Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels

2005-11-24 Thread redghost
feed them lead paint, partially hydrogenated foods, make them smoke, 
eat meat, go to discos, and drink, a BUNCH.


Then we can call them europeans and ignore the whole mess

On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:


THat is pure right-wing oil company propaganda.

The forests are being cut for lumber, farm land, and MONEY.  Most of 
the damage is a result of the huge overpopulation of the thrids world. 
 We saved all the children in the 60's and now there are nearly ten 
times as many people, who all, of course, want to eat and have 
somewhere to live and to have a raft of kids.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels

2005-11-24 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Funny, I would've applied most of those qualities to Americans...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/23/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 feed them lead paint, partially hydrogenated foods, make them smoke,
 eat meat, go to discos, and drink, a BUNCH.

 Then we can call them europeans and ignore the whole mess



Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels

2005-11-23 Thread Peter Frederick
THat is pure right-wing oil company propaganda.

The forests are being cut for lumber, farm land, and MONEY.  Most of the damage 
is a result of the huge overpopulation of the thrids world.  We saved all the 
children in the 60's and now there are nearly ten times as many people, who 
all, of course, want to eat and have somewhere to live and to have a raft of 
kids.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels

2005-11-23 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Perhaps the solution is to educate all those saved children.
Educated cultures have lower birthrates than illiterate ones, so it
would slow their growth. But wait, as they become educated and
literate, they become consumers. Soon these third world countries will
be raised out of the gutters, but will consume more and more as they
progress to first world status.

So what'll it be, starving kids or another raped continent? That's why
this energy thing has to be sorted out now. We need clean renewable
resources asap, because soon there will be much bigger population that
we helped along, who's going to want a piece of the pie.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/23/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 THat is pure right-wing oil company propaganda.

 The forests are being cut for lumber, farm land, and MONEY.  Most of the 
 damage is a result of the huge overpopulation of the thrids world.  We 
 saved all the children in the 60's and now there are nearly ten times as 
 many people, who all, of course, want to eat and have somewhere to live and 
 to have a raft of kids.

 Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Forests paying the price for biofuels

2005-11-22 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Well at least it is diverting attention away from the real reason 
rainforests are being turned into farm land, running herds of cattle to feed 
McDonalds appetite for beef.
At least if they grew a crop of something it would produce oxygen, rather 
than methane from cattle.


Hendrik

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Another one...

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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news_rss20


   Forests paying the price for biofuels

   * 22 November 2005
   * NewScientist.com news service
   * Fred Pearce

THE drive for green energy in the developed world is having the
perverse effect of encouraging the destruction of tropical rainforests.
From the orang-utan reserves of Borneo to the Brazilian Amazon, virgin
forest is being razed to grow palm oil and soybeans to fuel cars and
power stations in Europe and North America. And surging prices are
likely to accelerate the destruction MORE


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