Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
John Ervine wrote: Yeah, that's one of the things I'm looking into when I take the plunge for the manual conversion on my '80 300TD, getting the driveshaft rebuilt and the old rear half and new front half balanced as a unit. I've got a line on what I've heard is a great shop here in Atlanta, so maybe I'll luck out. D.S.L. of Atlanta (404-361-9111) advertises in the Star and I've heard several GOOD and no BAD comments. There's also a shop in Portland OR (Driveline Service of Portland 1-800-227-8608). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:04:29 -0500 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Ervine wrote: Yeah, that's one of the things I'm looking into when I take the plunge for the manual conversion on my '80 300TD, getting the driveshaft rebuilt and the old rear half and new front half balanced as a unit. I've got a line on what I've heard is a great shop here in Atlanta, so maybe I'll luck out. D.S.L. of Atlanta (404-361-9111) advertises in the Star and I've heard several GOOD and no BAD comments. There's also a shop in Portland OR (Driveline Service of Portland 1-800-227-8608). I used D.S.L. of Atlanta when I converted our car. The driveshaft came with a right-behind-the-front-flex-joint balancer that was dead. DSL balanced it without the balancer and it's worked fine. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Curt Raymond wrote: So my Indy tells me (this is a heck of a Christmas present) that theres a rubber balancing deal on the driveshaft which is bad on my car. He says that he can't buy the part separately and an entire driveshaft is over $1k. So the question is can I use a driveshaft off a 190E for my '85 190D 2.2l? I have a 87 2.5 turbo that isn't going far under its own power again (rt front suspension destroyed in a crash) Don't know if it would help you or not. I suppose I should get the diesel running in its new home before I get rid of too many parts.
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
huh? Thats a new one one me. The only rubber part I know about is either the flex disks or the center support. Both are quire replaceable and available seperate. Curt Raymond wrote: So my Indy tells me (this is a heck of a Christmas present) that theres a rubber balancing deal on the driveshaft which is bad on my car. He says that he can't buy the part separately and an entire driveshaft is over $1k. So the question is can I use a driveshaft off a 190E for my '85 190D 2.2l? Kaleb, any w201 driveshafts? Thanks -Curt '83 240D Hammie 250kmi '85 190D 233kmi - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: huh? Thats a new one one me. The only rubber part I know about is either the flex disks or the center support. Both are quire replaceable and available seperate. Curt Raymond wrote: So my Indy tells me (this is a heck of a Christmas present) that theres a rubber balancing deal on the driveshaft which is bad on my car. He says that he can't buy the part separately and an entire driveshaft is over $1k. So the question is can I use a driveshaft off a 190E for my '85 190D 2.2l? Take it from me Kaleb, 201 5 speeds have a unique balancing disc right behind the front flex disc. It balances the driveshaft. It is NOT sold separately. If the disc fails, Mercedes requires that you buy a NEW front half of the driveshaft and balance disc or a complete new driveshaft with disc. You CAN buy just the disc for manual or automatic 124 driveshaft, or for a 201 automatic driveshaft, but NOT for a 201 5 speed (not sure about a manual 4 speed)! THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Marshall Booth wrote: Take it from me Kaleb, 201 5 speeds have a unique balancing disc right behind the front flex disc. It balances the driveshaft. It is NOT sold separately. If the disc fails, Mercedes requires that you buy a NEW front half of the driveshaft and balance disc or a complete new driveshaft with disc. You CAN buy just the disc for manual or automatic 124 driveshaft, or for a 201 automatic driveshaft, but NOT for a 201 5 speed (not sure about a manual 4 speed)! Marshall's got it right. I've even seen one on the front half shaft of a Euro w123 wagon with 4-spd. Interestingly, the front half shaft eventually destined to go into my car does not have the rubber balancing disc, and never did as best as I can tell. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
learn something new everyday. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: huh? Thats a new one one me. The only rubber part I know about is either the flex disks or the center support. Both are quire replaceable and available seperate. Curt Raymond wrote: So my Indy tells me (this is a heck of a Christmas present) that theres a rubber balancing deal on the driveshaft which is bad on my car. He says that he can't buy the part separately and an entire driveshaft is over $1k. So the question is can I use a driveshaft off a 190E for my '85 190D 2.2l? Take it from me Kaleb, 201 5 speeds have a unique balancing disc right behind the front flex disc. It balances the driveshaft. It is NOT sold separately. If the disc fails, Mercedes requires that you buy a NEW front half of the driveshaft and balance disc or a complete new driveshaft with disc. You CAN buy just the disc for manual or automatic 124 driveshaft, or for a 201 automatic driveshaft, but NOT for a 201 5 speed (not sure about a manual 4 speed)! THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
John Ervine wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: Take it from me Kaleb, 201 5 speeds have a unique balancing disc right behind the front flex disc. It balances the driveshaft. It is NOT sold separately. If the disc fails, Mercedes requires that you buy a NEW front half of the driveshaft and balance disc or a complete new driveshaft with disc. You CAN buy just the disc for manual or automatic 124 driveshaft, or for a 201 automatic driveshaft, but NOT for a 201 5 speed (not sure about a manual 4 speed)! Marshall's got it right. I've even seen one on the front half shaft of a Euro w123 wagon with 4-spd. Interestingly, the front half shaft eventually destined to go into my car does not have the rubber balancing disc, and never did as best as I can tell. The problem is that these discs are used to balance a particular driveshaft. If your's doesn't need one and some don't - that's GREAT, but a driveshaft that's really out of balance will be intolerable (with vibrations - sometimes really nasty - usually between 40-50 mph). One of the driveshaft shops that specializes in Mercedes (most can't do them), can usually make them tolerable, but it will NEVER be the way Mercedes balanced it at the factory. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Kaleb typed: learn something new everyday That's why we're here. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 145K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Marshall Booth wrote: The problem is that these discs are used to balance a particular driveshaft. If your's doesn't need one and some don't - that's GREAT, but a driveshaft that's really out of balance will be intolerable (with vibrations - sometimes really nasty - usually between 40-50 mph). One of the driveshaft shops that specializes in Mercedes (most can't do them), can usually make them tolerable, but it will NEVER be the way Mercedes balanced it at the factory. Yeah, that's one of the things I'm looking into when I take the plunge for the manual conversion on my '80 300TD, getting the driveshaft rebuilt and the old rear half and new front half balanced as a unit. I've got a line on what I've heard is a great shop here in Atlanta, so maybe I'll luck out. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
