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Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, as far as i can tell, coaster brakes are just drum brakes Except when they call them drum brakes, they're a lot more than 2 in diameter. Gary Hurst wrote: 25 is only like an inch wide then. or i'm missing something. like, ok, the old 10 speed size from teh 70s was 27x1 1/4. how does that translate to your 700x sizes? 700x32 is the new 27 x 1 1/4. (well, it was new in 1980) I've still got 27s on my 1974 Maino. When I bought it in 1982, I took off the huge Weinmann centerpulls and put 57mm Shimano 600 brakes on it. Had to extend the rear brake slots a little to get the shoes to line up with the rim as it is, no way I could make normal brakes work with 700 rims on that bike. The last of my old 27 x 1 1/8 tires finally cracked and I had to buy new tires for the first time since the 1990s this year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe. IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making 700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire. Also, the tire rubber is thinner and stronger than older tech. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi) On 8/15/2013 5:04 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: 700x32 is the new 27 x 1 1/4. (well, it was new in 1980) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Benz Hogs wrote: Maybe. IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making 700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire. Also, the tire rubber is thinner and stronger than older tech. Really? The tires I bought in the 1980s and 1990s were 66 tpi (Specialized Touring II) and up. Seems like the affordable tires today have heavier casing thread. The Vittoria Zaffiros I got from Nashbar a couple of months ago have thicker rubber in the center than any road tire I used to buy, and I got the idea the casing was coarser than 66tpi. Are you saying that something like a Continental GP is thinner than a GP from 20 years ago? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe the only old tires I've dealt with were cheap and didn't use a high TPI or good quality rubber. Most of the tires I'm running now are 120TPI which ends up being very comfortable. This is probably why I thought older tires didn't use the higher TPI of current tech. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi) On 8/15/2013 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Benz Hogs wrote: Maybe. IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making 700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire. Also, the tire rubber is thinner and stronger than older tech. Really? The tires I bought in the 1980s and 1990s were 66 tpi (Specialized Touring II) and up. Seems like the affordable tires today have heavier casing thread. The Vittoria Zaffiros I got from Nashbar a couple of months ago have thicker rubber in the center than any road tire I used to buy, and I got the idea the casing was coarser than 66tpi. Are you saying that something like a Continental GP is thinner than a GP from 20 years ago? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It is also a necessity for riding asshatchetseat road bikes, and much more comfy on the mtb too. --R (helmet jackass, but not a seat soreass) On 8/13/13 10:46 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: I do look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper on a regular basis when I'm riding for exercise, i.e. training for racing this fall. When you sweat, you are glad to wear spandex and not have sweat soaked heavy clothes flapping around. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim wrote: My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof. All my life my 1938 vintage Chicago Schwinn has been nearly theft-proof. These days I kinda wonder. Several months ago I saw a website that showed modern equipment using the frame I have. I ride my bike to get there also, no race clothing, etc. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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with new departure hub! On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Jim wrote: My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof. All my life my 1938 vintage Chicago Schwinn has been nearly theft-proof. These days I kinda wonder. Several months ago I saw a website that showed modern equipment using the frame I have. I ride my bike to get there also, no race clothing, etc. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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drfatty wrote: with new departure hub! Add - historic new departure hub, the one with 20 plates for squeezing together for coaster brakes. Modern coaster brakes have shoes that squeeze the inside of the hub. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, as far as i can tell, coaster brakes are just drum brakes On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: drfatty wrote: with new departure hub! Add - historic new departure hub, the one with 20 plates for squeezing together for coaster brakes. Modern coaster brakes have shoes that squeeze the inside of the hub. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts. Not everyone likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper between their legs I _never_ will understand the bike subculture. You mean you _want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper? In spandex with a racing stripe? When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks. I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I get there. My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I do look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper on a regular basis when I'm riding for exercise, i.e. training for racing this fall. When you sweat, you are glad to wear spandex and not have sweat soaked heavy clothes flapping around. When I'm riding to/from work or a clients, I'm wearing normal clothes or business casual. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi) On 8/13/2013 9:38 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts. Not everyone likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper between their legs I _never_ will understand the bike subculture. You mean you _want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper? In spandex with a racing stripe? When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks. I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I get there. My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the late 70s jap bike was my first love. they are GREAT!!! On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts. Not everyone likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper between their legs I _never_ will understand the bike subculture. You mean you _want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper? In spandex with a racing stripe? When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks. I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I get there. My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the late 70s jap bike was my first love. they are GREAT!!! I sure like mine. Go-anywhere, so long as it's paved. I've ridden it waist-deep through flood waters, etc. Just keeps going. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i've had fuji, panasonic and bridgestone from 70s and 80s and really liked. today i'm all into trek though On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: the late 70s jap bike was my first love. they are GREAT!!! I sure like mine. Go-anywhere, so long as it's paved. I've ridden it waist-deep through flood waters, etc. Just keeps going. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the late 70s jap bike was my first love. they are GREAT!!! Late 70's Jap guitars are really excellent also. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yes, they are. i remember at the time making fun of some kid for getting a japan made fender strat but it turns out be a really good guitar. ibanez had some really nice guitars too. i even like the teiscos of a decade earlier, or at least some of them of more recent vintage, i've had good luck with korean guitars, particularly a couple of epiphones and a samick bass. sadly, i play guitar as well as a i ride a bicycle, but that doesn't mean i don't appreciate good value in both! On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the late 70s jap bike was my first love. they are GREAT!!! Late 70's Jap guitars are really excellent also. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
