Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 20:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> True, but I don’t like beating on the rear hubs or rotors too hard for 
> fear it will cause issues with rear bearings.

Another good reason to avoid "discount" brake shops.


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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 01:21:18 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> True, but I don’t like beating on the rear hubs or rotors too hard for
> fear it will cause issues with rear bearings.

Impact Brinelling is no fun ...


Craig


> > On Dec 9, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > If at first you don't succeed get a bigger hammer.
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 19:24, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >> might makes right

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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
True, but I don’t like beating on the rear hubs or rotors too hard for fear it 
will cause issues with rear bearings.

-D

> On Dec 9, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If at first you don't succeed get a bigger hammer.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 19:24, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> might makes right
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 6:40 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k
>>> on the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads
>>> for a whopping $160 total. Nice!
>>> 
>>> Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to
>>> come loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could
>>> with the proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back
>>> together.
>>> 
>>> Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my
>>> nearby HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.
>>> 
>>> Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for
>>> about 30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of
>>> the rotor and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around
>>> the hub and on the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped
>>> loose at one side and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the
>>> pads, pressing the piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction
>>> points, etc., etc.
>>> 
>>> Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was
>>> more or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything
>>> with the “majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again,
>>> with the pry bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all
>>> the bits out, pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.
>>> 
>>> I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the
>>> HF hydraulic puller...
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If at first you don't succeed get a bigger hammer.

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 19:24, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> might makes right
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 6:40 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k
>> on the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads
>> for a whopping $160 total. Nice!
>>
>> Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to
>> come loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could
>> with the proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back
>> together.
>>
>> Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my
>> nearby HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.
>>
>> Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for
>> about 30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of
>> the rotor and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around
>> the hub and on the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped
>> loose at one side and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the
>> pads, pressing the piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction
>> points, etc., etc.
>>
>> Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was
>> more or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything
>> with the “majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again,
>> with the pry bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all
>> the bits out, pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and
>> installed.
>>
>> Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.
>>
>> I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the
>> HF hydraulic puller...
>>
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
might makes right

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 6:40 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k
> on the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads
> for a whopping $160 total. Nice!
>
> Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to
> come loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could
> with the proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back
> together.
>
> Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my
> nearby HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.
>
> Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for
> about 30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of
> the rotor and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around
> the hub and on the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped
> loose at one side and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the
> pads, pressing the piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction
> points, etc., etc.
>
> Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was
> more or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything
> with the “majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again,
> with the pry bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all
> the bits out, pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and
> installed.
>
> Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.
>
> I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the
> HF hydraulic puller...
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Sehr gut!!
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2023, at 6:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k 
> on the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads 
> for a whopping $160 total. Nice!
> 
> Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to 
> come loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could 
> with the proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back 
> together.
> 
> Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my nearby 
> HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.
> 
> Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for 
> about 30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of 
> the rotor and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around the 
> hub and on the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped loose 
> at one side and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the pads, 
> pressing the piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction points, etc., 
> etc.
> 
> Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was more 
> or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything with 
> the “majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again, with the 
> pry bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all the bits 
> out, pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and installed.
> 
> Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.
> 
> I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the HF 
> hydraulic puller...
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

2023-12-09 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k on 
the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads for a 
whopping $160 total. Nice!

Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to come 
loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could with the 
proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back together.

Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my nearby 
HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.

Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for about 
30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of the rotor 
and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around the hub and on 
the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped loose at one side 
and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the pads, pressing the 
piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction points, etc., etc.

Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was more 
or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything with the 
“majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again, with the pry 
bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all the bits out, 
pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and installed.

Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.

I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the HF 
hydraulic puller...

-D
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