Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
On 24/01/2013 6:22 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Randy, I find it interesting that you voiced objection to the gun posts, but think we should read your OT posts about electrical work and local Canadian issues, such as Japanese senior citizens. ust like RLE, all of your messages now go straight to bit bucket. Thanks, Brian Toscano I guess Brian will not get this response. Oh, well ... My objection to the gun posts was really just a suggestion that it is a subject that may lead to a fair amount of anger etc. It is like politics, religion, abortion, gay rights etc. Better just left alone and not debated on a forum such as this. If you want to argue about things like that, then go find a forum where that is what they do. People have very strong views and most people are not prepared to alter those views so it is a bit of a waste of time to spend a lot of time posting them no matter what side one is on. I also fear that some will get angry and just leave the forum which would be unfortunate. So, I am not opposed to OT posts. We learn a lot from what other people know. I am opposed to OT posts on subjects that are pretty much hopeless and will never be resolved. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
Well said, Randy. I would be just as upset if the forum were highjacked by a group of gun control advocates, even though this is the position I espouse privately, I do not feel this forum is the place to have such a controversial subject raised, and thrashed around, ad nauseum. ALS On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/01/2013 6:22 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Randy, I find it interesting that you voiced objection to the gun posts, but think we should read your OT posts about electrical work and local Canadian issues, such as Japanese senior citizens. ust like RLE, all of your messages now go straight to bit bucket. Thanks, Brian Toscano I guess Brian will not get this response. Oh, well ... My objection to the gun posts was really just a suggestion that it is a subject that may lead to a fair amount of anger etc. It is like politics, religion, abortion, gay rights etc. Better just left alone and not debated on a forum such as this. If you want to argue about things like that, then go find a forum where that is what they do. People have very strong views and most people are not prepared to alter those views so it is a bit of a waste of time to spend a lot of time posting them no matter what side one is on. I also fear that some will get angry and just leave the forum which would be unfortunate. So, I am not opposed to OT posts. We learn a lot from what other people know. I am opposed to OT posts on subjects that are pretty much hopeless and will never be resolved. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
Agreed! Can be finally be done with this! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said, Randy. I would be just as upset if the forum were highjacked by a group of gun control advocates, even though this is the position I espouse privately, I do not feel this forum is the place to have such a controversial subject raised, and thrashed around, ad nauseum. ALS On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/01/2013 6:22 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Randy, I find it interesting that you voiced objection to the gun posts, but think we should read your OT posts about electrical work and local Canadian issues, such as Japanese senior citizens. ust like RLE, all of your messages now go straight to bit bucket. Thanks, Brian Toscano I guess Brian will not get this response. Oh, well ... My objection to the gun posts was really just a suggestion that it is a subject that may lead to a fair amount of anger etc. It is like politics, religion, abortion, gay rights etc. Better just left alone and not debated on a forum such as this. If you want to argue about things like that, then go find a forum where that is what they do. People have very strong views and most people are not prepared to alter those views so it is a bit of a waste of time to spend a lot of time posting them no matter what side one is on. I also fear that some will get angry and just leave the forum which would be unfortunate. So, I am not opposed to OT posts. We learn a lot from what other people know. I am opposed to OT posts on subjects that are pretty much hopeless and will never be resolved. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
Randy, I find it interesting that you voiced objection to the gun posts, but think we should read your OT posts about electrical work and local Canadian issues, such as Japanese senior citizens. ust like RLE, all of your messages now go straight to bit bucket. Thanks, Brian Toscano whose family is half Canadian On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What culture? I taught my son to be careful, but fearful? No. Are you talking about the culture in your home town or is this yet another straw man? On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Without going to any discussion about guns, period, let us look at the true source of this young mans fear, how it was installed, who taught it to him, where it came from. We have in our society today a culture that teaches children to be fearful. In an older society, we were taught by example and entertainment [hollywood movies of that era] that the land of the brave existed and we [society] supported it. Our heros were men and women who did right and punished wrong. Now? Please draw your own conclusions. Respectfully, Grant... -off to watch another episode of Lone Ranger- On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My wife was talking with a young woman this weekend, who has 2 young children. She was relating the fact that her son, who is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are having drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun. This strikes me as a bit over the top. The young fellow goes to school in Steinbach, Manitoba. Steinbach is a small town about 30 miles east of Winnipeg. I should think that the likelihood of someone showing up at the school with a gun is fairly remote. The young boy is truly afraid that something bad is going to happen at school. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
My wife was talking with a young woman this weekend, who has 2 young children. She was relating the fact that her son, who is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are having drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun. This strikes me as a bit over the top. The young fellow goes to school in Steinbach, Manitoba. Steinbach is a small town about 30 miles east of Winnipeg. I should think that the likelihood of someone showing up at the school with a gun is fairly remote. The young boy is truly afraid that something bad is going to happen at school. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
On 19/01/2013 7:24 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: We had an incident this week where an elementary student brought a toy gun to school in their backpack, and it was reported by a fellow student. No discipline was taken, just a Parent Link call made to all of the households about not allowing their children to bring any sort of weapon, toy or otherwise, to school. It barely made the news. Dan Sent from my iPad When I was a young fellow, we played cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians at recess. I remember wearing my gunbelt to school with my 2 six-shooters. The teacher made us take them off during class and leave them against the wall at the back of the classroom. My, how times have changed in my lifetime. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
Without going to any discussion about guns, period, let us look at the true source of this young mans fear, how it was installed, who taught it to him, where it came from. We have in our society today a culture that teaches children to be fearful. In an older society, we were taught by example and entertainment [hollywood movies of that era] that the land of the brave existed and we [society] supported it. Our heros were men and women who did right and punished wrong. Now? Please draw your own conclusions. Respectfully, Grant... -off to watch another episode of Lone Ranger- On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My wife was talking with a young woman this weekend, who has 2 young children. She was relating the fact that her son, who is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are having drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun. This strikes me as a bit over the top. The young fellow goes to school in Steinbach, Manitoba. Steinbach is a small town about 30 miles east of Winnipeg. I should think that the likelihood of someone showing up at the school with a gun is fairly remote. The young boy is truly afraid that something bad is going to happen at school. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
What culture? I taught my son to be careful, but fearful? No. Are you talking about the culture in your home town or is this yet another straw man? On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Without going to any discussion about guns, period, let us look at the true source of this young mans fear, how it was installed, who taught it to him, where it came from. We have in our society today a culture that teaches children to be fearful. In an older society, we were taught by example and entertainment [hollywood movies of that era] that the land of the brave existed and we [society] supported it. Our heros were men and women who did right and punished wrong. Now? Please draw your own conclusions. Respectfully, Grant... -off to watch another episode of Lone Ranger- On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My wife was talking with a young woman this weekend, who has 2 young children. She was relating the fact that her son, who is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are having drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun. This strikes me as a bit over the top. The young fellow goes to school in Steinbach, Manitoba. Steinbach is a small town about 30 miles east of Winnipeg. I should think that the likelihood of someone showing up at the school with a gun is fairly remote. The young boy is truly afraid that something bad is going to happen at school. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's way easier picking on innocent 5 year olds than an adult who has real guns and is a serious threat to do real mayhem. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: After the following incident I'm convinced that gun possession is a serious risk, that all guns should be confiscated, and that the penalties for possession should be severe: MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. - A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten. Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two. Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a terrorist threat for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus. Ficker says the girl didn't even have the bubble gun with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she's the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania. School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com ( http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren't at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions. http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2020166781_apusbubblegunsuspension.html Gerry..who is turning in his soap bubble guns tomorrow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
We had an incident this week where an elementary student brought a toy gun to school in their backpack, and it was reported by a fellow student. No discipline was taken, just a Parent Link call made to all of the households about not allowing their children to bring any sort of weapon, toy or otherwise, to school. It barely made the news. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: After the following incident I'm convinced that gun possession is a serious risk, that all guns should be confiscated, and that the penalties for possession should be severe: MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. - A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten. Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two. Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a terrorist threat for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus. Ficker says the girl didn't even have the bubble gun with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she's the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania. School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com ( http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren't at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions. http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2020166781_apusbubblegunsuspension.html Gerry..who is turning in his soap bubble guns tomorrow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment
Dan Penoff wrote: We had an incident this week where an elementary student brought a toy gun to school in their backpack, and it was reported by a fellow student. No discipline was taken, just a Parent Link call made to all of the households about not allowing their children to bring any sort of weapon, toy or otherwise, to school. It barely made the news. Kids taking toys to school is not news. Kids being denied their education because they took toys to school, now that's news, and I hope it doesn't become 'not news'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
