Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I hear a rooster or two crowing every morning from somewhere on the 
other side of the woods, not sure who it belongs to.  I usually dump the 
grains in the compost bin, el merde de cerveza. My farmer buddy collects 
the spent grains from a bunch of the breweries in town and feeds his 
cows and pigs and water buffaloes with it.


--FT


On 10/20/17 10:45 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I you have a neighbor with garden hens, you could share grains and get some of 
his excess eggs.

clay



On Oct 20, 2017, at 6:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I keep thinking I need to use that spent grain when I make beer to make some bread.  My 
buddy makes dog treats with them, the dogs go insane over "special treats!"

--FT


On 10/20/17 1:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

And as
much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
- like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
white),


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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I you have a neighbor with garden hens, you could share grains and get some of 
his excess eggs.

clay


> On Oct 20, 2017, at 6:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I keep thinking I need to use that spent grain when I make beer to make some 
> bread.  My buddy makes dog treats with them, the dogs go insane over "special 
> treats!"
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 10/20/17 1:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
>> And as
>> much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
>> - like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
>> white),
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds idyllic. The pawpaw trees in DC are way too neurotic to set fruit.
You have to hang meat to capture the Flies to pollinate them. And if the
fruits do form, the Chipmunks groundhogs and squirrels will eat them all.

On Oct 20, 2017 6:18 PM, "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Andrew,
> We had pawpaw trees in Southern WV. I ate pawpaws when I was young. I
> don't remember the early bloom as Feb would be too cold, maybe mid March. I
> remember some of the trees being 10-12 feet in height and they did tend to
> grow in the shade of large oaks or maples. Great fruit to eat and a
> preferred meal of various wildlife as well.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Andrew, 
We had pawpaw trees in Southern WV. I ate pawpaws when I was young. I don't 
remember the early bloom as Feb would be too cold, maybe mid March. I remember 
some of the trees being 10-12 feet in height and they did tend to grow in the 
shade of large oaks or maples. Great fruit to eat and a preferred meal of 
various wildlife as well. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The also supposedly flower in February (M + F) and need flies to
pollinate.  Some suggest hanging rotten meat on the branches to attract
them.  I'd rather not do this.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On October 20, 2017 at 3:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Aybody know anything about pawpaws?  I had one the other day.  Quite
> > interesting but way expensive
>
> There's a couple of small pawpaw patches in the woods at my family's farm.
> A friend transplanted several from the farm to his backyard about 20 years
> ago.
> IIRC they like partial shade, don't grow very big, I don't recall the
> average height being over 6'.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 20, 2017 at 3:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Aybody know anything about pawpaws?  I had one the other day.  Quite
> interesting but way expensive

There's a couple of small pawpaw patches in the woods at my family's farm. 
A friend transplanted several from the farm to his backyard about 20 years ago. 
IIRC they like partial shade, don't grow very big, I don't recall the average 
height being over 6'. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Aybody know anything about pawpaws?  I had one the other day.  Quite
interesting but way expensive

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:33 PM, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > > fmiser wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
> > > > apart and the quantity doesn't matter.
> >
> > > Max wrote:
> > >
> > > Can you put some color on this?  Source?
> >
> > Trim Healthy Mama (THM) has popularized the technique.  But it is
> > a huge, convoluted, and not logically progressive book.  Many in
> > my family have researched and applied the concepts.
> >
> > I just did a search for "THM Simplified" and found this good summary.
> > http://www.pinchofpatience.com/thm-in-3-points/
> >
> >
> >
> That's perfect, thanks.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:33 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > > fmiser wrote:
> > >
> > > Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
> > > apart and the quantity doesn't matter.
>
> > Max wrote:
> >
> > Can you put some color on this?  Source?
>
> Trim Healthy Mama (THM) has popularized the technique.  But it is
> a huge, convoluted, and not logically progressive book.  Many in
> my family have researched and applied the concepts.
>
> I just did a search for "THM Simplified" and found this good summary.
> http://www.pinchofpatience.com/thm-in-3-points/
>
>
>
That's perfect, thanks.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
> > apart and the quantity doesn't matter.

> Max wrote:
>
> Can you put some color on this?  Source?

Trim Healthy Mama (THM) has popularized the technique.  But it is
a huge, convoluted, and not logically progressive book.  Many in
my family have researched and applied the concepts.

I just did a search for "THM Simplified" and found this good summary.
http://www.pinchofpatience.com/thm-in-3-points/


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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I keep thinking I need to use that spent grain when I make beer to make 
some bread.  My buddy makes dog treats with them, the dogs go insane 
over "special treats!"


--FT


On 10/20/17 1:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

And as
much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
- like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
white),



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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

When I was on the Atkins Diet I lost 50 #'s over 6 months.  The Carb 
target was 20 which I never hit but I got as close to it as possible.  
20 carbs/day is a really low number but it worked.


The info about keeping the carbs and fats 4 hours apart is a very 
helpful comment.   Like Max I'd like to know where that came from/    
Not doubting you, just curious.


Thanks -

LarryT


On 10/20/2017 1:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb wrote:
I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to
stay under, even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as
it comes in under that target I should be fine.

I'll say it again.  Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
apart and the quantity doesn't matter.

Again, a prerequisite is to eliminate processed sugars.  And as
much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
- like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
white), or roast beef, not bologna, the whole apple not apple
juice, etc.  It will take some time, but the weight will come
off.  And you will be a lot healthier too, so other issues may
clear up - like heart burn, sleep troubles, hypoglycemia,
headaches, etc.

Oh, and portion size won't matter either, if you listen to your
appetite.

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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Philip,

Can you put some color on this?  Source?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
> apart and the quantity doesn't matter.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to
> stay under, even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as
> it comes in under that target I should be fine.

I'll say it again.  Keep the starch (carbs) and oils/fats 4 hours
apart and the quantity doesn't matter.

Again, a prerequisite is to eliminate processed sugars.  And as
much as possible, eat the whole "fruit" as unprocessed as possible
- like ground grain without the germ removed and not bleached (NOT
white), or roast beef, not bologna, the whole apple not apple
juice, etc.  It will take some time, but the weight will come
off.  And you will be a lot healthier too, so other issues may
clear up - like heart burn, sleep troubles, hypoglycemia,
headaches, etc.

Oh, and portion size won't matter either, if you listen to your
appetite.

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