Re: [MBZ] 959

2010-12-12 Thread l02turner

EM -
IMO it's a German thing. Look at the German tanks of WW2 - awesome and 
terrible machines but hell to keep running.  Very complex systems required a 
lot of maintenance.


But of course I'd love to own a 959.  And yes they are legal here in some 
settings - but they must meet NHTSA safety reqmnts. - but a crash test is 
not mandated.  The owner of Pelican Porsche Parts bought one last year. 
There's a guy in Ca who bought 6 and made the needed mods.  His name escapes 
me at the moment - it'll probably come to me after I hit send. Start with a 
C perhaps. Canepa!  That's it! ;-)


IMHO a 996TT or 997TT is the reincarnation of the 959.  Twin Turbos, AWD and 
great looks without the rarity and ultra high cost - would love to one. 
Unfortunately,  the 911/997TT doesn't have that great looking 959 rear wing, 
Now, a McLaren F1 is another kettle of fish!


LarryT
91 300D


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 959


...What was the saying about the old Porsche 959.  The Porsche engineers
see no
reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number of
parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job...


Well but, that was 1987 and what other cars could do 200mph then? Never
certified here but the rest of the world bought them all.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 959

2010-12-12 Thread E M
Nice thing here Larry, once a car is old enough, they just come in as is, no
need to chop things up and make various mods.  Oh yeah, I'd love a 959 too.
I'm really just a want-a-be closet engineer, so for me, the 959 was the
automotive Concorde of its day.  I like the concept of the RUF CTR, and I
think the 911 platform is one, if not the most entertaining drivers cars
ever made.  The CTR just bumps all the things that make the 911 so much fun,
into the stratosphere. :-)

There was an article in Excellent awhile back, comparing the 959 to the TT I
believe.  You may have the article.  Did I send it to you, or just the few
Forca mags, I can't remember ?

You could also get a TT, and put a RUF CTR2 wing on the rear, which has a
similar look to the 959s.  The GT2 wing of the same era looks pretty hot
too!

Ed
300E

On 12 December 2010 13:02, l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 EM -
 IMO it's a German thing. Look at the German tanks of WW2 - awesome and
 terrible machines but hell to keep running.  Very complex systems required a
 lot of maintenance.

 But of course I'd love to own a 959.  And yes they are legal here in some
 settings - but they must meet NHTSA safety reqmnts. - but a crash test is
 not mandated.  The owner of Pelican Porsche Parts bought one last year.
 There's a guy in Ca who bought 6 and made the needed mods.  His name escapes
 me at the moment - it'll probably come to me after I hit send. Start with a
 C perhaps. Canepa!  That's it! ;-)

 IMHO a 996TT or 997TT is the reincarnation of the 959.  Twin Turbos, AWD
 and great looks without the rarity and ultra high cost - would love to one.
 Unfortunately,  the 911/997TT doesn't have that great looking 959 rear wing,
 Now, a McLaren F1 is another kettle of fish!

 LarryT
 91 300D


 -Original Message- From: relng...@aol.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:44 AM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 959


  ...What was the saying about the old Porsche 959.  The Porsche engineers
 see no
 reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number of
 parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job...

  Well but, that was 1987 and what other cars could do 200mph then? Never
 certified here but the rest of the world bought them all.

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 959

2010-12-12 Thread RELNGSON
 Not sure what your laws are in the US, but as the car is now older, 
 it
 qualifies for entry into Canada, unaltered.  If the same holds true for 
 the
 US, buy a lotto ticket, I do see them come up for sale from time to time.
 Would be a nice addition to your garage, to keep your 944 company. ;-)..
 
You can now buy a certified 959 (wallet permitting) from Bruce Canepa in 
Scott's Valley CA. The story of how they were certified is described here:

http://www.canepa.com/

This is a fabulous website with many cars for sale, pictures of the museum 
and shop plus the transporters they build are amazing. Canepa was the 
original designer and marketer of aerokits for highway truck tractors which are 
everywhere now. A few nice MBs are seen but perhaps my favorite was the '39 
Ford convertible, black.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 959

2010-12-11 Thread RELNGSON
 ...What was the saying about the old Porsche 959.  The Porsche engineers 
 see no
 reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number of
 parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job...
 
Well but, that was 1987 and what other cars could do 200mph then? Never 
certified here but the rest of the world bought them all.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 959

2010-12-11 Thread E M
Few if anything could do it back then, and I'm sure even today, 25 years on,
few do it with as much stability and safety.

When Porsche put out their C4 Carrera, it too was much more complicated than
other offerings.  They simplified it quite a bit when they offered it in
their 993 based cars, as you know.  They also did some tuning and refining
as the early C4s were under-steering pigs when pushed.

Back to the 959.  A friend who was very well connected within Porsche, drove
a 959 a number of years back on the Autobahn in the pouring rain.  He said
he was amazed how cautious the other drivers were in the wet, until he
looked at the speedo and noticed he was doing 170 mph.  He said it was so
stable, it almost defied physics.  This from a man with a LOT of seat time
at the track, in a variety of cars, and on bikes.

Not sure what your laws are in the US, but as the car is now older, it
qualifies for entry into Canada, unaltered.  If the same holds true for the
US, buy a lotto ticket, I do see them come up for sale from time to time.
Would be a nice addition to your garage, to keep your 944 company. ;-)

Ed
300E
911SC

On 12 December 2010 00:44, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...What was the saying about the old Porsche 959.  The Porsche engineers
  see no
  reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number
 of
  parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job...
 
 Well but, that was 1987 and what other cars could do 200mph then? Never
 certified here but the rest of the world bought them all.

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 959

2007-09-05 Thread RELNGSON
The 959 is real.  As I understand the import rules were changed for low
production cars or they were granted an exemption or somesuch a few
years ago.

Bruce Canepa in California has been federalizing 959s for some years now.

http://www.canepa.com/

RLE


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