Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
New seal will be ordered right away, It's worth it. Thanks . Ralph On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Hopefully you get a seal that has not aged on the shelve for the last 20 years. I got a hood pad that fell apart within a month. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: New seal will be ordered right away, It's worth it. Thanks . Ralph On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, Use weatherstrip cement. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Don't cheap out. Get a new one. The glue isn't there to keep the water out, though it will if you use glue on the top and bottom of the old seal and glue the trunk shut. :-) It's kind of like a garden hose which has a rubber washer to seal the connection against leaks. IF the connection isn't tight enough the rubber washer will leak even if you take it out and glue it in on one surface. Tighten the connection and the leak stops even without the glue. The pressure of the rubber between the metal of the lid and the frame is what keeps the water out and if it isn't enough, water will seep through like it is now because the old seal has taken a set since it's been sitting in the squished closed position for the last 20 or 30 years. New rubber has more resistance against compression thus making the seal tighter which will keep water out better. Manfred Ralph Robertson wrote: checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
My guess would be that the old seal will be fine unless it appears deformed. My car has the same issue. The trunk seal is there but is not glued in at all. I am guessing the previous owner got a new seal when the car was painted but never got to installing it properly. I have not yet glued it in for a number of reasons including prorcastination. The other reason is that there is a spot that needs a touch up of paint. I need to remove the rubber and sand and paint a spot that shows surface rusting before I glue the thing in. So long as I keep it properly arranged, it seems to be fine but if I open and close the trunk a few times without checking it, then it seems to creep a bit and I get leaking into the trunk. So, in my case I think the seal will be fine and I am guessing the same for you unless there is something visibly wrong with the seal. Randy On 29/07/2013 2:01 PM, MG wrote: Don't cheap out. Get a new one. The glue isn't there to keep the water out, though it will if you use glue on the top and bottom of the old seal and glue the trunk shut. :-) It's kind of like a garden hose which has a rubber washer to seal the connection against leaks. IF the connection isn't tight enough the rubber washer will leak even if you take it out and glue it in on one surface. Tighten the connection and the leak stops even without the glue. The pressure of the rubber between the metal of the lid and the frame is what keeps the water out and if it isn't enough, water will seep through like it is now because the old seal has taken a set since it's been sitting in the squished closed position for the last 20 or 30 years. New rubber has more resistance against compression thus making the seal tighter which will keep water out better. Manfred Ralph Robertson wrote: checked trunk seal, appeared good, however it was easily removed, and pulled out of groove without any difficulty, so it would seem that it is not sealed good enough for water. Wondering if I have to remove old glue on the rubber before applying a coat of the flowable silicon sealant, and if so, how would I remove that glue without damaging the seal/rubber. There are no cracks or tears in the rubber seal and it appears in good shape so should be able to simply re-glue and install again. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
thanks, will have the seal checked carefully. The water seems to come in at the top of the trunk, right across the whole trunk. Possibly even from the ledge under the window, but it could be running from the trunk lid across to this ledge. Will check it out. Ralph On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Check your trunk seal. Clean it well, make sure it is not cracked or broken where it attaches to the lip. --R On 7/26/13 10:04 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leaking into trunk- '87 300SDL
Possibly the rear drains of the sunroof are plugged. Manfred Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:04:23 -0400 From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com I have an '87 300SDL that has a peculiar leak in the trunk area. When the car is on a grade, with the trunk on the downhill and it rains hard, the trunk get wet. However, if it is on the grade with the trunk on the uphill, no water gets in regardless of how hard it rains. Does this sound familiar to any of you?? I tried putting some flowable sealant around the back window, but that did not help. Thanks Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
