prevent corrosion? Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive
