Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[MG via Mercedes]

trouble is most of those for a long time have been using paper 
filters. Heck my 71 IH 125c has double paper filters in a round 
canister. Unfortunately that one is way too big to fit under the 
hood. I need a local tractor junk yard so I can look at a bunch 
of them. I haven't found one down here yet. Not much farming 
going on in Fl anymore. Either that or they aren't getting rid of 
their tractors in state.


Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I doubt it.  that is why I suggested snagging one from an old tractor or 
road grader, etc.



MG via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 2:05 PM
But would that flow the amount of air needed by the 617 turbo?




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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I doubt it.  that is why I suggested snagging one from an old tractor or 
road grader, etc.



MG via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 2:05 PM
But would that flow the amount of air needed by the 617 turbo?




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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

They are very easy to clean and CHEAP to renew.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 12:14 PM
What is the advantage of doing that? Those oil bath filters are nasty 
to mess with.




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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wife used to work for local rainbow distributor. She scheduled the appointments 
for the sales people. Their business model is very strange. They sell them for 
nearly $3k and hold lavish meetings and trips and give away expensive gifts. If 
they sold them at a much more reasonable price with a normal business model and 
not the door to door method I would think their business would increase. It is 
a great product but just too overpriced.

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> On Mar 5, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
>> It WAS a vacuum. Rainbow. Used to be Rexair back in the day.
> 
> Just out of coledg I sold those for a while until I got a job using
> 1-year HS drafting experience, which is where I got laid off 35 years
> later using AutoCAD.  Never got a promotion.  Oh, well, life is gone.
> tin-man - ;-)
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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[MG via Mercedes]

Not really if you're used to it. They do tend to clean the dust 
out of the air better then the paper filters or so it seemed to me.


Dump the old oil out, wipe out any dirt, fill up with oil you 
just took out of the engine.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
What is the advantage of doing that? Those oil bath filters are nasty to mess with. 


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

You can adapt one form the 110.110 to the 123 240D.  Particularly the early 
240Ds with the swing tube intake.  That is a simple bolt on transfer from 
110.110

Or you can take the whole intake manifold from 110.110 (OM621) and bolt it  on 
the OM616.  BTDT

for 5 cyl, you would have to salvage a oil bath off a bigger engine.  Old 
tractors around here...


MG via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM
Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I wish 
there was one for the 123.


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[MG via Mercedes]

I can still ask them tomorrow.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

There is one in the epc but I doubt it is still available

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On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:23 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

You could probably adapt one from an early 115 Diesel car - - - my '70 220D
had one.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I
wish there was one for the 123.





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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[MG via Mercedes]

Never thought of looking at tractor filters. Hmmm

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
You can adapt one form the 110.110 to the 123 240D.  Particularly the 
early 240Ds with the swing tube intake.  That is a simple bolt on 
transfer from 110.110


Or you can take the whole intake manifold from 110.110 (OM621) and bolt 
it  on the OM616.  BTDT


for 5 cyl, you would have to salvage a oil bath off a bigger engine.  
Old tractors around here...



MG via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM
Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. 
I wish there was one for the 123.




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[MG via Mercedes]

But would that flow the amount of air needed by the 617 turbo?

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

You could probably adapt one from an early 115 Diesel car - - - my '70 220D
had one.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I
wish there was one for the 123.








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Rick wrote:
> It WAS a vacuum. Rainbow. Used to be Rexair back in the day.

Just out of coledg I sold those for a while until I got a job using
1-year HS drafting experience, which is where I got laid off 35 years
later using AutoCAD.  Never got a promotion.  Oh, well, life is gone.
tin-man - ;-)

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By combo unit you mean a carpet shampooer?
Curt

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  On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:58 AM, rogerhga--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   Curt, I didn't need to look at the 
links and I DO understand the concept of the combo units and trying to save you 
the initial vacuum step with a regular vacuum cleaner. My sole points are: use 
a regular vac first for the big stuff and then pour the water outside. Or go 
ahead and tear up stuff using a combo unit and pouring the results down the 
garbage disposal, it's everyone's choice. Just trying to make a reasonable 
suggestion...use it or not. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What is the advantage of doing that? Those oil bath filters are nasty to mess 
with. 

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> On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can adapt one form the 110.110 to the 123 240D.  Particularly the early 
> 240Ds with the swing tube intake.  That is a simple bolt on transfer from 
> 110.110
> 
> Or you can take the whole intake manifold from 110.110 (OM621) and bolt it  
> on the OM616.  BTDT
> 
> for 5 cyl, you would have to salvage a oil bath off a bigger engine.  Old 
> tractors around here...
> 
>> MG via Mercedes 
>> March 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM
>> Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I wish 
>> there was one for the 123.
>> 
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is one in the epc but I doubt it is still available

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> On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:23 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You could probably adapt one from an early 115 Diesel car - - - my '70 220D
> had one.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I
>> wish there was one for the 123.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You can adapt one form the 110.110 to the 123 240D.  Particularly the 
early 240Ds with the swing tube intake.  That is a simple bolt on 
transfer from 110.110


Or you can take the whole intake manifold from 110.110 (OM621) and bolt 
it  on the OM616.  BTDT


for 5 cyl, you would have to salvage a oil bath off a bigger engine.  
Old tractors around here...



MG via Mercedes 
March 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM
Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. 
I wish there was one for the 123.




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[OK Don via Mercedes]

You could probably adapt one from an early 115 Diesel car - - - my '70 220D
had one.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:05 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the VWs. I
> wish there was one for the 123.
>
>
>


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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MG via Mercedes]

Kind of like the oil bath air filters that I used to love in the 
VWs. I wish there was one for the 123.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

You didn't look at the links and you don't understand. It is a vacuum, it uses 
water for a filter not unlike the old oil bath water filters. Obviously the 
water shouldn't be put in the sink...
Curt

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  On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:28 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:   Rick, I understand that. BUT, if you use a regular vacuum first, it makes the job better. Mixing the two tasks lets you end up with the problem Kaleb experienced. I'm speaking from my wife's point of view and she's never clogged up our disposal in 39 years of marriage...so I assume she knows of what she speaks. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
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Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Curt, I didn't need to look at the links and I DO understand the concept of the 
combo units and trying to save you the initial vacuum step with a regular 
vacuum cleaner. My sole points are: use a regular vac first for the big stuff 
and then pour the water outside. Or go ahead and tear up stuff using a combo 
unit and pouring the results down the garbage disposal, it's everyone's choice. 
Just trying to make a reasonable suggestion...use it or not. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You didn't look at the links and you don't understand. It is a vacuum, it uses 
water for a filter not unlike the old oil bath water filters. Obviously the 
water shouldn't be put in the sink...
Curt

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  On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:28 AM, rogerhga--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   Rick, I understand that. BUT, if you 
use a regular vacuum first, it makes the job better. Mixing the two tasks lets 
you end up with the problem Kaleb experienced. I'm speaking from my wife's 
point of view and she's never clogged up our disposal in 39 years of 
marriage...so I assume she knows of what she speaks. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Rick, I understand that. BUT, if you use a regular vacuum first, it makes the 
job better. Mixing the two tasks lets you end up with the problem Kaleb 
experienced. I'm speaking from my wife's point of view and she's never clogged 
up our disposal in 39 years of marriage...so I assume she knows of what she 
speaks. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It WAS a vacuum. Rainbow. Used to be Rexair back in the day. The machine uses 
water to trap the dust and dirt. 

‎http://rainbowsystem.com/rainbow-system/our-history/in-the-beginning

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Rick
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The real moral of the story is: VACUUM YOUR CARPET BEFORE YOU USE THE 
CLEANER! 
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The real moral of the story is: VACUUM YOUR CARPET BEFORE YOU USE THE 
CLEANER! All that junk would have been sucked into the vacuum which is use 
to it and not clog up the disposal. My wife reminded me that you don't pour the 
dirty water down the drain when you can pour it outside. 
Just sayin' 
Glad you're ok now. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
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Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You mean "don't buy a boat?"


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
March 4, 2017 at 7:14 PM
I thought the lesson was don't pour money down the drain?



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I thought the lesson was don't pour money down the drain?
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On March 4, 2017 5:16:40 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Yep, which one would have thought would just be common sense. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> And the moral of the story is:don't dump the stuff the vacuum
>sucks up into da insinkerator.
>> 
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> March 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM
>>> So I took the think off the sink and spotted the issue. There as a
>penny lodged down the side of the rotor which would catch on a tab in
>the rotor when it moved to that spot. It was jammed in there right.
>With a flat head screw driver, hammer, and players i got it out.
>Working great again.
>>> 
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Yep, which one would have thought would just be common sense. 

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> On Mar 4, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And the moral of the story is:don't dump the stuff the vacuum sucks up 
> into da insinkerator.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM
>> So I took the think off the sink and spotted the issue. There as a penny 
>> lodged down the side of the rotor which would catch on a tab in the rotor 
>> when it moved to that spot. It was jammed in there right. With a flat head 
>> screw driver, hammer, and players i got it out. Working great again.
>> 
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[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I know that this is not a rental property, but I remove all disposals from 
rental properties. Too much of a hassle. Always breaking and getting clogged.

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> On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And the moral of the story is:don't dump the stuff the vacuum sucks up 
> into da insinkerator.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM
>> So I took the think off the sink and spotted the issue. There as a penny 
>> lodged down the side of the rotor which would catch on a tab in the rotor 
>> when it moved to that spot. It was jammed in there right. With a flat head 
>> screw driver, hammer, and players i got it out. Working great again.
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And the moral of the story is:don't dump the stuff the vacuum sucks 
up into da insinkerator.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM
So I took the think off the sink and spotted the issue. There as a 
penny lodged down the side of the rotor which would catch on a tab in 
the rotor when it moved to that spot. It was jammed in there right. 
With a flat head screw driver, hammer, and players i got it out. 
Working great again.




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[MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I took the think off the sink and spotted the issue. There as a penny lodged 
down the side of the rotor which would catch on a tab in the rotor when it 
moved to that spot. It was jammed in there right. With a flat head screw 
driver, hammer, and players i got it out. Working great again. 

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