Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
I think we are talking about two different cars. The one I bid on was located at Daytona Beach, FL. Tan --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me guess, a 190D that Tan was bidding on and lost by $100? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, the good deals dont last long. Y'all dont even want to know about the steal deal I just brought home. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Hi All. IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time. Marshall could correct me. But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D. And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out. For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed merging.. Definitely not your car. Just my opinion.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Disregarding the gearing possibilities-- the 190D should be faster -- 123 chassis 240D - 3250 Lb and 67 HP 201 chasis 190D - 2700 LB and 72 HP 240D - 48.5 Lb/HP 190D - 37.5 Lb/HP The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell. On 11/11/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time. Marshall could correct me. But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D. And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out. For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed merging.. Definitely not your car. Just my opinion.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
PTWRONG. This is the 123 HP 5 cylinder TURBO diesel (same engine found in the 124). It'll blow other MB diesels into the weeds. Very rare car. On 11/11/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disregarding the gearing possibilities-- the 190D should be faster -- 123 chassis 240D - 3250 Lb and 67 HP 201 chasis 190D - 2700 LB and 72 HP 240D - 48.5 Lb/HP 190D - 37.5 Lb/HP The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell. On 11/11/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time. Marshall could correct me. But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D. And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out. For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed merging.. Definitely not your car. Just my opinion.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Jeepers folks, that's a gen-yoo-wine rare find, and a killer price as well! Hope someone near there nabs it up, and quick. I wouldn't think twice about picking that thing up, and right now--seriously. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Bt!!! Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be in jail. Ron Dwelle 1982 240D 1985 190D euro 1987 190DT On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:47 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi All. IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time. Marshall could correct me. But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D. And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out. For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed merging.. Definitely not your car. Just my opinion.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
No, the 190D 2.2 was imported 1984 and 1985. The 2.5 was imported 1986 through 1989. The turbo model was imported only in 1987. Ron Dwelle On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:02 AM, OK Don wrote: The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5 turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct? See this pic: http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bt!!! Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be in jail. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk. Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted. Ron On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5 turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct? See this pic: http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bt!!! Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be in jail.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
For $1200 I wish some one here would buy it. That is why I posted it. I don't have $1200 to spare. Even if it isn't a turbo, it IS a pretty good deal. If it is a turbo, it is an extreme bargain... Rick Knoble - Original Message - From: Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk. Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted. Ron On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5 turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct? See this pic: http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bt!!! Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be in jail. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
It's sold. Ron Dwelle On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: For $1200 I wish some one here would buy it. That is why I posted it. I don't have $1200 to spare. Even if it isn't a turbo, it IS a pretty good deal. If it is a turbo, it is an extreme bargain... Rick Knoble - Original Message - From: Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk. Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted. Ron On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5 turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct? See this pic: http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bt!!! Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be in jail. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Rick Knoble wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html There were 3 190Ds brought officially to the US. There was the 201.122 190D 2.2 brought to the US in '84-'85. 72 HP, 0-62 mph ~19 sec (that's 5+ sec faster than a 240D) highway mpg ~36-37 (more economical than a 240D too). VERY nice car - even nicer with a 5 speed that makes EVERYTHING about it nicer. There was the 201.126 190D 2.5 brought to the US from '86-'89. 90 hp, 0-62 mph ~ 15 sec (faster than an '81-'85 300SD). Highway economy ~33-34 mpg. A 5 speed was available that also made everything else better, but VERY few of them were imported (my guess is no more than a few hundred). Finally there was the 201.128 190D 2.5 turbo 123 hp (119 in Calif). Only imported to the US in '87 and fewer than 1400 were brought over. 0-62 ~11 sec. Only available as an automatic. Really a nice car - matched PERFECTLY with the automatic transmission. I love 5 speeds (owned 3 of 'em), but the 190D 2.5t really is PERFECT with an automatic. There was a European 201.122 190D 2.0 (never officially brought to the US) that was manufactured from '83 thru the early '90s. ~70 SAE hp and a little less torque than the 2.2 version sold in the US. Nice VERY economical car. I've done well over 40 mph on the highway with the 5 speed I own (got 48 mpg once, but 42-43 much more usual and can drop below 40 with the AC cranking full blast or in the winter with winter fuel). Acceleration is a little slow - 18-19 sec to 62 mph - still MUCH faster and more economical than a 240D and much less work to maintain (no valves to adjust). Timing chain life of OM60x engines is routinely almost double what it is on OM61x engines using regular oil and about double that again using Mobil 1. With just a little care, the timing chain should last the life of the engine TWICE! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Yes, I called the guy as soon as the note from Rick appeared on the list. The seller had listed the car Thursday, and when I called him on Friday, he already had a deposit on the car. The buyer was supposed to show up 8 am Saturday morning with the cash. I asked the buyer to let me know. He e-mailed this morning--the guy showed up and paid for the car. So, such deals don't last long!!! Ron Dwelle On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: I hope the list maintains some collective memory for this, since it's a classic example of one of those legendary killer deals that pops up from time to time. I would've never believed an '87 190D 2.5 turbo in decent shape could be found for just $1200. damn damn damn On 11/11/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Casey
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
no, the good deals dont last long. Y'all dont even want to know about the steal deal I just brought home. Ron Dwelle wrote: Yes, I called the guy as soon as the note from Rick appeared on the list. The seller had listed the car Thursday, and when I called him on Friday, he already had a deposit on the car. The buyer was supposed to show up 8 am Saturday morning with the cash. I asked the buyer to let me know. He e-mailed this morning--the guy showed up and paid for the car. So, such deals don't last long!!! Ron Dwelle On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: I hope the list maintains some collective memory for this, since it's a classic example of one of those legendary killer deals that pops up from time to time. I would've never believed an '87 190D 2.5 turbo in decent shape could be found for just $1200. damn damn damn On 11/11/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Casey ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
The W201 diesels in good conditions are hard to find come by. I just lost on bidding one (1988 190D) located only 20 miles from me. That was almost one owner car (seller's grandpa bought new in 1988). I am looking for one to replace my unfortunate '82 240D that people here seem to like to run into it but haven't had much luck getting one yet! Tan --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeepers folks, that's a gen-yoo-wine rare find, and a killer price as well! Hope someone near there nabs it up, and quick. I wouldn't think twice about picking that thing up, and right now--seriously. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
Let me guess, a 190D that Tan was bidding on and lost by $100? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, the good deals dont last long. Y'all dont even want to know about the steal deal I just brought home.
