Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
dave walton wrote: If you pour it in to the correct side of the filter, you will be okay, right? Seems simple enough. Have you ever tried to pour oil or fuel into the little holes around the edges of a spin on filter? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
If you pour it in to the correct side of the filter, you will be okay, right? Seems simple enough. -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 10:17 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, and all, I have run out of fuel in my diesels several times over the last 35 years, both on purpose, and not!? If you cut the engine at the very first stumble, it will restart quite easily, no priming pump needed, When I changed the main fuel filter on the W116.120 (with leaky primer pump), I did it with the engine warm. I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. The car started right up, and started to stumble. I used the throttle to hold it at 2000-2500 rpm until it ran smoothly. As you say, not a problem unless you totally lose your prime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Yes, use a tool - it's called a funnel. Here is a set of 4 for $0.99: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=744 -Dave Walton On Jan 25, 2008 9:08 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: If you pour it in to the correct side of the filter, you will be okay, right? Seems simple enough. Have you ever tried to pour oil or fuel into the little holes around the edges of a spin on filter? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
On Jan 25, 2008 6:15 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, use a tool - it's called a funnel. Here is a set of 4 for $0.99: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=744 Gotta be a pretty small funnel to go in the little holes around the edges, though. Pour a little, wait a lot, etc. That would get old fast. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 6:15 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, use a tool - it's called a funnel. Here is a set of 4 for $0.99: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=744 Gotta be a pretty small funnel to go in the little holes around the edges, though. Pour a little, wait a lot, etc. That would get old fast. If you try it with cold motor oil, you're talking hours/days. I tried it once with 5W30 Mobil One on a warm summer day, didn't get half an ounce in there. What flows through a tight filter easily at 90psi does not flow easily under an inch or two of oil column. Just getting cold oil through the holes is a chore. Diesel fuel would flow much better, but I've never tried it, and a fuel filter probably flows better than an oil filter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
How long do you have to crank for? Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2008 09:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty On Jan 23, 2008 10:37 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Or the battery dies. Ask me how I know! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
I ran my 300SDL out of fuel and I had to crank for about 10 minutes. But I cranked in short bursts with some time in between to let the starter cool. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty How long do you have to crank for? Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2008 09:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty On Jan 23, 2008 10:37 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Or the battery dies. Ask me how I know! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
Last time I had this problem it was cranking for 60-120 seconds! Make sure your battery is in good nick! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Peter, and all, I have run out of fuel in my diesels several times over the last 35 years, both on purpose, and not!? If you cut the engine at the very first stumble, it will restart quite easily, no priming pump needed, after fuel is added.? If you try to milk it, sway the car to slosh the remaining fuel, you are asking for trouble.? I have run out of diesel in the middle of the night, in the middle of Montana, because stations were closed in the towns I was passing through.? Did you know that 2 quarts of oil will get you at least 20 miles down the road when added to an empty tank?? Driven gently, of course.? Beats walking!? Just don't pull off the road?to a?steeply cambered area, or the fuel pickup might just suck air! Regards, Jim in Phoenix How long do you have to crank for? -Original Message- From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 7:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty How long do you have to crank for? Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2008 09:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty On Jan 23, 2008 10:37 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Or the battery dies. Ask me how I know! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, and all, I have run out of fuel in my diesels several times over the last 35 years, both on purpose, and not!? If you cut the engine at the very first stumble, it will restart quite easily, no priming pump needed, When I changed the main fuel filter on the W116.120 (with leaky primer pump), I did it with the engine warm. I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. The car started right up, and started to stumble. I used the throttle to hold it at 2000-2500 rpm until it ran smoothly. As you say, not a problem unless you totally lose your prime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Mitch, In your case, you had an IP full of fuel. In my case, I ran dry which means that the system was empty from the tank all the way through the IP. It takes a little longer to prime when you run out of fuel while traveling down the highway at 80 MPH! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, and all, I have run out of fuel in my diesels several times over the last 35 years, both on purpose, and not!? If you cut the engine at the very first stumble, it will restart quite easily, no priming pump needed, When I changed the main fuel filter on the W116.120 (with leaky primer pump), I did it with the engine warm. I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. The car started right up, and started to stumble. I used the throttle to hold it at 2000-2500 rpm until it ran smoothly. As you say, not a problem unless you totally lose your prime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Mitch Haley wrote: I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. When I got my first Mercedes Diesel, I was working at the dealership and we had ONE GM diesel mechanic. He told me to fill the filter with Transmission fluid. That is what he did on his Oldsmobile diesel. I didn't know any better, but have learned that is probably not the best way to go. I don't think I could have hurt that old car. It was a 123 diesel with over 400,000 miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
On Jan 24, 2008 7:17 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. What about Diesel Purge or Diesel Kleen straight from the can/bottle? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Donald Snook wrote: When I got my first Mercedes Diesel, I was working at the dealership and we had ONE GM diesel mechanic. He told me to fill the filter with Transmission fluid. That is what he did on his Oldsmobile diesel. At least a sealed container of ATF or Diesel Purge is a lot less likely to have dirt in it than the jerry can of diesel fuel sitting in the garage. I'm sure a few specks of grit just barely too small to see wouldn't do the IP any favors, and filling the filter from my tractor fuel can would virtually guarantee that to happen. Would the ATF burn hot and clean out prechamber deposits, or would it burn poorly and make deposits? I don't know. I'm sure the Roosa Master pump on the Olds appreciated the lube, but I doubt it helped for more than an hour or two of running time. A pt or qt of oil in the fuel tank at every fill might really help a fuel lubricated pump. I think 60-100k miles was the normal lifespan for the Roosa pump, if you could get an extra 50-100% with fuel lubricants it would make a significant difference in long term driving costs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
Diesel purge straight from the can works. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/24/08 12:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT! On Jan 24, 2008 7:17 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not pour unfiltered fuel into the center of a filter before installing it, not ever. IPs are too expensive to fix. What about Diesel Purge or Diesel Kleen straight from the can/bottle? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
On Jan 24, 2008 9:11 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diesel purge straight from the can works. I know it works in the sense of priming the pump nicely and preventing excessive cranking, but is it clean enough to safely send it into the IP unfiltered, or have I just been lucky so far? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
It's safe to prime with. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 1/24/08 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT! On Jan 24, 2008 9:11 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diesel purge straight from the can works. I know it works in the sense of priming the pump nicely and preventing excessive cranking, but is it clean enough to safely send it into the IP unfiltered, or have I just been lucky so far? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT!
What side of the car is the pick up - left or right , if going up a hill and you run out will going downhill pick the fuel up? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2008 17:11 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty/BTDT! Peter, and all, I have run out of fuel in my diesels several times over the last 35 years, both on purpose, and not!? If you cut the engine at the very first stumble, it will restart quite easily, no priming pump needed, after fuel is added.? If you try to milk it, sway the car to slosh the remaining fuel, you are asking for trouble.? I have run out of diesel in the middle of the night, in the middle of Montana, because stations were closed in the towns I was passing through.? Did you know that 2 quarts of oil will get you at least 20 miles down the road when added to an empty tank?? Driven gently, of course.? Beats walking!? Just don't pull off the road?to a?steeply cambered area, or the fuel pickup might just suck air! Regards, Jim in Phoenix How long do you have to crank for? -Original Message- From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 7:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty How long do you have to crank for? Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2008 09:27 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running on empty On Jan 23, 2008 10:37 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Or the battery dies. Ask me how I know! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Running on empty
I managed to achieve 1000 km on a single tank of diesel in my W124 300D . It did not consist of any long cruisin trips just my daily commute and trips arround town. In fact when I topped up there still was 5 litres in the tank ( assuming the 70 litre tank size is correct) . What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? This one does not have a hand primer like the older diesels. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Yup. I used a clean grease gun to pump fuel through my 190D (via fuel feed hose) after RR on the injection pump. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
Run out of gas?? I guess if you only have to fill up once every 1000 kms, it's easy to forget the car needs fuel to run. lol. I, unfortunately, am reminded often that my car runs on gas. hee hee. I seem to have a leak in my tank, but when I drive slower, it leaks much less for some reason. Hmm :-) Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I managed to achieve 1000 km on a single tank of diesel in my W124 300D . It did not consist of any long cruisin trips just my daily commute and trips arround town. In fact when I topped up there still was 5 litres in the tank ( assuming the 70 litre tank size is correct) . What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? This one does not have a hand primer like the older diesels. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Running on empty
On Jan 23, 2008 10:37 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ould like to know is how do you prime the W124 when you do run out ? Do you just crank and crank and eventally the fuel picks up ? Or the battery dies. Ask me how I know! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
