Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-11 Thread Larry T
Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car!  
Unfortunately it was b1ack or it would have looked better.  IMO Silver 
or while is best for a Mercedes...


Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI?

LarryT

On 8/10/2013 12:17 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

i'd get a jetta tdi wagon. jaime's dad has one


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a
big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top.  %(

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
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Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM

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  IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and

'60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to
make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when it
came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that
when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s.
(If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)

Larryt
59 VW beetle (our 1st car)


On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote:


electrical
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-11 Thread OK Don
No, but you do need to specify which one - the 2012 and later or the
earlier ones - complete re-design for 2012.

IIRC, you can get the TDI with either a normal auto tranny or the DSG dual
clutch tranny. IMHO, the DSG is just too cool. Really like mine.

I wouldn't say it is stunning - I'd say it's OK. The CC borders on
stunning, but then it's a CL knock-off.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car!  Unfortunately
 it was b1ack or it would have looked better.  IMO Silver or while is best
 for a Mercedes...

 Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI?

 LarryT





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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-11 Thread Craig
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The CC

Cruise Control?


 borders on stunning, but then it's a CL

Craig's List?


knock-off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-11 Thread OK Don
The VW  CC - their coupe, top-of-the-line.
http://www.vw.com/en/models/cc/gallery.html

Mercedes CL550, etc.  -
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/legacy/vehicles/class?class=CLbodystyle=CPE



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 On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  The CC

 Cruise Control?


  borders on stunning, but then it's a CL

 Craig's List?


 knock-off.


 Craig




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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-09 Thread Larry T
IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and 
'60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to 
make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when 
it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me 
that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 
60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)


Larryt
59 VW beetle (our 1st car)


On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote:

electrical
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-09 Thread WILTON
I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a 
big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top.  %(


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI


IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and 
'60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to 
make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when 
it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me 
that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 
60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)


Larryt
59 VW beetle (our 1st car)


On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote:

electrical
drivers seat and manual passenges seat


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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-09 Thread OK Don
Yup - that was the one issue that I couldn't resolve - it came with the
car, whether you liked it or not.

You can get fully adjustable electric seats on both sides, but have to go
up trim level or two.

My first car was a 1951 VW bug, so was my second car for that matter (had
two of them for a while).
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a
 big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top.  %(

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

 IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and
 '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to
 make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when it
 came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that
 when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s.
 (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)

 Larryt
 59 VW beetle (our 1st car)


OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-09 Thread MG
Ha, he got you pretty good. The glove compartment was on the 
right the radio in the center then the gas gauge and the speedo. 
The only place left was to cram it in to the left of the speedo. 
If I remember right the kombi had it to the right of center next 
to the radio.


Manfred

Larry T wrote:
IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and 
'60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to 
make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when 
it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me 
that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 
60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)


Larryt
59 VW beetle (our 1st car)




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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-09 Thread Gary Hurst
i'd get a jetta tdi wagon. jaime's dad has one


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a
 big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top.  %(

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI


  IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and
 '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to
 make the driver happy because they were  usually the decision maker when it
 came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that
 when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s.
 (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself)  ;-)

 Larryt
 59 VW beetle (our 1st car)


 On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote:

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[MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread WILTON
Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel 
TDI.  Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car.  No, I'm not considering one, but 
what do y'all think of 'em?
'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and 
'91 MB's.  I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit.

Wilton

  
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread WILTON

Well, I asked, then noticed y'all're already talking 'bout 'em.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:11 PM
Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI


Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat 
Diesel TDI.  Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car.  No, I'm not 
considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em?
'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 
and '91 MB's.  I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a 
bit.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other 
than for the power.

The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 
Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the 
whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom 
floor, I could barely see out the windshield...
Careful alignment got me comfortable.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC
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Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel 
TDI.  Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car.  No, I'm not considering one, but 
what do y'all think of 'em?
'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and 
'91 MB's.  I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Are they tinny and light bodied?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI
 other than for the power.

 The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a
 '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the
 ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and
 WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield...
 Careful alignment got me comfortable.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
 Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat
 Diesel TDI.  Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car.  No, I'm not considering
 one, but what do y'all think of 'em?
 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87
 and '91 MB's.  I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a
 bit.

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread OK Don
No, it doesn't feel/sopund tinny and light (Passat). It is a delight to
drive, plenty of power, decent handling (but not great). The seats are not
as comfortable as Mercedesseats are, but otherwise it's a very nice car.
They seat adjustments depend on the package level, ours (SE) has electrical
drivers seat and manual passenges seat - go figure.
The DSG tranny is also nice - a forget-about-it auto when you want that, a
manual shift when you want that, without the ability to control the clutch,
just the shifts. It's always very smooth.
Rear seat legroom rivals an SDL - truly amazing, definately more than a
short wheelbase 123/126.
No, it's not a Mercedes replacement, but it is a decent general car, and is
Diesel!!!


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Are they tinny and light bodied?





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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread WILTON

Like I said, I'm not getting one.  Former DIL is looking.
Short time I was in right front seat, couldn't find height adjust; gotta be 
one there somewhere.  I was way too low.


Wilton

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To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI


A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI 
other than for the power.


The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 
Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling 
the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, 
bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield...

Careful alignment got me comfortable.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat 
Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering 
one, but what do y'all think of 'em?
'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 
and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a 
bit.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I don't think so but really theres not much that does anymore. I think the 
Jetta feels like a 124, they still call it a compact but I can fit in the back 
seat with the seats all the way back and the trunk is cavernous.


-Curt

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:04:27 -0400
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Are they tinny and light bodied?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI
 other than for the power.

 The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a
 '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the
 ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and
 WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield...
 Careful alignment got me comfortable.

 -Curt
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