Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Yeah … mine actually still have key switches that work or worked I have fixed a million mowers and motor scooters … I still have a bunch of this stuff Www.javacycles.com Xx rick > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:37 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Usually on small engines there is one wire that handles grounding the coil. > Often it wraps around the outside of the engine and has a connector inline > somewhere. If you can find and unplug it the machine is always on which at > least lets you know that the no-spark issue is outside of the engine/magneto. > > My 1965 Snapper Comet has zero safety anything. No switches at all in fact, > you shut it down by choking it out. Someday I might put a toggle switch on it > but that's just one more thing to fail... > > -Curt > > > On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:23:55 AM EDT, RICK HAWKINS > wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, it’s an electric start maybe 8 hp rear end rider … probably late 70s …. > I have the service manual for it or a similar one, so I’ll read up on it > > Maybe easier to fix my slightly newer snapper ($150) that just stopped …. I > think it’s some safety switch causing no spark > > I just haven’t studied it > > Xx rick > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:07 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> This is a Snapper RER? (rear engine rider) >> >> They're actually really simple and, as you say, already have the grease >> fitting. >> >> I've had to fart around with this on mine quite a bit, a couple years ago >> the pulley came loose from it's hub. While I had it off I don't remember if >> the spindle fell out or if I took it out on purpose, I suspect with that >> heavy blade it just fell out. I don't remember there being anything weird >> about it. >> >> I've also had trouble with the blade getting loose on the spindle. I think I >> failed to tighten it enough back when I didn't have an impact gun. I ended >> up having to modify the nut a little and it seems good now but I should >> check it again in the spring. >> >> -Curt >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:55:58 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, it will barely turn ….it is big … the blade is about 30 inches and >>> has two big bearings and a grease fitting which I had greased >> >> It just looks like a pain to remove >> On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >>> >>> Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? >>> >>> Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers >>> don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to >>> pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that >>> on the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Folks >>> >>> Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and >>> passenger front seats swappable?I think the drivers back has a busted >>> frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my >>> time repairing it >>> >>> Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the >>> mower blade >>> >>> Have any of you ever done one of those? >>> >>> Xx rick >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Usually on small engines there is one wire that handles grounding the coil. Often it wraps around the outside of the engine and has a connector inline somewhere. If you can find and unplug it the machine is always on which at least lets you know that the no-spark issue is outside of the engine/magneto. My 1965 Snapper Comet has zero safety anything. No switches at all in fact, you shut it down by choking it out. Someday I might put a toggle switch on it but that's just one more thing to fail... -Curt On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:23:55 AM EDT, RICK HAWKINS wrote: Yeah, it’s an electric start maybe 8 hp rear end rider … probably late 70s …. I have the service manual for it or a similar one, so I’ll read up on it Maybe easier to fix my slightly newer snapper ($150) that just stopped …. I think it’s some safety switch causing no spark I just haven’t studied it Xx rick > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:07 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > This is a Snapper RER? (rear engine rider) > > They're actually really simple and, as you say, already have the grease > fitting. > > I've had to fart around with this on mine quite a bit, a couple years ago the > pulley came loose from it's hub. While I had it off I don't remember if the > spindle fell out or if I took it out on purpose, I suspect with that heavy > blade it just fell out. I don't remember there being anything weird about it. > > I've also had trouble with the blade getting loose on the spindle. I think I > failed to tighten it enough back when I didn't have an impact gun. I ended up > having to modify the nut a little and it seems good now but I should check it > again in the spring. > > -Curt > >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:55:58 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, it will barely turn ….it is big … the blade is about 30 inches and has >> two big bearings and a grease fitting which I had greased > > It just looks like a pain to remove > >> On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? >> >> Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers >> don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to >> pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that on >> the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Folks >> >> Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and >> passenger front seats swappable? I think the drivers back has a busted >> frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my >> time repairing it >> >> Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the >> mower blade >> >> Have any of you ever done one of those? >> >> Xx rick >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Yeah, it’s an electric start maybe 8 hp rear end rider … probably late 70s …. I have the service manual for it or a similar one, so I’ll read up on it Maybe easier to fix my slightly newer snapper ($150) that just stopped …. I think it’s some safety switch causing no spark I just haven’t studied it Xx rick > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:07 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > This is a Snapper RER? (rear engine rider) > > They're actually really simple and, as you say, already have the grease > fitting. > > I've had to fart around with this on mine quite a bit, a couple years ago the > pulley came loose from it's hub. While I had it off I don't remember if the > spindle fell out or if I took it out on purpose, I suspect with that heavy > blade it just fell out. I don't remember there being anything weird about it. > > I've also had trouble with the blade getting loose on the spindle. I think I > failed to tighten it enough back when I didn't have an impact gun. I ended up > having to modify the nut a little and it seems good now but I should check it > again in the spring. > > -Curt > >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:55:58 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, it will barely turn ….it is big … the blade is about 30 inches and has >> two big bearings and a grease fitting which I had greased > > It just looks like a pain to remove > >> On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? >> >> Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers >> don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to >> pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that on >> the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Folks >> >> Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and >> passenger front seats swappable?I think the drivers back has a busted >> frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my >> time repairing it >> >> Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the >> mower blade >> >> Have any of you ever done one of those? >> >> Xx rick >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
This is a Snapper RER? (rear engine rider) They're actually really simple and, as you say, already have the grease fitting. I've had to fart around with this on mine quite a bit, a couple years ago the pulley came loose from it's hub. While I had it off I don't remember if the spindle fell out or if I took it out on purpose, I suspect with that heavy blade it just fell out. I don't remember there being anything weird about it. I've also had trouble with the blade getting loose on the spindle. I think I failed to tighten it enough back when I didn't have an impact gun. I ended up having to modify the nut a little and it seems good now but I should check it again in the spring. -Curt On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:55:58 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS wrote: > Yeah, it will barely turn ….it is big … the blade is about 30 inches and has > two big bearings and a grease fitting which I had greased It just looks like a pain to remove > On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? > > Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers > don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to > pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that on > the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... > > -Curt > > > > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Folks > > Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and > passenger front seats swappable? I think the drivers back has a busted > frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my time > repairing it > > Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the > mower blade > > Have any of you ever done one of those? > > Xx rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
> Yeah, it will barely turn ….it is big … the blade is about 30 inches and has > two big bearings and a grease fitting which I had greased It just looks like a pain to remove > On Mar 19, 2023, at 10:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? > > Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers > don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to > pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that on > the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... > > -Curt > > > > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Folks > > Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and > passenger front seats swappable?I think the drivers back has a busted > frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my time > repairing it > > Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the > mower blade > > Have any of you ever done one of those? > > Xx rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Seized how like seized in the bearing and won't turn? Generally the spindles are pretty simple arrangements. Most cheap mowers don't have a way to grease the sealed spindle bearings. It's pretty easy to pull the housings apart and drill and tap for grease fittings. I did that on the Crapsman at camp, it's been quiet for a long time since... -Curt On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 08:14:51 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote: Folks Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and passenger front seats swappable? I think the drivers back has a busted frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my time repairing it Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the mower blade Have any of you ever done one of those? Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Yes. All you have to do is pop a little cover off where the seat belt mounts and move the cover to the other side. On 3/19/2023 7:14 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote: Folks Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and passenger front seats swappable?I think the drivers back has a busted frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my time repairing it Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the mower blade Have any of you ever done one of those? Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stupid e320 question
Folks Here is maybe stupid 2002 e320 hovercraft question …. Are the driver and passenger front seats swappable?I think the drivers back has a busted frame or something on the back and if I could swap them, I could take my time repairing it Speaking of mowers, my running $50 snapper rider has a seized shaft on the mower blade Have any of you ever done one of those? Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
I think the aftermath is over. Summary, post-recovery: I checked the water pump at home, it was still stiff. Didn't feel 'notchy' like a bad bearing, it's a straight grinding stiffness, perhaps like the drive flange is contacting the face of the housing. Regardless, it's defective and needs replacement. I checked my options, and decided to buy the NAPA water pump, which could be picked up the next day. More money, but the car would be drivable that much sooner. Total was $113.25, with tax and online 20% discount. Once the pump was off the car the problem was obvious, especially when comparing the two pumps. The shaft had worked inwards, allowing the steel impeller to start milling a hole in the front of the engine block. The pulley edge had also started cutting a groove in the main hose neck. The old pump was not leaking, nor were its bearings going bad. The geometry had simply slipped, you could see that the drive flange was a bit out of plane, so it was the shaft-to-bearing-race mating surfaces that had slipped out of position, and not impeller-to-shaft or flange-to-shaft contacts. The new Saleri pump, of course, did not have this problem. It came with two gaskets, we used the formed O-ring style gasket rather than the flat paper gasket. The only concern is that the milled divot in the engine block might reduce the pumping efficiency, but there's next to nothing that can be done about that, short of replacing the block (!) or troweling JB-Weld into the divot and filing it flat. We'll try it as-is first. We could only get half of the necessary replacement G-05 coolant back into the engine. There was obviously an air bubble, and the heat did not work. I got the engine heated up on a test drive, and parked it nose up while it cooled. After a few hours this way, after dark and with the snow starting, I moved it back into the garage. The car then complained about low coolant, so the air bubble had been mostly eliminated. I added the rest of the coolant in two more burping steps the next day. My wife drove the car to an evening gig, and all was well. It has been suggested that the suspiciously-short driving time after the belt broke might be due to the battery being old and tired. A week later my son called from his job interview, the car wouldn't start afterwards. I threw tools and jumper cables in the truck and went to the rescue. The voltmeter showed only 12V on the resting battery, and it dropped to about 11.6V when the door was opened. Bad sign! Hitting the key to start showed it drop below 10V, which explained why it didn't even try to run the starter motor. I used jumper cables to give the car a bit of charge, and it then started. The running voltage was around 14V, which is good. Bad battery? After charging a bit I stopped the car and put the load tester on, and the battery could only put out maybe 300A for a second or so before the voltage dropped precipitously. There was no date code on the Group 49 battery, so who knows how old it is. It's at least 3 years old, as that's how long we've had the car. A weak battery would certainly explain why the car ran for so little after it threw the belt. We made some calls, and eventually, after much screwing around, we determined that Home Depot had an H8/L5/Group 49 battery in stock, at $129, much less than other potential sources. ($140.48 with tax.) We drove there directly and bought one. I put the jumper cables on (to preserve system voltage) and removed the old battery and installed the new one. This is fairly easy to do, though it being under the rear seat is odd. A post-replacement load test (after the nice drive to Home Depot) was just as pathetic as before. I then returned the dead battery for the $12 core. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
> If bad stuff started happening when the belt came off, and not when the > battery went some time after the belt came off, you might want a better > battery. How old is it? You might be right. I've no idea how old it is. Will have to look sometime. The recovery went flawlessly. We drove over, dug out the car, put on the jumper cables, and installed the 'new' belt and pulley. Checking all the accessories by hand, the water pump was very stiff, which is not a good sign. It's probably ready to fail too. So, I used the old belt from Barney, rather than risk the brand-new belt, just in case it did it again. (I had a tow rope, too.) The car started easily, but was a little squeaky. (Water pump?) Regardless, we hopped in and drove the 100 miles back home, no incidents. Checking the pump at home, it's still stiff. Doesn't feel 'notchy' like a bad bearing, it's a straight grinding stiffness, perhaps like the drive flange is contacting the face of the housing. Regardless, it's defective and needs replacement. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
On 2021-12-21 09:41, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Really, quite _quite_ lucky, all things considered. If bad stuff started happening when the belt came off, and not when the battery went some time after the belt came off, you might want a better battery. How old is it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Were you cruising at speed, or slogging slow speed in snow? Cruising in traffic knot behind plows at first. As we approached the exit the dash lights got even dimmer and lots more warnings started showing up, dimly, on the dash display. I was 'coasting' as far as I could towards that last exit, hoping we could make it off the freeway. It went much farther than I thought it should on 'no power', and when I put it in neutral I felt it jerk and stop pushing, so I quickly pulled it back into gear again. I had thought the engine had died, but it hadn't, quite. We off-idled the rest of the way, at walking speed, blew through the stop sign at the end of the ramp and rolled into a parking place at the $50,000 silver dollar bar there at the exit. Pissed off quite a few truckers etc. as we rolling road-blocked our way to safety. Really, quite _quite_ lucky, all things considered. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
On 2021-12-21 09:17, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: 50 miles with no headlights maybe. It was closer to 5. Puking engine at the end was pushing it barely faster than we would have been able to, on dry pavement. Which it wasn't. The plows were out and the snow was coming down... Were you cruising at speed, or slogging slow speed in snow? One morning my 2003 ML350 seemed to crank slower than normal (battery not fully charged). Seat heat just blinked the red light and went out. 10 miles later I notice the wipers are going slow and turn the headlights off. Another ten miles or so and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree. I'm now in a very bad place to pull over on the shoulder. Then a mile or two later it slowed down, then again to 40 in a mile. By the time I got to a ramp it was doing exactly 20 and I pulled over mid-ramp figuring it wouldn't let me go to a parking lot. After I stopped it wouldn't let me take it out of park, we had to jump it to roll it on the flatbed. A year later, the tensioner pulley exploded ten miles from home. I drove it five miles to the tow truck depot with no belt, lights were a little dim and the temp went up a little. Could have driven it home but didn't want to chance it. That pulley felt fine less than 1000 miles earlier when I replaced the alternator. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> 50 miles with no headlights maybe. It was closer to 5. Puking engine at the end was pushing it barely faster than we would have been able to, on dry pavement. Which it wasn't. The plows were out and the snow was coming down... Heat had stopped. We're on our way soon to retrieve the car... if we can! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lots of luck. I have done that drive enough to know just how big of a bullet you dodged Clay > On Dec 20, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and > halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, > or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in > this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp > gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as > the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely > above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous > driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able > to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. > > We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up > staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. > The car's still there. > > The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed > that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back > tomorrow > to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper > cables along. > Wish me luck! > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2021-12-20 17:52, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Typo. 110 miles. Not doing that on a brand new battery and no serpentine belt. 50 miles with no headlights maybe. 11 miles would be easy, assuming you could get the coolant moving. I know from experience a M112 only goes up 5-10 degrees when it loses a belt in winter, but that was on an engine that already had the coolant warm and circulating. Warm water continued to rise in the engine, and drop as it cooled through the radiator. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is pretty common and cheap to replace. I always check them before I do a belt. Probably a good idea to keep on the shelf. On 12/20/2021 4:27 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. The car's still there. The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back tomorrow to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper cables along. Wish me luck! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, not 1100 miles but still a bigger issue than 11 miles. Obviously, think long and hard and try to figure out everything you could need. Good luck. When are you doing this? Tomorrow? Randy On 20/12/2021 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Typo. 110 miles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
The 05E320 wagon munched the tensioner pulley the day after I got it, late at night. Had to call a friend to come collect me, I was about 100yd from another friend's farm so pulled into a field and left it there. I should have dealt with it as I heard it screaming on the way home from Hilton Head, surprised it did not fail on the trip, out in the middle of the ACE Basin with gators around. I feel for you. Ts & Ps headed your way... --FT On 12/20/21 5:27 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. The car's still there. The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back tomorrow to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper cables along. Wish me luck! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
Typo. 110 miles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
Pretty common source of failure on these engines/cars and fortunately an easy/cheap one to fix. Sorry you had a failure while on the road, especially in inclement weather. That’s never fun, but at least you weren’t stranded out in the Styx somewhere. For what it’s worth, this is a maintenance item I always check on an M112 engine as they’re easy to spot if worn and equally easy to swap out. -D > On Dec 20, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and > halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, > or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in > this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp > gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as > the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely > above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous > driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able > to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. > > We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up > staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. > The car's still there. > > The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed > that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back > tomorrow > to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper > cables along. > Wish me luck! > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stupid E320
> How far from home is the car? 11 miles, over two mountain passes. > I know you have the big Dodge. Do you have a car hauler trailer? Have car trailer, and three tow-capable pickups. > Can you borrow one? Might be better to go prepared to drag it home on the > trailer. That's the problem. Pass conditions are generally terrible, and _towing_ heavy could well be quite dangerous. The trailer doesn't have brakes. Getting car on the trailer could be difficult. All in all, fix-and-drive will be best, IF it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Modern vehicles are a pain in so many ways. How far from home is the car? I know you have the big Dodge. Do you have a car hauler trailer? Can you borrow one? Might be better to go prepared to drag it home on the trailer. Good Luck. Randy On 20/12/2021 4:27 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. The car's still there. The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back tomorrow to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper cables along. Wish me luck! -- Jim ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stupid E320
Saturday I went to pick up my son from college in Missoula, and halfway back home the car threw the belt. No alternator, water pump, or power steering---awkward! There is almost no reserve capacity in this car, the dash lights started dimming after only a few minutes. Temp gauge never got very high. Lots of warning lights started coming on as the voltage dropped. The car started misfiring, and puking along barely above idle, but it was still pushing. Blizzard conditions, very hazardous driving. No hazard lights, they didn't work on low voltage. We were able to limp to the next exit and get off. Even parked safely under its own power. We were at the last services exit before the mountain pass. We ended up staying the night at the motel, until friends could come get us the next day. The car's still there. The tensioner idler pulley had seized, and burned up the belt. Today I robbed that pulley off of Barney, another E320, and we're planning to go back tomorrow to put it (and a new belt) on the car and ferry it home. Bringing jumper cables along. Wish me luck! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stupid E320 question for the day
Where do my 1.0L of power steering fluid go in my 210.282 wagon? I see an SLS reservoir, but not the P/S fluid reservoir. The only reference I can find in the many books that came with the car is in the fluid capacities section (which, oddly enough, makes no mention of the SLS fluid) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
