Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond
32 was the average over only the first 6,000 miles of ownership. That includes 
a tank at 28mpg when I was fighting with summer fuel when I first bought it, so 
there was alot of driving up and down my apartment complex street in 1st to get 
the fuel warmed up. Then another tank at 26mpg when my Indy was replacing seals 
in the IP.
  So more recent tanks are much closer to 38, my rough calculation of today's 
fillup is 37, It'll probably end up a little low, I put in a quart of motor oil 
as a tonic when the tank was nearly empty. I'll put it and the two before it 
into my spreadsheet tonight and see what that does to the average.
  I'm also blowing out ALOT of crud from the previous owner. I've had those 
instances where I left a huge smokescreen. Second oil change on my watch should 
be this weekend assuming the filter arrives in time.
   
  -Curt
  '85 190D Dory 241kmi
   
  Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:28:40 -0400
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 Is that all? I'd hoped for better since I'd been thinking of building 
one someday. My 240D would average around 28mpg but that was almost 
exclusively highway driving 80-90 miles a day. 

   My 190D is averaging only a little better at around 32mpg but that 
includes so bad tanks while it was leaking fuel dragging the average 
down. I've only just gotten myself out of the habit of driving with the 
pedal to the floor which in most cases the 190D doesn't need. I'm also 
trying to decrease my average speed which should increase mileage.

   -Curt

Is your 190D an automatic? 32 is really quite poor unless it all city 
driving. I ALWAYS drive my 190D 2.x s (5 spd or auto) with the pedal to 
the floor!! That make remarkably little difference. Highway speeds much 
above 60 will lower mileage, but on the highway my auto always did 
better than 35 and the 5 spds better than 38.. It took a year or more 
(20+kmi) after I switched to synthetic oil before they got there 
though! 
Had to blow out all the crud that was left from the previous owners I 
guess.

Marshall
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In a message dated 6/22/2006 6:21:47 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
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The air  is not really getting warmer and I can still hear the blower
motor running,  but I am not getting good flow from the center vents.
The symptom has not  repeated itself in over a week.  Perhaps it was just
too hot and I was  pushing it too hard. 



Donald,
 
This is purely a vacuum storage problem, could even be normal if your time  
on the hill exceeds the volume of vacuum storage.  Gas engines do not  create 
much vacuum with the throttle open like you are likely to have it on the  hill. 
 The AC ducting default is defrost with no vacuum, so you will feel  the air 
discharge moving to the defrost outlets.  I think it is a two stage  actuator 
so it may not shift 100% to defrost in the condition you  describe.  A small 
vacuum leak in the storage circuit could shorten your

Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-22 Thread Peter Frederick
PIddling about at low speed carbons things up pretty badly on a 601, 
and a full throttle run will blow out all the loose stuff, pretty 
spectacular if it's been a while.  Most of it is probably loose soot in 
the exhaust.


My personal tonic these days is some contaminated fuel I add a quart 
or so of per tank -- one of my colleague's wife filled her car up with 
diesel fuel a couple years ago, so he was stuck with the ten gallons or 
so of gasoline with diesel in it.  Not enough to prevent the car from 
running (poorly!), and it burns in the lawn mowers, but not well 
(carbon fouls the plugs, smokes).  A bit in a full tank of fuel and the 
300D just purrs!


Peter




Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Peter Frederick wrote:
PIddling about at low speed carbons things up pretty badly on a 601, 
and a full throttle run will blow out all the loose stuff, pretty 
spectacular if it's been a while.  Most of it is probably loose soot in 
the exhaust.


My personal tonic these days is some contaminated fuel I add a quart 
or so of per tank -- one of my colleague's wife filled her car up with 
diesel fuel a couple years ago, so he was stuck with the ten gallons or 
so of gasoline with diesel in it.  Not enough to prevent the car from 
running (poorly!), and it burns in the lawn mowers, but not well 
(carbon fouls the plugs, smokes).  A bit in a full tank of fuel and the 
300D just purrs!


The one benefit of filling your diesel's tank with a few gallons of 
gasoline is that it sure cleans out the fuel system and injection pump!!


Not good to do it often, but a shot every few years is likely to do some 
good and is unlikely to cause much harm.


Personally, I prefer a qt of conventional 10W-30 oil.

Marshall
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  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)




Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-22 Thread Peter Frederick

Marshal:

Motor oil is rather to have the solvent effect of gasoline, and I 
rather suspect the gas just makes the fuel easier to ignite (i.e. 
raises the Cetane index a bit).  After all, we are talking a quart or 
less in a full 20 gal tank, and it's not all gasoline.


I don't want to put more in, as Benz does not recommend adding gasoline 
to the tank in the 60x series.  This may simply be that winter fuel 
isn't so hard to come by at the appropriate times of year or that 
additives are better, I don't know -- it is possible that a large 
amount of gasoline will damage the IP, something I definitely want to 
avoid!


Peter




Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:09:15 -0700 W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I can milk 30 MPG, but more realistic is 29 MPG on the road and
 between 22-25 in town. Plus the best and quietest ride in town :-)

I can do maybe 25 in our '82 240D/3.0. Maybe I need to start looking at
something newer.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] **wiring harness on the W140 Diesel **

2006-06-21 Thread Marshall Booth

Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that all? I'd hoped for better since I'd been thinking of building one someday. My 240D would average around 28mpg but that was almost exclusively highway driving 80-90 miles a day. 
   
  My 190D is averaging only a little better at around 32mpg but that includes so bad tanks while it was leaking fuel dragging the average down. I've only just gotten myself out of the habit of driving with the pedal to the floor which in most cases the 190D doesn't need. I'm also trying to decrease my average speed which should increase mileage.
   
  -Curt


Is your 190D an automatic? 32 is really quite poor unless it all city 
driving. I ALWAYS drive my 190D 2.x s (5 spd or auto) with the pedal to 
the floor!! That make remarkably little difference. Highway speeds much 
above 60 will lower mileage, but on the highway my auto always did 
better than 35 and the 5 spds better than 38.. It took a year or more 
(20+kmi) after I switched to synthetic oil before they got there though! 
Had to blow out all the crud that was left from the previous owners I guess.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)