Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
Peter Frederick wrote: Delvac 1 is preferable to the others if you can find it, at least for diesels. I use Mobile 1 15W50 for summer use, 5W50 most of the time for winter, I have been doing about four oil changes a year lately with the milage I'm accumulating. 6000 mile intervals work fine with a filter each change so far -- car runs like a top at 234,000 miles and starts instantly, doesn't use more than a quart in 6000 miles. Peter While Delvac 1 (Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is an identical blend except for a boron marker) is clearly the premium diesel rated full synthetic oil, but unless you intend to use extended change intervals (more then 30kmi) you will find virtually no advantage compared to the CF rated Mobil 1 varieties. It is only at extreme change intervals that the exceptional properties of Delvac 1 become important. It is NOT (in MY opinion) worth the premium price (~$7/qt) compared to Mobil 1 Truck and SUV ($5.50/qt) or other Mobil 1 blends. Best value recently is 5 qt bottles of M-1 TSUV at Wal-Mart for ~$20. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
While we're on the subject Marshall, do you have any words about ELF synthetic oil? My indie (VW and MB born and bred) put ELF Excellium DID 5w30 in my Golf TDI. I see ELF has a wide range of diesel oils. He only uses ELF oils in the VW's he services. I don't know what he uses in the MB diesels he takes care of. http://www.elf.com/live/wex/lub/lubroot.nsf/VS_OPM/3C44780A936138B4C1256E7F0043CBA4?OpenDocument Click on Engine from Range of Products list. FWIW, I can't get ELF products at any local store that I know of, but Mobil 1 15w50 is easily available. For some reason 5w40 is not. I've yet to see that one at all. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Delvac 1 is preferable to the others if you can find it, at least for diesels. I use Mobile 1 15W50 for summer use, 5W50 most of the time for winter, I have been doing about four oil changes a year lately with the milage I'm accumulating. 6000 mile intervals work fine with a filter each change so far -- car runs like a top at 234,000 miles and starts instantly, doesn't use more than a quart in 6000 miles. Peter While Delvac 1 (Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is an identical blend except for a boron marker) is clearly the premium diesel rated full synthetic oil, but unless you intend to use extended change intervals (more then 30kmi) you will find virtually no advantage compared to the CF rated Mobil 1 varieties. It is only at extreme change intervals that the exceptional properties of Delvac 1 become important. It is NOT (in MY opinion) worth the premium price (~$7/qt) compared to Mobil 1 Truck and SUV ($5.50/qt) or other Mobil 1 blends. Best value recently is 5 qt bottles of M-1 TSUV at Wal-Mart for ~$20. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
TimothyPilgrim wrote: While we're on the subject Marshall, do you have any words about ELF synthetic oil? My indie (VW and MB born and bred) put ELF Excellium DID 5w30 in my Golf TDI. I see ELF has a wide range of diesel oils. He only uses ELF oils in the VW's he services. I don't know what he uses in the MB diesels he takes care of. http://www.elf.com/live/wex/lub/lubroot.nsf/VS_OPM/3C44780A936138B4C1256E7F0043CBA4?OpenDocument Click on Engine from Range of Products list. FWIW, I can't get ELF products at any local store that I know of, but Mobil 1 15w50 is easily available. For some reason 5w40 is not. I've yet to see that one at all. I have NO experience with it. I'm told they make some good oil. I have not found any xW-30 oil that's been satisfactory for my diesels and won't go looking for one as long as Mobil keeps selling Delvac 1 or M-1 TSUV. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available. I have been using the Mobil 1 15-50 extended service for over 100K with no problems. I will swith to 5-40 Mobile one next time only because I can now get it. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions! Hi team Thanks for the discussion on synthetic oils and for your patience in answering the same questions again and again. Down here in the colonies, the only Mobil synthetic oils available are Mobil 1 5W-50 Mobil 1 0W-40 Mobil 1 10W-30 Mobil 1 15W-50 Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available. Being a bear of relatively little engineering brain, my reading of the information in both www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html and www.mobil.co.nz suggests that only Mobil 1 5W-50 would be suitable for my 1985 300TD (engine 617.912). It meets MB spec 229.3 and does not require a fleece filter (whatever that is). So, am I correct in assuming that (a) this is the oil for me? (b) the standard MB oil filter will do the trick? (c) I can expect longer change intervals? (d) if yes to (c), I can change the oil and filter every 6000 miles (double existing interval) ? 9000 miles (treble)? Given that sale-price Mobil 1 5W-50 costs approx $NZ 12.50 per litre -- more than twice the price of discounted Shell Helix Diesel ($NZ 5.00 per litre) -- I'd have to double the change interval to break even. I suppose the saving in filter costs would help ($NZ 30 a filter), and long-term, the engine would be better off. Any advice would be appreciated. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 199K miles 1990 Toyota Hilux D/cab 4WD 139K km ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch 8006 New Zealand Phone +64 3 980 5712 Cellphone 027 326 3245 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
