Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-11-02 Thread Dieselhead
I have seen a lot of different types on MBs.  also depends on if it 
is the original or a third party replacement.



My '81 300TD had a little rubber/plastic plug thing, I think my '83 
240D has a metal bung of some sort...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:08:14 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
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Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:


 Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking
 for trouble.


I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt.  Not sure about the W116
have not changed it yet.  I always just pull the lower hose.

In general be very careful with any threaded fittings on the radiator.
This includes oil cooler and transmission cooler connections.  You must
counter-hold the fitting with a second wrench when trying to open these
connections.


Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead

Pull the lower hose.

I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been 
intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been 
waiting for me, patiently, I hope.


On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils 
where one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's $2 
oil sucker. (As an aside, I bought a more expensive one - to do the 
oil on the boats, but have yet to try it out.) I put a wrench on the 
drain plug in the bottom of the radiator but it did not appear to 
want to budge. Any one think that it is safe to put an impact wrench 
on it? I wondered if a bit of impact might be safer than a long 
breaker bar.


Not sure that penetrating oil will do much going upwards and not 
anxious to put heat on it given things are soldered together etc. 
What other options do I have?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Brilliant.  Now why didn't I think of that.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pull the lower hose.


 I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending
 to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me,
 patiently, I hope.

 On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where
 one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's $2 oil sucker.
 (As an aside, I bought a more expensive one - to do the oil on the boats,
 but have yet to try it out.) I put a wrench on the drain plug in the bottom
 of the radiator but it did not appear to want to budge. Any one think that
 it is safe to put an impact wrench on it? I wondered if a bit of impact
 might be safer than a long breaker bar.

 Not sure that penetrating oil will do much going upwards and not anxious
 to put heat on it given things are soldered together etc. What other
 options do I have?

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Randy Bennell

That is way too practical.

Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the 
bung that I twisted out of my rad, or where the best place to buy a new 
rad is etc.


I might have to try to start a new oil thread.

Randy

On 31/10/2011 2:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Brilliant.  Now why didn't I think of that.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:


Pull the lower hose.


I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending

to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me,
patiently, I hope.

On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where
one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's $2 oil sucker.
(As an aside, I bought a more expensive one - to do the oil on the boats,
but have yet to try it out.) I put a wrench on the drain plug in the bottom
of the radiator but it did not appear to want to budge. Any one think that
it is safe to put an impact wrench on it? I wondered if a bit of impact
might be safer than a long breaker bar.

Not sure that penetrating oil will do much going upwards and not anxious
to put heat on it given things are soldered together etc. What other
options do I have?

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking for 
trouble.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

That is way too practical.

Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the bung 
that I twisted out of my rad, or where the best place to buy a new rad is etc.

I might have to try to start a new oil thread.

Randy

On 31/10/2011 2:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Brilliant.  Now why didn't I think of that.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:

Pull the lower hose.


I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending
to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me,
patiently, I hope.

On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where
one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's $2 oil sucker.
(As an aside, I bought a more expensive one - to do the oil on the boats,
but have yet to try it out.) I put a wrench on the drain plug in the bottom
of the radiator but it did not appear to want to budge. Any one think that
it is safe to put an impact wrench on it? I wondered if a bit of impact
might be safer than a long breaker bar.

Not sure that penetrating oil will do much going upwards and not anxious
to put heat on it given things are soldered together etc. What other
options do I have?

Randy




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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:

 Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking
 for trouble.

I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt.  Not sure about the W116
have not changed it yet.  I always just pull the lower hose.

In general be very careful with any threaded fittings on the radiator.
This includes oil cooler and transmission cooler connections.  You must
counter-hold the fitting with a second wrench when trying to open these
connections.


Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick
I don't believe I've ever had a problem with an MB coolant drain in  
the radiator.  Most W123s will have a plastic plug with a screwdriver  
slot and an o-ring seal, they don't need to be super tight and don't  
break.


The one on the 280 SE is a standard winged plug sort of drain, but  
it wasn't stuck either.


Later cars even provide a tube to slip some hose over to cleanly  
drain the coolant, it's easy as pie.


Not so much on my buddy's Jeep -- have to pull the grille and  
headlight surround to get to the stinking drain plug, which I need to  
do soon as the thermostat housing gasket is leaking.  Should have  
done it when I did the hoses, but I didn't know it was leaking at the  
time.


Peter

On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:


Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking
for trouble.


I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt.  Not sure about the W116
have not changed it yet.  I always just pull the lower hose.

In general be very careful with any threaded fittings on the radiator.
This includes oil cooler and transmission cooler connections.  You  
must
counter-hold the fitting with a second wrench when trying to open  
these

connections.


Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
My '81 300TD had a little rubber/plastic plug thing, I think my '83 240D has a 
metal bung of some sort...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:08:14 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:

 Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking
 for trouble.

I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt.  Not sure about the W116
have not changed it yet.  I always just pull the lower hose.

In general be very careful with any threaded fittings on the radiator.
This includes oil cooler and transmission cooler connections.  You must
counter-hold the fitting with a second wrench when trying to open these
connections.


Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD


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