Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Jamie, Thanks so much for the NAV brackets...they are a big help with the project. I am still tracking down additional parts but with your instructions the project should go well. I will keep you informed. Let me know what the part and shipping cost and I can sent it to you via paypal. If I can ever assist you please don't hesitate to write or call. I live 15 miles of NYC. Sincerely, Bob Koziak -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Bob, I might have the brackets for the trunk... I'll let you know. You'll also need the GPS splitter, I can find the part number. If you want a trunk liner that looks nice, you'll have to order one of them too. A parts guy that knows his stuff and his was around the EPC will be your friend here. Originally, if Nav was added to a car, they ordered a kit which contained everything that was needed, including the correct liner. Regarding the wiring, there are three connections to the Nav box. A power cable, MOST (orange fiber optics), and GPS antenna. All three of these are already in the car. The GPS cable just runs to where a splitter can be connected. Its also on the driver's side of the trunk, in a little deeper. Actually, on second thought, you can just connect the GPS antenna directly, but you'll have to disconnect it from the Teleaid module. This means your emergency call system won't know where you are. If you want this system to work, this is a consideration. All communication goes through MOST to the head unit. You have to tie the MOST cables for the Nav box into the MOST ring. The junction for these cables is under the back seat, drivers side. Its a fairly easy task if you do it after everything else is connected. You can just figure out which lines come from the Nav box, and which are in the ring. You open one of the couplers with the system running and you'll see a red light. Connect that one to one of the cables from the Nav box. If you get light coming out of the other Nav box cable, you got the right one... now complete the ring by connecting the two open cables together. If not, try the other combination. MOST devices are in a ring. Each device has two cables, one in and one out. Only thing you can mess up is mixing up in and out. If the light isn't able to travel around the ring completely, nothing works: You just see a MB star on the head unit, then it shuts down. Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Jaime...that's really what I wanted to hear! I didn't want a system that looks like an add on and didn't blend perfectly. Any further information would be great.diagrams, part numbers, pictures etc. I will keep the list updated on the project from searching out the parts to the finished product. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Hi Bob, Don't worry about the shipping... I'm glad someone can make use of those brackets. They've been sitting around the office for years. Good luck! Jaime On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Jamie, Thanks so much for the NAV brackets...they are a big help with the project. I am still tracking down additional parts but with your instructions the project should go well. I will keep you informed. Let me know what the part and shipping cost and I can sent it to you via paypal. If I can ever assist you please don't hesitate to write or call. I live 15 miles of NYC. Sincerely, Bob Koziak -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Bob, I might have the brackets for the trunk... I'll let you know. You'll also need the GPS splitter, I can find the part number. If you want a trunk liner that looks nice, you'll have to order one of them too. A parts guy that knows his stuff and his was around the EPC will be your friend here. Originally, if Nav was added to a car, they ordered a kit which contained everything that was needed, including the correct liner. Regarding the wiring, there are three connections to the Nav box. A power cable, MOST (orange fiber optics), and GPS antenna. All three of these are already in the car. The GPS cable just runs to where a splitter can be connected. Its also on the driver's side of the trunk, in a little deeper. Actually, on second thought, you can just connect the GPS antenna directly, but you'll have to disconnect it from the Teleaid module. This means your emergency call system won't know where you are. If you want this system to work, this is a consideration. All communication goes through MOST to the head unit. You have to tie the MOST cables for the Nav box into the MOST ring. The junction for these cables is under the back seat, drivers side. Its a fairly easy task if you do it after everything else is connected. You can just figure out which lines come from the Nav box, and which are in the ring. You open one of the couplers with the system running and you'll see a red light. Connect that one to one of the cables from the Nav box. If you get light coming out of the other Nav box cable, you got the right one... now complete the ring by connecting the two open cables together. If not, try the other combination. MOST devices are in a ring. Each device has two cables, one in and one out. Only thing you can mess up is mixing up in and out. If the light isn't able to travel around the ring completely, nothing works: You just see a MB star on the head unit, then it shuts down. Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Jaime...that's really what I wanted to hear! I didn't want a system that looks like an add on and didn't blend perfectly. Any further information would be great.diagrams, part numbers, pictures etc. I will keep the list updated on the project from searching out the parts to the finished product. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
So this unit works with some existing screen in the car, or does it have its own you have to mount somewhere? --R On 3/2/13 10:16 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Go for it, can't go wrong with help from Jaime! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Along the same lines, what do you have to so to add GPS to a 2001 ml? Mine already has the head unit with the nav button, but it needs a reader and the map disks I guess. It also seems like you have to pull the unit out and install the cd reader in the dash unit? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Jaime...that's really what I wanted to hear! I didn't want a system that looks like an add on and didn't blend perfectly. Any further information would be great.diagrams, part numbers, pictures etc. I will keep the list updated on the project from searching out the parts to the finished product. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc. needed would be appreciated. As always thanks in advance. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
IIRC, you can push a button on the dash unit and the screen swings down, exposing the CD reader for the nav unit (or was that a cassette deck behind the screen?) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Along the same lines, what do you have to so to add GPS to a 2001 ml? Mine already has the head unit with the nav button, but it needs a reader and the map disks I guess. It also seems like you have to pull the unit out and install the cd reader in the dash unit? Sent from my iPhone OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
It's got the cassette back there but it appears there is an optional cd reader that is not there but I think might be able to be added Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, you can push a button on the dash unit and the screen swings down, exposing the CD reader for the nav unit (or was that a cassette deck behind the screen?) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Along the same lines, what do you have to so to add GPS to a 2001 ml? Mine already has the head unit with the nav button, but it needs a reader and the map disks I guess. It also seems like you have to pull the unit out and install the cd reader in the dash unit? Sent from my iPhone OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Kaleb, Thats an Alpine system... I think there might be a Navi module you can put into it from the back. I'm not very familiar with them. Check eBay. Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: It's got the cassette back there but it appears there is an optional cd reader that is not there but I think might be able to be added Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, you can push a button on the dash unit and the screen swings down, exposing the CD reader for the nav unit (or was that a cassette deck behind the screen?) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Along the same lines, what do you have to so to add GPS to a 2001 ml? Mine already has the head unit with the nav button, but it needs a reader and the map disks I guess. It also seems like you have to pull the unit out and install the cd reader in the dash unit? Sent from my iPhone OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
Bob, I might have the brackets for the trunk... I'll let you know. You'll also need the GPS splitter, I can find the part number. If you want a trunk liner that looks nice, you'll have to order one of them too. A parts guy that knows his stuff and his was around the EPC will be your friend here. Originally, if Nav was added to a car, they ordered a kit which contained everything that was needed, including the correct liner. Regarding the wiring, there are three connections to the Nav box. A power cable, MOST (orange fiber optics), and GPS antenna. All three of these are already in the car. The GPS cable just runs to where a splitter can be connected. Its also on the driver's side of the trunk, in a little deeper. Actually, on second thought, you can just connect the GPS antenna directly, but you'll have to disconnect it from the Teleaid module. This means your emergency call system won't know where you are. If you want this system to work, this is a consideration. All communication goes through MOST to the head unit. You have to tie the MOST cables for the Nav box into the MOST ring. The junction for these cables is under the back seat, drivers side. Its a fairly easy task if you do it after everything else is connected. You can just figure out which lines come from the Nav box, and which are in the ring. You open one of the couplers with the system running and you'll see a red light. Connect that one to one of the cables from the Nav box. If you get light coming out of the other Nav box cable, you got the right one... now complete the ring by connecting the two open cables together. If not, try the other combination. MOST devices are in a ring. Each device has two cables, one in and one out. Only thing you can mess up is mixing up in and out. If the light isn't able to travel around the ring completely, nothing works: You just see a MB star on the head unit, then it shuts down. Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Jaime...that's really what I wanted to hear! I didn't want a system that looks like an add on and didn't blend perfectly. Any further information would be great.diagrams, part numbers, pictures etc. I will keep the list updated on the project from searching out the parts to the finished product. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System Oops... I pressed send too fast. So, reasons to use the factory system: - Good integration with instrument cluster, must less distraction, route info available at a glance - Audio integration: Entertainment audio will not conflict with Navigation, they bled automatically. You can always hear the Navi. - Positioning. The factory relies more on a gyroscope and wheel speed sensors for positioning than GPS. This means you still know where you are in tunnels, big cities, and anywhere else the view to the sky is obstructed. - Current maps are still available. Make sure you get a recent one if you buy a box with the DVD. You can get the Navi box on ebay, as you said, but you also need the factory mounting bracket. Proper mounting is critical to the function of the positioning, so rigging something up isn't recommended. You can is prewired for this. You'll find what you need tucked behind the driver's side trunk liner. You'll also need a GPS splitter. I can find part numbers for all this stuff if you want to continue. I know this system quite intimately: I'm one of the engineers that helped to bring it to the market. Good luck! Jaime On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bob, The system for your car is now about 10 years old, so consider this when comparing it to a modern Garmin. The Garmin will have more features and probably a nicer user interface. I'm sure everyone else on the list will give you dozens of reasons why you should just use a Garmin, but let me give you some reasons why you should use the factory system: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi, It's me again with the new toy. My 2004 E320 does not have a Navigation System so I am considering installing one. I did research and some people say it's as simple as buying a DVD reader and mounting it in he trunk because all the cars are NAV ready. Any opinions on this endeavor. Is the system worth the work? I currently use a Garmin in my other cars but since it appears to be an easy project this would eliminate the constant removing the Garmin to avoid theft in addition to being aesthetically pleasing. I see a range of prices for the reader on EBAY from $200 to $1800. I don't see any brackets or wiring so any diagrams, part numbers etc
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic Navigation System
HAHAHA, my '98 ML has the CD installed. You paid too much for yours :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/2/2013 2:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It's got the cassette back there but it appears there is an optional cd reader that is not there but I think might be able to be added Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:06 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, you can push a button on the dash unit and the screen swings down, exposing the CD reader for the nav unit (or was that a cassette deck behind the screen?) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Along the same lines, what do you have to so to add GPS to a 2001 ml? Mine already has the head unit with the nav button, but it needs a reader and the map disks I guess. It also seems like you have to pull the unit out and install the cd reader in the dash unit? Sent from my iPhone OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
