Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
speaking of Africa - I always thought it odd that the African continent has natural resources that rival N America yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand why anyone would be proud to call themselves African-American given the supposed culture of Africa. As far as I can tell the fighting and killing has been going on for ever - occasionally exacerbated by Europeans, Americans, Cubans, etc - Slavery was a terrible thing when in place in the US but those who survived seem to be in a better place here than if they had remained in Africa. But I may be wrong ... LarryT 91 300D On 1/6/2013 10:57 PM, G Mann wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Jan 8, 2013 6:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand Sounds a lot like Germany before Bismarck. My ancestors left Germany 100 years prior. Glad the place worked out for everyone else. In college I had a good friend from Nigeria. He used to get a kick out of telling people that he lived in a thatch hut. If they believed that he'd continue, getting more absurd. The craziest I heard him get was how he had to go outside every morning and, with his bare hands (because he had no metal tools of course), wrestle and hogtie two lions so that his family could eat breakfast. He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had why anyone would be proud to call themselves African-American given the supposed culture of Africa. As far as I can tell the fighting and killing has been going on for ever - occasionally exacerbated by Europeans, Americans, Cubans, etc - Slavery was a terrible thing when in place in the US but those who survived seem to be in a better place here than if they had remained in Africa. But I may be wrong ... LarryT 91 300D On 1/6/2013 10:57 PM, G Mann wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
Sent too soon.. On Jan 8, 2013 7:48 AM, bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 8, 2013 6:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand Sounds a lot like Germany before Bismarck. My ancestors left Germany 100 years prior. Glad the place worked out for everyone else. In college I had a good friend from Nigeria. He used to get a kick out of telling people that he lived in a thatch hut. If they believed that he'd continue, getting more absurd. The craziest I heard him get was how he had to go outside every morning and, with his bare hands (because he had no metal tools of course), wrestle and hogtie two lions so that his family could eat breakfast. He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had ...These quaint views just because he was from Africa. In reality he was from a reasonably-sized modern city, went to a good school, and his father was a pastor in a mainstream Christian denomination. He was one of the best materials engineers I have known; he did a lot of early research on GaAs. Not sure where he is now. Troubled areas get more attention in the news, but you don't believe that Colorado is filled with all kinds of violence against movie goers. Small governments often lack resources to control the populace peacefully; it just so happens (in this and the last century) that a lot of small governments are in South America and Africa. There are a lot of Africans at war and living in terrible conditions, but there are also a lot of Africans living in cities, going to school, having bar mitzvahs, and eating Jello. why anyone would be proud to call themselves African-American ... Best, Tim Feudal-German American (I know there are MBs in Africa but probably this discussion is more appropriately moved to banned.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
I can top that: New Guinea When I traveled that part of the world we were absolutely banned from going to or transiting through New Guinea. The Aussie I traveled with in those parts was adamant that as an Anglo the risks inherent in going there far outweighed any potential gain. A lot like Angola, where we had a big water plant project. Nasty place with little regard for human life. Dan On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:57 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
I hear that you might have been the guest of honor at a big feast in that place. -R On 1/8/13 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I can top that: New Guinea When I traveled that part of the world we were absolutely banned from going to or transiting through New Guinea. The Aussie I traveled with in those parts was adamant that as an Anglo the risks inherent in going there far outweighed any potential gain. A lot like Angola, where we had a big water plant project. Nasty place with little regard for human life. Dan On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:57 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No doubt. Maybe our resident Aussie can elaborate on the wonderful aspects of that neighbouring country... Dan On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I hear that you might have been the guest of honor at a big feast in that place. -R On 1/8/13 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I can top that: New Guinea When I traveled that part of the world we were absolutely banned from going to or transiting through New Guinea. The Aussie I traveled with in those parts was adamant that as an Anglo the risks inherent in going there far outweighed any potential gain. A lot like Angola, where we had a big water plant project. Nasty place with little regard for human life. Dan On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:57 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
When he applies from the local address, tell him to setup a local (NY/NJ) Google Voice number. voice.google.com If he has a smartphone, the calls and texts will be routed to his cell. Also, calling out gives you the option to call with/without the G.voice number. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/5/2013 4:01 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Absolutely. He has been applying for positions all over the US, from what his dad tells me. One of the issues I have seen is with employers not considering or giving less consideration to applicants from outside their geographic area, since the job pool is so deep these days. I know he's not expecting relocation expenses - he's a kid fresh out of college looking to start his career. He's got some serious student loans, so he's expecting to be poor for some time The family has a lot of relatives in the NYC/Northern NJ area, so he's looking at using one of the relative's addresses for applying in that area. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
Excellent suggestion, Luther! Thanks! Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: When he applies from the local address, tell him to setup a local (NY/NJ) Google Voice number. voice.google.com If he has a smartphone, the calls and texts will be routed to his cell. Also, calling out gives you the option to call with/without the G.voice number. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/5/2013 4:01 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Absolutely. He has been applying for positions all over the US, from what his dad tells me. One of the issues I have seen is with employers not considering or giving less consideration to applicants from outside their geographic area, since the job pool is so deep these days. I know he's not expecting relocation expenses - he's a kid fresh out of college looking to start his career. He's got some serious student loans, so he's expecting to be poor for some time The family has a lot of relatives in the NYC/Northern NJ area, so he's looking at using one of the relative's addresses for applying in that area. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: speaking of Africa - I always thought it odd that the African continent has natural resources that rival N America yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand why anyone would be proud to call themselves African-American given the supposed culture of Africa. As far as I can tell the fighting and killing has been going on for ever - occasionally exacerbated by Europeans, Americans, Cubans, etc - Slavery was a terrible thing when in place in the US but those who survived seem to be in a better place here than if they had remained in Africa. But I may be wrong ... LarryT 91 300D On 1/6/2013 10:57 PM, G Mann wrote: Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although my dad spoke fluent mandarin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:46:01 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although my dad spoke fluent mandarin... We used to have a fellow in South Africa. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know of at least one African American participant but there may be others, as there are several noms de plumes in use. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although my dad spoke fluent mandarin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Mountain Man wrote: Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? We have the _really_ foreign South Australia represented... And a while ago there was a fellow from souther Africa on here. I recall there were very few turbo engines where he was. It may have been South Africa, but I don't think so. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We all came from Africa !!! --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I know of at least one African American participant but there may be others, as there are several noms de plumes in use. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although my dad spoke fluent mandarin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
Not all civil engineering is public works. My Dad is a civil engineer and has never gone long without a job, I think part of the trick is that he's also PLS (professional land surveyor). Its still not a real growth industry though. Right now Dad is a landfill manager which he says is the best job he's ever had. Theres lots of engineering that goes on on the landfill that they used to farm out to different companies. Even including my Dad's salary he figures the landfill saved around half a million bucks by having him on staff instead of farming that work out. Apparently most landfill managers are just high school graduates. -Curt Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:35:40 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT Message-ID: ae65324d-120f-43b5-a7ab-c3d31e401...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii North Dakota maybe. Not much spare change for civil engineering projects in the Northwest. Washington will process the dang things to death, deplete any funding for actually building it, and then say they never really wanted it anyway. Western Montana was rebuilding the bridges on I-90 from Idaho to Missoula last year. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to disease, war, murder, and parasites. My last contract was in Nigeria, then Benin. The price for a hired murder there was $20, with a machete. If you wanted it done with a gun, the price was $50, cash up front, of course. Slaves were openly for sale. I ask my native associate what do you do with them? He replied, Anything you want, you own them. Medical care was not present, by any western standard. Oh,, btw.. kidnapping western people for ransom is a favorite pastime, plan accordingly. Grant... AZ... On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Craig wrote: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. Possibly, but I haven't talked to him directly to know exactly what area of the discipline he's interested in. I suspect at this point he's not picky. I can find out if it is important. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. Believe me, I thought of you when his dad was telling me this. His dad is a good friend and former work associate, as well as a neighbor. The son is a good kid, good student and hard worker. He's been really going nuts trying to find something. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Absolutely. He has been applying for positions all over the US, from what his dad tells me. One of the issues I have seen is with employers not considering or giving less consideration to applicants from outside their geographic area, since the job pool is so deep these days. I know he's not expecting relocation expenses - he's a kid fresh out of college looking to start his career. He's got some serious student loans, so he's expecting to be poor for some time The family has a lot of relatives in the NYC/Northern NJ area, so he's looking at using one of the relative's addresses for applying in that area. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Jan 5, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. Civil engineering seems to be a dying field at present. My girlfriend was laid off from a major civil engineering firm a while back. They had been making cuts since 2008 and staffing cuts continue to this day. He may have to start looking overseas. I see no signs that US infrastructure is going to be improved, let alone maintained, at the Federal, state, or municipal levels for years to come. They are broke. Unless he finds an employer with a Pork Barrel project (bridge to nowhere, high speed train to nowhere) his chances of a career in his chosen field are less than ideal right now. Probably a poor career choice, but not as bad as an education degree with no specialty. Perhaps he can return to school and get a BSE in some other field? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I sort of thought the same thing, but it's all water under the bridge for him at this point., For that matter, I didn't realize the Embry-Riddle had a civil engineering degree program - I thought it was all aeronautical stuff. Dan On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Civil engineering seems to be a dying field at present. My girlfriend was laid off from a major civil engineering firm a while back. They had been making cuts since 2008 and staffing cuts continue to this day. He may have to start looking overseas. I see no signs that US infrastructure is going to be improved, let alone maintained, at the Federal, state, or municipal levels for years to come. They are broke. Unless he finds an employer with a Pork Barrel project (bridge to nowhere, high speed train to nowhere) his chances of a career in his chosen field are less than ideal right now. Probably a poor career choice, but not as bad as an education degree with no specialty. Perhaps he can return to school and get a BSE in some other field? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
I'm surprised, too, by CE at Embry-Riddle. Obviously, they musta branched out. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT I sort of thought the same thing, but it's all water under the bridge for him at this point., For that matter, I didn't realize the Embry-Riddle had a civil engineering degree program - I thought it was all aeronautical stuff. Dan On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Civil engineering seems to be a dying field at present. My girlfriend was laid off from a major civil engineering firm a while back. They had been making cuts since 2008 and staffing cuts continue to this day. He may have to start looking overseas. I see no signs that US infrastructure is going to be improved, let alone maintained, at the Federal, state, or municipal levels for years to come. They are broke. Unless he finds an employer with a Pork Barrel project (bridge to nowhere, high speed train to nowhere) his chances of a career in his chosen field are less than ideal right now. Probably a poor career choice, but not as bad as an education degree with no specialty. Perhaps he can return to school and get a BSE in some other field? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
Wouldn't it have made more sense to get a job before the grad degree? With no job experience he is competing against those that may have decades of experience. Its often easier to get a job if you already live where you expect to work or would like to get a job, unless the prospective employer knows there are no local candidates or you know something that nobody else does. He really has no leverage. I would not hire anyone that uses a false address. If he's going to Uncle Bob's address he better be living with Uncle Bob. On Saturday, January 5, 2013, Dan Penoff wrote: On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Craig wrote: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. Possibly, but I haven't talked to him directly to know exactly what area of the discipline he's interested in. I suspect at this point he's not picky. I can find out if it is important. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. Believe me, I thought of you when his dad was telling me this. His dad is a good friend and former work associate, as well as a neighbor. The son is a good kid, good student and hard worker. He's been really going nuts trying to find something. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Absolutely. He has been applying for positions all over the US, from what his dad tells me. One of the issues I have seen is with employers not considering or giving less consideration to applicants from outside their geographic area, since the job pool is so deep these days. I know he's not expecting relocation expenses - he's a kid fresh out of college looking to start his career. He's got some serious student loans, so he's expecting to be poor for some time The family has a lot of relatives in the NYC/Northern NJ area, so he's looking at using one of the relative's addresses for applying in that area. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
North Dakota and west from there, lots of jobs due to the energy boom. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it have made more sense to get a job before the grad degree? Kicking the can, I presume. As long as you are attending school, the student loans payments are deferred. In the sixties and early seventies people stayed in school for draft deferments. In this generation, the incentive to stay in school as a professional student is student loan deferments. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
The schools also push a masters degree in engineering - telling the students that they will have a leg up when they hit the job market - On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it have made more sense to get a job before the grad degree? Kicking the can, I presume. As long as you are attending school, the student loans payments are deferred. In the sixties and early seventies people stayed in school for draft deferments. In this generation, the incentive to stay in school as a professional student is student loan deferments. Rick OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:39 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The schools also push a masters degree in engineering - telling the students that they will have a leg up when they hit the job market - The schools are run by accountants, I guess. Higher education is big business. It is the only segment of consumer lending that seems to be growing. There is over a trillion dollars in student loans outstanding. I have advised my youngest son to get an engineering degree, get a job, and then pursue a MBA or a JD (patent attorney). Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
The schools are pushing students to stay in school so they have jobs. The grad students usually don't pay tuition or take out loans - they they are assistants, do the research for the profs to write up and get credit for, etc. None of my kids paid a cent for the their masters degrees (three of them). I think your advise is good - will he take it? On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:39 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The schools also push a masters degree in engineering - telling the students that they will have a leg up when they hit the job market - The schools are run by accountants, I guess. Higher education is big business. It is the only segment of consumer lending that seems to be growing. There is over a trillion dollars in student loans outstanding. I have advised my youngest son to get an engineering degree, get a job, and then pursue a MBA or a JD (patent attorney). Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
Dan, Have him check out The Shaw Group.. A quick check on their web site shows some Civil Engineer jobs. There's even one in Boca Raton, Fla. http://www.shawgrp.com/careers Russ On 1/5/2013 14:53, Dan Penoff wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6009 - Release Date: 01/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:00 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think your advise is good - will he take it? Yep. Oldest kid thinks dad is old and dumb. Youngest kid thinks dad might still have a functioning brain cell or three. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick wrote: Civil engineering seems to be a dying field at present. For sure. I stopped looking when I was laid off. What firm did your girlfriend work at? Chicago news yesterday said Clayco (claycorp.com) is moving from St. Louis to Chicago and will be doubling their staff and looking for civil infrastructure firms/employees. I guess they are a national architectural firm. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: For sure. I stopped looking when I was laid off. What firm did your girlfriend work at? AECOM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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FWIW, I have an online friend of several years in India. He advises me there is a shortage of engineers in India and they are now hiring. Such a posting would be, perhaps, a major magnitude move for a young man, however, a job is a job in today s market. Perhaps worthy of a look on his part. I wish him all the best, Grant AZ...[Formerly worldwide] On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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North Dakota maybe. Not much spare change for civil engineering projects in the Northwest. Washington will process the dang things to death, deplete any funding for actually building it, and then say they never really wanted it anyway. Western Montana was rebuilding the bridges on I-90 from Idaho to Missoula last year. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 5, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Max Dillon wrote: North Dakota and west from there, lots of jobs due to the energy boom. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT
They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild what the idiots we have taking up space and breathable air in D.C. have allowed to go to pot clay On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:44 PM, G Mann wrote: FWIW, I have an online friend of several years in India. He advises me there is a shortage of engineers in India and they are now hiring. Such a posting would be, perhaps, a major magnitude move for a young man, however, a job is a job in today s market. Perhaps worthy of a look on his part. I wish him all the best, Grant AZ...[Formerly worldwide] On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern). I take it, then, that he's looking for a job in road construction and/or maintanance. He's been looking for work for nearly a year now (graduated in 2012 from grad school) without any luck. I know what that's like, having been looking in earnest since April 2012. If by some long shot of a chance anyone knows of or might have any leads for someone in this discipline, drop me a note off list, please. Is he willing to relocate? That's the first question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
