Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net I have heard it recommended that an input filter be used on formerly-shrapnelled systems. The flush isn't always quite good enough. -- Jim Read that too but couldn't find a source for the filters http://auto-air-compressor.com/in-line-filter.html http://www.ackits.com/c/inlinefilters/Universal+In-line+Filters.html http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300DT/A-C-Inline-Filter-Kit/_/N-ius9lZ91u1a?searchText=Inline%2520ac%2520filter http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008PKUTYY/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=138034sr=8-9pi=AC_SX110_SY165 http://www.autoacforum.com/messageview.cfm?catid=2threadid=10431 Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Aug 29, 2013, at 07:25 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I found this site that has the ES-12a 6 oz. cans for $8.00 each. They have other amounts and sizes available as well. Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Buy it directly from manufacturer: http://www.es-refrigerants.com/ Use the industrial ES-12. You won't be disappointed. On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Mike Esh wrote: Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Aug 29, 2013, at 07:25 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I found this site that has the ES-12a 6 oz. cans for $8.00 each. They have other amounts and sizes available as well. Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products: Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm I don't know the answer as to how many cans you would need. Perhaps you should call them with information about the capacities of your car's system. The usual approach involves reaching certain pressures as measured by a set of gauges. I ordered from them a year or two ago. I got the R-12 top up kit described at the bottom of the page at the above address. My Porsche 968 had gradually lost R-12 over a 20 year period - the sight glass was showing just occasional foam and the cooling barely perceptible. I added a can of stopleak and one can of their ES-12. Bubbles in the sight glass ceased and the cooling came back. Still working well. I had read good things about ES products at www.968forums.com . As I recall there were some oddities about the ES refrigerant. At least at one time they were not recommending it for a complete refill nor did they recommend pulling a vacuum on the system. Again, calling them about your situation probably would be best. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Look thy last on all things lovely,every hour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Does anyone have any experience with their ES502 replacement for R-22? I suspect this is a propane mix of some sort? I'm going to ask my former neighbor about this, as he's an engineer who works with commercial AC systems but has done some hacks on his home system... Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:21 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products: Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm I don't know the answer as to how many cans you would need. Perhaps you should call them with information about the capacities of your car's system. The usual approach involves reaching certain pressures as measured by a set of gauges. I ordered from them a year or two ago. I got the R-12 top up kit described at the bottom of the page at the above address. My Porsche 968 had gradually lost R-12 over a 20 year period - the sight glass was showing just occasional foam and the cooling barely perceptible. I added a can of stopleak and one can of their ES-12. Bubbles in the sight glass ceased and the cooling came back. Still working well. I had read good things about ES products at www.968forums.com . As I recall there were some oddities about the ES refrigerant. At least at one time they were not recommending it for a complete refill nor did they recommend pulling a vacuum on the system. Again, calling them about your situation probably would be best. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Look thy last on all things lovely,every hour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net I have heard it recommended that an input filter be used on formerly-shrapnelled systems. The flush isn't always quite good enough. -- Jim Read that too but couldn't find a source for the filters. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Yes, I am interested.. Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: R-12 is available if you're interested. Remove the [MBZ] from the subject line and drop me an email if you wish. From: Michael Esh michael...@mac.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The coldest temp I could get from my system was 42 degrees from the outside vents. I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jon Agne wrote: SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just another example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
The scuttlebutt a couple years ago was that reman R4 compressors weren't worth the trouble. Are you running R12 or R134A? R-12 uses mineral oil, which is benign. There is an issue with one type of oil used with 134 which kills AC systems fast. As I recall, it generates acid when it meets H2O. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
You want a brand new one not rebuilt when dealing with the r4 compressor. On 8/27/2013 5:04 PM, Michael Esh wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6613 - Release Date: 08/27/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
R134a On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The scuttlebutt a couple years ago was that reman R4 compressors weren't worth the trouble. Are you running R12 or R134A? R-12 uses mineral oil, which is benign. There is an issue with one type of oil used with 134 which kills AC systems fast. As I recall, it generates acid when it meets H2O. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
the rebuilts are awful and ubiquitous behr unit is crappy. i tend to sell the ones that are made by the guys who bought the delco tooling On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The scuttlebutt a couple years ago was that reman R4 compressors weren't worth the trouble. Are you running R12 or R134A? R-12 uses mineral oil, which is benign. There is an issue with one type of oil used with 134 which kills AC systems fast. As I recall, it generates acid when it meets H2O. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just anotehr example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i don't even know if anyone is even selling rebuilt R4s anymore as those ALL failed in a hurry On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You want a brand new one not rebuilt when dealing with the r4 compressor. On 8/27/2013 5:04 PM, Michael Esh wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6613 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
How much are they? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the rebuilts are awful and ubiquitous behr unit is crappy. i tend to sell the ones that are made by the guys who bought the delco tooling On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The scuttlebutt a couple years ago was that reman R4 compressors weren't worth the trouble. Are you running R12 or R134A? R-12 uses mineral oil, which is benign. There is an issue with one type of oil used with 134 which kills AC systems fast. As I recall, it generates acid when it meets H2O. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just anotehr example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The coldest temp I could get from my system was 42 degrees from the outside vents. I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jon Agne wrote: SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just another example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I changed a center vent vac pod on a 79 TD without removing the dash. It wasn't fun and I got lots of cuts and scrapes on my hands and arms. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The coldest temp I could get from my system was 42 degrees from the outside vents. I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jon Agne wrote: SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just another example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Jon used *ES-12* and *Industrial ES-12*. It is butane/propane mix that Jim Cathey uses. http://www.es-refrigerants.com/ http://www.es-refrigerants.com/resources/faq/ http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0081T3PP4 Cheapest to buy factory direct, I would think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Jon used *ES-12* and *Industrial ES-12*. It is butane/propane mix that Jim Cathey uses. It appears that they call it r-134a replacement now. Understandable, considering r12 hasn't been used in two decades now. It is the same as ES12. You can email or call them for details. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What Rick said! My system had been changed over (half-a** job) by the prior owner. R-134a was in the system, the low pressure conx was 134, but the hi press conx was still r-12. Go figure. I was never happy with the AC before the compressor died so I decided to change back to R-12.. In the meantime, I learned about Enviro-safe products. Use the Industrial ES-12. It really does make a difference, and cools much better than the 134a or plain ES-12. The drawback is that it has to be shipped as hazmat. I think it's worth it. R-12 is good also, but it's WAY . Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Michael Esh wrote: The coldest temp I could get from my system was 42 degrees from the outside vents. I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jon Agne wrote: SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just another example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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By the way, I have a bunch of emails dating back to 2006 regarding Mercedes A/C systems in my archives. I can forward them to you if you want. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Rick. The more knowledge I have the more dangerous I become. Please send them along at your convenience. Mike Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: By the way, I have a bunch of emails dating back to 2006 regarding Mercedes A/C systems in my archives. I can forward them to you if you want. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Thanks Rick. The more knowledge I have the more dangerous I become. Please send them along at your convenience. I will attempt to put them in a zip file and send them or maybe put them in my public DropBox folder. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R-12 is available if you're interested. Remove the [MBZ] from the subject line and drop me an email if you wish. From: Michael Esh michael...@mac.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning The coldest temp I could get from my system was 42 degrees from the outside vents. I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Is the industrial R-12 available to a certified mechanic? Can I get it? Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Is there a write up on changing back R-12? Thanks, Mike On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Jon Agne wrote: SorryI am late to this thread, but I just did all of this. My R-4 bit the dust last November, so I put it off until the spring, and decided to use ES-12 as my refrigerant. Bought a new Behr (made by that same company in Dallas) compressor from FCP Euro along with a new drier and expansion valve. I ran out of time in late May, so I took it to my local INDY and had him remove all of the aforementioned parts and do a compete flush. It worked great for three weeks, and then the compressor imploded. Compressor was replaced under warranty, and they even sent me another drier. Another flush, and this time I used the Industrial ES-12. Followed the directions, and I have had the BEST cooling for the best 2.5 months. I'm in Atlanta now, and I feel great in my car. Hope it all works out for you. Jon On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: those e are the ones to get , gerry. they are arguably the real delcos, at least i would argue so. nobody really sells them on the online front end catalogs as az sells the sort of OK behr's for 250 and you can't sell these for that price as they cost about that wholesale. just another example of hhow the chase for low prices yields the poorest value On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: What's your opinion on the R-4 clones made in Dallas/FW? Bought one from Rusty last year and it seems to do better than the GM R-4 compressor bought about the same time. Gerry.in Florida where compressors get a workout From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i think i can manage that. you maybe have been put into clown parts or maybe just bad like or maybe something else going on. without speculating on that, i'll send you some info privately On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The ac compressor in my 300D just failed again. I put a new unit in 2 years ago with new dryer and expansion valve. This was done by a professional. not me. Is there a specific brand compressor I should be purchasing? Jabba, can you supply me with a quality compressor, dryer and expansion valve for a reasonable price? Thanks, Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6113 - Release Date: 08/27/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http
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I get no flow from the center vents. Is this caused by the failure of the center vacuum pod. Certainly can be. MityVac will tell you for sure. Is there a way to replace this pod without pulling the dash? Theoretically, but I think it's _really_ hard. Hole saw, fiberglass repair, etc. Can I switch back to R-12 from 134a? Yes, a thorough flush is req'd. I did it on SWMBA's 560 SL. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have heard it recommended that an input filter be used on formerly-shrapnelled systems. The flush isn't always quite good enough. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
