Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
Yeah, but around here it's near impossible to find DOT 4 at FLAPs. The only straight DOT 4 brake fluid I've found around here is made by some company called Ferodo and it's $17/liter. You have to go to a speed shop or someplace like that for anything else. I figure $13/quart at the MB dealer is about the same I would pay elsewhere Plus it comes in the cool gray plastic bottle with the pretty MB label. Looks nice on the shelf. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, but around here it's near impossible to find DOT 4 at FLAPs. The only straight DOT 4 brake fluid I've found around here is made by some company called Ferodo and it's $17/liter. You have to go to a speed shop or someplace like that for anything else. I figure $13/quart at the MB dealer is about the same I would pay elsewhere Plus it comes in the cool gray plastic bottle with the pretty MB label. Looks nice on the shelf. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
I use the MB dealer stuff now too. Reasonably priced, and for me at least, very convenient. Jaime On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
which is great but it's still DOT 3/4 and synthetic, my point being that those issues are already shown here to be specious by young rick. do you guys read any posts more than 10 words? On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I use the MB dealer stuff now too. Reasonably priced, and for me at least, very convenient. Jaime On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts.It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. THere was no such conclusion. Only anecdotal evidence that one brake system lasted a couple of years with no damage evident yet from the 3/4 stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
This sort of explains it http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-270204.html Hendrik who has dot 4 On 04/01/14 13:49, Dieselhead wrote: 3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts. It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
This sort of explains it http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-270204.html Hendrik who has dot 4 Thanks Hendrik, a good article, but it does not address the synthetic stuff that provoked this discussion. In the USA, the appearance of this DOT3/4 synthetic stuff has resulted in DOT 4 being discontinued in most places. So, I was glad when I found some quarts of Castrol GT brake fluid (DOT4) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
Last article. I now know more about brake fluid than I really ever wanted. Read this all the way through and you can too. http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/Pages/Brake_Fluid/brake_fluid_long.html DOT 3,3/4, 4 brake fluid is glycol based. Adding borates raises the boiling point for DOT4. Being that all of the above mentioned brake fluids are glycol based, they are all also synthetic. I have drawn the conclusion, possibly errant, that DOT 3/4 fluid is actually DOT 4, just labeled as 3/4 to imply that it is reverse compatible with systems that are said to require DOT3 fluid. Toyota has complained about using Dot4 fluid in some of their autos and lists only dot3 as specified for use. I will not be referencing any article on this as no one here probably cares. BTW, Citroën and RR use something entirely different. A very informative article, all in all. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet Original message From Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Date: 01/03/2014 9:21 PM (GMT-06:00) To Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid 3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts.It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
