Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car! Unfortunately it was b1ack or it would have looked better. IMO Silver or while is best for a Mercedes... Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI? LarryT On 8/10/2013 12:17 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'd get a jetta tdi wagon. jaime's dad has one On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top. %( Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote: electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
No, but you do need to specify which one - the 2012 and later or the earlier ones - complete re-design for 2012. IIRC, you can get the TDI with either a normal auto tranny or the DSG dual clutch tranny. IMHO, the DSG is just too cool. Really like mine. I wouldn't say it is stunning - I'd say it's OK. The CC borders on stunning, but then it's a CL knock-off. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car! Unfortunately it was b1ack or it would have looked better. IMO Silver or while is best for a Mercedes... Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI? LarryT -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The CC Cruise Control? borders on stunning, but then it's a CL Craig's List? knock-off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
The VW CC - their coupe, top-of-the-line. http://www.vw.com/en/models/cc/gallery.html Mercedes CL550, etc. - http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/legacy/vehicles/class?class=CLbodystyle=CPE On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The CC Cruise Control? borders on stunning, but then it's a CL Craig's List? knock-off. Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote: electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top. %( Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote: electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Yup - that was the one issue that I couldn't resolve - it came with the car, whether you liked it or not. You can get fully adjustable electric seats on both sides, but have to go up trim level or two. My first car was a 1951 VW bug, so was my second car for that matter (had two of them for a while). On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top. %( Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Ha, he got you pretty good. The glove compartment was on the right the radio in the center then the gas gauge and the speedo. The only place left was to cram it in to the left of the speedo. If I remember right the kombi had it to the right of center next to the radio. Manfred Larry T wrote: IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
i'd get a jetta tdi wagon. jaime's dad has one On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top. %( Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote: electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Well, I asked, then noticed y'all're already talking 'bout 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Are they tinny and light bodied? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
No, it doesn't feel/sopund tinny and light (Passat). It is a delight to drive, plenty of power, decent handling (but not great). The seats are not as comfortable as Mercedesseats are, but otherwise it's a very nice car. They seat adjustments depend on the package level, ours (SE) has electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat - go figure. The DSG tranny is also nice - a forget-about-it auto when you want that, a manual shift when you want that, without the ability to control the clutch, just the shifts. It's always very smooth. Rear seat legroom rivals an SDL - truly amazing, definately more than a short wheelbase 123/126. No, it's not a Mercedes replacement, but it is a decent general car, and is Diesel!!! On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Are they tinny and light bodied? -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Like I said, I'm not getting one. Former DIL is looking. Short time I was in right front seat, couldn't find height adjust; gotta be one there somewhere. I was way too low. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
I don't think so but really theres not much that does anymore. I think the Jetta feels like a 124, they still call it a compact but I can fit in the back seat with the seats all the way back and the trunk is cavernous. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:04:27 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: CAC35L=srLwwon07PnqWMn1tTYE=4XPFzxotE5Dp_2=gxa69...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Are they tinny and light bodied? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com