Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Hey, thanks Rick! I'll try to download it. Brian On 11/28/07, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manuals can be ordered here, I believe 1-866-MBCLASSIC (622-5277). > > I have attached the whole oil system PDF file from the service manual. It is > a rather large attachment (51 pages). I hope Kaleb lets it through. You can > then peruse at your leisure. > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT\ > > - Original Message - > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:38 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble > > > > Ah, that makes more sense. > > > > And also, David, this "engine job 18-005 Oil Circuit" - are you > > talking about the manual on CD or something? I don't know where to get > > my hands on one. > > > > Brian > > > > David wrote: > > Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in > > engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure > > valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. > > > > D. > > > > On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. > >> They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down > >> overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 70011.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 1186252 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071128/65bbdebe/attachment.pdf > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Manuals can be ordered here, I believe 1-866-MBCLASSIC (622-5277). I have attached the whole oil system PDF file from the service manual. It is a rather large attachment (51 pages). I hope Kaleb lets it through. You can then peruse at your leisure. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT\ - Original Message - From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble > Ah, that makes more sense. > > And also, David, this "engine job 18-005 Oil Circuit" - are you > talking about the manual on CD or something? I don't know where to get > my hands on one. > > Brian > > David wrote: > Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in > engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure > valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. > > D. > > On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. >> They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down >> overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. >> >> Peter >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 70011.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1186252 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071128/65bbdebe/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Thanks, Curt. That's the kind of info. that's helpful. You know, I actually haven't heard any tales, my hesitation is just something that came naturally to me I guess - sort of a common sense suspicion thing. But success stories of some 100k mi. are pretty good I suppose. Funny, I was just musing yesterday at how when people are selling a diesel these days, they throw in the required "biodiesel" word for marketing. But the thing that makes me chuckle is that they often say something like "been running bio for a year, and no problems!" Now, not that I'm against bio at all, but this sort of statement has two problems: 1. I would much prefer evidence that comes from maybe 10 years or at least 100k. mi.; and 2. The fact that they even mention that there are no problems suggests to me that there is some reason to talk about problems. Brian On 11/28/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You replace the O rings on the center bolt (really the shaft down the center > of the cover) not the bolt itself, total cost about $.80 IIRC. > > As to your concern about Mobil 1 I had a sarcastic comment all ready but then > realized you'd dismiss it out of hand. > Instead I'll ask you this, how many other people do you have to hear from > that have changed to synthetic oil on high mile engines with no major issues > before you'll give up on the old wives tales (really old husband tales I > guess) and give it a shot? > > Example #1 1996 Dodge Dakota ~120,000 miles at switch, leaking rear main seal > was resulting in ~1qt loss in 500 miles. I changed the Mobil 1 10w30 and > within 30,000 miles the leak had slowed to about 1qt in 1500 miles, now its > got ~210,000 miles and leaks like a qt in 2000 miles. > > Example #2 1983 MB 240D ~205,000 miles at switch, leaked ~1qt in 800 miles or > so. Switched to Mobil 1, tried 0w40, 15w50, and 5w40 over ~ 60,000 miles. > Leaked worse with 0w40, say about 1qt in 500 miles. A little better with > (surprise) 5w40, ~1qt in 900-1000 miles. 15w50 was about the same as > conventional oil. Never got any worse. Cold starts (at -20F say) were vastly > improved. Sold with ~265,000, still on the road with a new owner... > > Example #3 1985 MB 190D ~230,000 miles at switch, leaked ~1qt in 1000 miles > on the first fill with 15w50, now almost 2 years and ~50,000 miles later its > down to about 1qt in 2000-2500 miles. I'm currently using 5w40 which if I can > continue to get an adequate supply of I'll still use. This car I use LarryT's > oil analysis on and change the oil at 10,000 miles (working toward higher) > knowing its not "used up" and my engine is protected. > > > I just did a quickie spreadsheet, based on 25,000 miles a year at 10,000 mile > changes on Mobil 1 and 3,000 mile changes on conventional oil although each > change with Mobil 1 is more than 2x the cost of conventional oil my overal > cost (not including my time) is ~$50 LESS per year by using Mobil 1. > 3,000 is probably overly frequent for conventional oil, I ran the spreadsheet > again with 5,000 miles and Mobil 1 loses by $10. Take Mobil 1 out to 11,000 > miles (which I don't think is impossible) and they're dead even. Fun with > spreadsheets... > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:50:15 -0800 > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive > part. > > Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still > wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any > problems. > > Brian > > > - > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
> And also, David, this "engine job 18-005 Oil Circuit" - are you > talking about the manual on CD or something? I don't know where to get > my hands on one. I sent a PDF attachment to the list. It is the chapter of the 190d manual dealing with the oiling system. it is 1.3 mb and 51 pages long. I don't know if Kaleb will post it or not. To purchase the manuals from MBUSA call MBUSA 24/7 at 1-800-FOR-MERCedes (367-6372) and ask for a "Service CD" (or whatever it is you need) for your model. I bought mine about six months ago. If you'd like to "borrow" a back-up copy from me, let me know. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
You replace the O rings on the center bolt (really the shaft down the center of the cover) not the bolt itself, total cost about $.80 IIRC. As to your concern about Mobil 1 I had a sarcastic comment all ready but then realized you'd dismiss it out of hand. Instead I'll ask you this, how many other people do you have to hear from that have changed to synthetic oil on high mile engines with no major issues before you'll give up on the old wives tales (really old husband tales I guess) and give it a shot? Example #1 1996 Dodge Dakota ~120,000 miles at switch, leaking rear main seal was resulting in ~1qt loss in 500 miles. I changed the Mobil 1 10w30 and within 30,000 miles the leak had slowed to about 1qt in 1500 miles, now its got ~210,000 miles and leaks like a qt in 2000 miles. Example #2 1983 MB 240D ~205,000 miles at switch, leaked ~1qt in 800 miles or so. Switched to Mobil 1, tried 0w40, 15w50, and 5w40 over ~ 60,000 miles. Leaked worse with 0w40, say about 1qt in 500 miles. A little better with (surprise) 5w40, ~1qt in 900-1000 miles. 15w50 was about the same as conventional oil. Never got any worse. Cold starts (at -20F say) were vastly improved. Sold with ~265,000, still on the road with a new owner... Example #3 1985 MB 190D ~230,000 miles at switch, leaked ~1qt in 1000 miles on the first fill with 15w50, now almost 2 years and ~50,000 miles later its down to about 1qt in 2000-2500 miles. I'm currently using 5w40 which if I can continue to get an adequate supply of I'll still use. This car I use LarryT's oil analysis on and change the oil at 10,000 miles (working toward higher) knowing its not "used up" and my engine is protected. I just did a quickie spreadsheet, based on 25,000 miles a year at 10,000 mile changes on Mobil 1 and 3,000 mile changes on conventional oil although each change with Mobil 1 is more than 2x the cost of conventional oil my overal cost (not including my time) is ~$50 LESS per year by using Mobil 1. 3,000 is probably overly frequent for conventional oil, I ran the spreadsheet again with 5,000 miles and Mobil 1 loses by $10. Take Mobil 1 out to 11,000 miles (which I don't think is impossible) and they're dead even. Fun with spreadsheets... -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:50:15 -0800 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any problems. Brian - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble CAM
The same thing can happen if you overheat a engine. The head warps upwards around the centre area and causes cam bearing binding . mak - Original Message - From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble > Ticking in the 117 engines, often is due to worn camshafts. I had bad tick > on one and I spent a lot of time and money replacing lifters when the > camshaft was problem. Basically my view point is that if the 117 ticks but > does not miss at idle then don't worry about it. When it gets bad enough > to > cause drivability problems then you can worry. > > If the camshaft is the problem you will have to sort down the problem that > made camshaft go bad. For example jack legged mechanic not replacing oil > tubes correctly, bad oil pump, etc. Also if you remove the cam towers from > a > 117 be prepared to remove head and heil-core block. > > Thus there is nothing more expensive than a cheap gasser Mercedes with a > lifter tick... > > My 420SEL got so screwed up by a jack legged mechanic that I had to shim > the > cam towers such that they would not bind the camshaft too much. I can not > begin to tell you how bad they screwed it up. > > Trampas > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:58 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble > > So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming > from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper > oiling, or was collapsing or something. > > As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to > check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard > a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would > tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a > couple seconds. > > Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this > indicitive of a problem? > > Brian > 87 190D > 83 240D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1153 - Release Date: > 11/26/2007 9:08 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
David Bruckmann wrote: > > What you are looking for is o-ring 015-997-94-48, and you'll pay about > 50 cents each for the two o-rings that fit around the bottom end of the > shaft that locates the oil filter in its housing. When I ordered mine from Bimby, I got Tom on the phone and he insisted that I had to buy ten for my OM617. I've got lots of spares now. I wonder if they fit my 2.3 and OM602. Mitch. 1979 116.120 1986 201.034 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Ah, that makes more sense. And also, David, this "engine job 18-005 Oil Circuit" - are you talking about the manual on CD or something? I don't know where to get my hands on one. Brian David wrote: Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. D. On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. > They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down > overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
What you are looking for is o-ring 015-997-94-48, and you'll pay about 50 cents each for the two o-rings that fit around the bottom end of the shaft that locates the oil filter in its housing. The oil filter in most diesel MBs has two portions: a high-volume filtration (the open filter part at the bottom) which feeds the oil galleries, and a bypass portion (the top part with the small holes) that returns directly to the sump via the inside of the filter shaft. Those o-rings seal the base of the filter assembly, preventing pressure loss during running and preventing drainback after shutdown. Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. D. Zoltan Finks wrote: >Thanks. Hmm replace the center bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. > >Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still >wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any >problems. > >Brian > >On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center >> "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it >> now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the >> tappet. >> >> Peter >> >> -- David Bruckmann Systems Leader, North American Outsourcing Development & US Operations Transcontinental Printing - Newspaper Group Suite 219, 47102 Mission Falls Ct., Fremont, CA 94539 Tel +1 510-440-0198 Fax +1 510-440-0100 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Not the center bolt, the o-ring on the center bolt. I've converted all my old engines (and new ones) to Mobil 1 and not had a single problem. The one with the most miles was the SDL at 270,000. On Nov 27, 2007 8:50 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. > > Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still > wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any > problems. > > Brian -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any problems. Brian On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center > "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it > now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the > tappet. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the tappet. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Ticking in the 117 engines, often is due to worn camshafts. I had bad tick on one and I spent a lot of time and money replacing lifters when the camshaft was problem. Basically my view point is that if the 117 ticks but does not miss at idle then don't worry about it. When it gets bad enough to cause drivability problems then you can worry. If the camshaft is the problem you will have to sort down the problem that made camshaft go bad. For example jack legged mechanic not replacing oil tubes correctly, bad oil pump, etc. Also if you remove the cam towers from a 117 be prepared to remove head and heil-core block. Thus there is nothing more expensive than a cheap gasser Mercedes with a lifter tick... My 420SEL got so screwed up by a jack legged mechanic that I had to shim the cam towers such that they would not bind the camshaft too much. I can not begin to tell you how bad they screwed it up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicative of a problem? Oh no! You're going to have to sell it to me for $501! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Just a bit of rubber hose works very well too, one end on the engine, other at your ear. A monaural stethoscope! --R Tom Hargrave wrote: > This could be several things but most likely it's lifter noise. Can you get > your hands on a stethoscope? > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
This could be several things but most likely it's lifter noise. Can you get your hands on a stethoscope? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
