Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

More likely Floyd is allergic to salt.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:38 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Yes, the placebo effect is amazing.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:10 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > >Weird, I still don't understand how I had a rxn to the shots, which I
> was
> > told were only saline in the placebo.
> >
> > The subconscious mind has tremendous power.
> > Look up "placebo effect".
> >
> > >So anyway I will go on 24Feb to get the first stab then some time later
> > to get the second
> >
> > If I had co-morbidities, I would get the shot. If I did not (and I do
> not)
> > have co-morbidities, I would not get the shot. That's me, and my
> > interpretation of the data and statistics available.
> >
> > YMMV,
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, the placebo effect is amazing.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:10 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >Weird, I still don't understand how I had a rxn to the shots, which I was
> told were only saline in the placebo.
>
> The subconscious mind has tremendous power.
> Look up "placebo effect".
>
> >So anyway I will go on 24Feb to get the first stab then some time later
> to get the second
>
> If I had co-morbidities, I would get the shot. If I did not (and I do not)
> have co-morbidities, I would not get the shot. That's me, and my
> interpretation of the data and statistics available.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

When I was at the hospital they tested me and it came up negative. Of course 
could have been positive but seems the tests are not always accurate. 

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> On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> What the hell are co-morbidities?
> 
> Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, kidney disease,  etc. Here's a list, 
> pulmonary embolism isn't on it.
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html
> 
> As much as you travel for work, I wouldn't be surprised if you already had 
> it. You can have t cell immunity, and it won't show up on an antibody test. 
> BTW, pulmonary embolism is one of the effects of Covid, so I would probably 
> get the vaccine if a t cell test doesn't show immunity. I am not a doctor, 
> and I am not giving medical advice. Do your own research.
> 
> https://bgr.com/2020/11/12/coronavirus-immunity-test-t-cell-adaptive-biotechnologies-study/
> 
>> Would previous blood clots in the lungs qualify?
> 
> Probably. Ask a medical professional. There are a couple here on the list.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>What the hell are co-morbidities?

Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, kidney disease,  etc. Here's a list, 
pulmonary embolism isn't on it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

As much as you travel for work, I wouldn't be surprised if you already had it. 
You can have t cell immunity, and it won't show up on an antibody test. BTW, 
pulmonary embolism is one of the effects of Covid, so I would probably get the 
vaccine if a t cell test doesn't show immunity. I am not a doctor, and I am not 
giving medical advice. Do your own research.

https://bgr.com/2020/11/12/coronavirus-immunity-test-t-cell-adaptive-biotechnologies-study/

>Would previous blood clots in the lungs qualify?

Probably. Ask a medical professional. There are a couple here on the list.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What the hell are co-morbidities? Would previous blood clots in the lungs 
qualify?

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> On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Weird, I still don't understand how I had a rxn to the shots, which I was 
>> told were only saline in the placebo.
> 
> The subconscious mind has tremendous power.
> Look up "placebo effect".
> 
>> So anyway I will go on 24Feb to get the first stab then some time later to 
>> get the second
> 
> If I had co-morbidities, I would get the shot. If I did not (and I do not) 
> have co-morbidities, I would not get the shot. That's me, and my 
> interpretation of the data and statistics available.
> 
> YMMV,
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Weird, I still don't understand how I had a rxn to the shots, which I was told 
>were only saline in the placebo.

The subconscious mind has tremendous power.
Look up "placebo effect".

>So anyway I will go on 24Feb to get the first stab then some time later to get 
>the second

If I had co-morbidities, I would get the shot. If I did not (and I do not) have 
co-morbidities, I would not get the shot. That's me, and my interpretation of 
the data and statistics available.

YMMV,

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday! and Covids

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"What I used to do all night now takes all night to do"

I started going back to the gym to work out last week, decided to stare 
the covids in the spikes (the place is very large and hardly used when I 
go, very clean, gotta carry a bottle of disinfectant around to clean the 
machines after use).  I was feeling awful not working out, it is feeling 
good now getting some muscles stretched and strengthened.  I figure the 
risk is worth it as I consider other health aspects of being a slug and 
getting fat (I definitely put on the Covid 19, my trousers have shrunk!).


On another aspect I have related that I participated in the Astra Zeneca 
covids vax trial here, got my shots in Nov/Dec and had a rxn to both 
which led me to believe I got the actual vax although I cheated and went 
and got antibody tests which were both negative.  These tests are not 
particularly reliable so that didn't mean much.


On Monday the state "allowed" those in my age group to sign up for a 
Pfizer vax so i did that and got my first shot scheduled for 29Mar and 
the second for 24Feb (yes their scheduling app was a total disaster, I 
have no idea how it managed that). I went to get a blood draw on 
Thursday as part of the ongoing trial follow-up so told the girl that I 
had an appt for the Pfizer vax, could they unblind me to find out if I 
got the vax or not.  Before I got home I got an email saying I got the 
placebo.  Weird, I still don't understand how I had a rxn to the shots, 
which I was told were only saline in the placebo.


In any case it appears that having 2 vaccines is not an issue if indeed 
I had gotten the actual AZ vax.  A MD/PhD drug dev kind of guy friend 
who worked on setting up the trial here has talked to both AZ and Pfizer 
scientists about any additive issues, they are still kinda uncertain on 
it but don't believe there would be any problems but maybe not any 
additional protections.  Early indications are that the AZ vax is not as 
effective on the new mutations as is Pfizer but they are not totally 
sure yet.  The Pfizer (as well as Moderna) and AZ vaxxes are different 
types but both apparently effective so something to consider if you have 
choices.  The AZ vax is not yet approved in the US for reasons unclear 
but it is being rolled out elsewhere including Europe and India and many 
other countries.


So anyway I will go on 24Feb to get the first stab then some time later 
to get the second (which should be sooner than 29Mar, I will have to get 
them to organize that).


--FT


On 2/13/21 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If 60 is geezerdom, I’m already there.

Mrs. Dan often complains about being “old”. I don’t get this, as I don’t 
consider myself old. I can still do just about anything I put my mind to, 
albeit maybe not as well as I did 10-20 years ago, but I’m by no means feeble.

This being said, some things I “could” do I choose not to because I have that 
luxury.

If that’s geezerdom, I’m good with it.

Gotta go - I need to yell at the neighbor kids on my lawn.

-D


On Feb 13, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

Well thanks, Dan. Geezerdom isn’t too bad. A few things start to not work as 
well as they once did but, if you are living right, you become more cunning, 
sly and clever to make up for it.
2020 was supposed to be the big tour Europe year celebrating 60 years old, 40 
years married but the covid had other ideas. This year the focus is retirement 
prep and keeping the Covid and the cancer at bay.
I think I’ll play a round of golf, have a couple Old Fashions and have a Costco 
cake (very old guilty pleasure from the poor, living in a single wide days).

As Bob

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On Feb 13, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Geezerness is a state of mind except at the grocery store on Thursdays when 
you get an extra 5% discount.

PRO TIP:  It helps to have a younger woman with whom to consort...

--FT


On 2/13/21 8:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Bob’s a geezer. I’m approaching geezerness, but looking forward to it.

Happy belated birthday!

-D


On Feb 13, 2021, at 8:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Is it indeed? Happy birthday!

Mine was last week. I can no longer claim I'm in my early 40s...

Curt

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On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:
To AZ Bob!

-D

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