Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230 5-speed
It looks like a really cheaply built car from the era of garbage Mercedes but the 5 speed is intriguing. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is correct. There are issues with compressor shaft seals that have to > be dealt with. I believe it’s not that bad of a repair on a scale compared to > say, an M648(?) oil cooler, but it’s not fun. > > I researched this somewhat when I started looking for R170s for Mrs. Dan and > what I found made me completely eliminate the SLK230s from consideration. > > -D > >> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I think the engines are OK, and it's the Kompressors that are considered >> normal wear parts. >> I never liked the idea of crankshaft driven superchargers on passenger car >> engines in the first place, but that's just me... >> >> Mitch. >> >>> On 2020-10-17 23:34, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> That's disappointing to hear. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230 5-speed
This is correct. There are issues with compressor shaft seals that have to be dealt with. I believe it’s not that bad of a repair on a scale compared to say, an M648(?) oil cooler, but it’s not fun. I researched this somewhat when I started looking for R170s for Mrs. Dan and what I found made me completely eliminate the SLK230s from consideration. -D > On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think the engines are OK, and it's the Kompressors that are considered > normal wear parts. > I never liked the idea of crankshaft driven superchargers on passenger car > engines in the first place, but that's just me... > > Mitch. > > On 2020-10-17 23:34, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> That's disappointing to hear. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230 5-speed
I think the engines are OK, and it's the Kompressors that are considered normal wear parts. I never liked the idea of crankshaft driven superchargers on passenger car engines in the first place, but that's just me... Mitch. On 2020-10-17 23:34, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: That's disappointing to hear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230 5-speed
That's disappointing to hear. Rick Knoble via Mercedes writes: >>How do the Kompressor engines hold up? > > They don't. > > Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230 5-speed
>How do the Kompressor engines hold up? They don't. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230
Are those the things that were sorta designed to cost, a young female real estate agent special? --R or young Merkun female shyster, er, ah, professional liar, er, ahh, lawyer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230
Are those the things that were sorta designed to cost, a young female real estate agent special? --R On 12/27/15 6:20 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Back in 2002 I drove one of those on the Autobahn... it was a german spec car and there was an obvious difference in feel in the suspension compare to US models. I was really impressed. I understood why the car existed for the German market. It was really a fast car in the land of expensive gas. Especially compared to my C180 wagon (6 speed) rental car. Jaime On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Rode a bit today in a Cheep230 Mit Kompressor. It was nowhere near as bad as curmudgeon Woger (RIP) made out. It WAS noisier than a W111 220Sb mit M180; probably a little less than a W123 mit OM616. I am not sure what year it was but I think they were sold about 1999 to 2005 or so. I'd guess it might be a $1500 car now, but the owner, a high priced shyster, bought it new. However: the passenger side door pull was broken off at the top. I was unable to determine if there were other flaws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230
Back in 2002 I drove one of those on the Autobahn... it was a german spec car and there was an obvious difference in feel in the suspension compare to US models. I was really impressed. I understood why the car existed for the German market. It was really a fast car in the land of expensive gas. Especially compared to my C180 wagon (6 speed) rental car. Jaime On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Rode a bit today in a Cheep230 Mit Kompressor. It was nowhere near as bad as curmudgeon Woger (RIP) made out. It WAS noisier than a W111 220Sb mit M180; probably a little less than a W123 mit OM616. I am not sure what year it was but I think they were sold about 1999 to 2005 or so. I'd guess it might be a $1500 car now, but the owner, a high priced shyster, bought it new. However: the passenger side door pull was broken off at the top. I was > unable to determine if there were other flaws. > Having never been in even a 201, it was interesting to me. I had a great experience with the Euro 123 230TE. Since they were introduced, I have been interested in the C230 and SLK 230 Mit Komp. #1 Daughter is still pining for the original SLK230 in Silver. Someday she may get one. The SLK at auction 2 weeks ago was back last week. It went up to $5100 the second time, and I am guessing it was a no sale again the second time. I will miss the sale this week. In the 'merkin new car mkt, I am sure the 2.3 was at a disadvantage to the asian cars with more displacement. The 'merun mantra is still "there is no replacement for displacement" and those people will never appreciate a stock performance engine like the M180 in 1962. so the 230 Mit K. gave way to the 3.2 mit more cylinders/displacement ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheep 230
Back in 2002 I drove one of those on the Autobahn... it was a german spec car and there was an obvious difference in feel in the suspension compare to US models. I was really impressed. I understood why the car existed for the German market. It was really a fast car in the land of expensive gas. Especially compared to my C180 wagon (6 speed) rental car. Jaime On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rode a bit today in a Cheep230 Mit Kompressor. It was nowhere near as bad > as curmudgeon Woger (RIP) made out. It WAS noisier than a W111 220Sb mit > M180; probably a little less than a W123 mit OM616. > > I am not sure what year it was but I think they were sold about 1999 to > 2005 or so. I'd guess it might be a $1500 car now, but the owner, a high > priced shyster, bought it new. > > However: the passenger side door pull was broken off at the top. I was > unable to determine if there were other flaws. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
