Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True, but consider that it would be isolated to the area where the fire was, 
and not the rest of the house.  Believe it or not, insurers give some hefty 
discounts for homes equipped with sprinkler systems.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 2:37 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The water damage would truly mess up the house in any event.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
The water damage would truly mess up the house in any event.


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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 
Heads up OK listers! 
That sucks for them, for sure.

And the reason why the next house I build, if I ever do build again, will have 
sprinklers.  The initial cost to include them in the build isn’t that 
significant relative to the total cost of the home, and they reduce the 
insurance cost and almost totally assure the likelihood of survival of a fire 
with minimal damage.

We considered it on the house we built in WI.  At the time (1991) it would have 
added about $5k to the total cost of the house ($120k) but would have cut our 
insurance over 50%/year.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hard Red Wheat. and weads.
> 
> Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
> ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
> smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
> hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
> arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
> down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
> 8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
> No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
> of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That sucks for them, for sure.

And the reason why the next house I build, if I ever do build again, will have 
sprinklers.  The initial cost to include them in the build isn’t that 
significant relative to the total cost of the home, and they reduce the 
insurance cost and almost totally assure the likelihood of survival of a fire 
with minimal damage.

We considered it on the house we built in WI.  At the time (1991) it would have 
added about $5k to the total cost of the house ($120k) but would have cut our 
insurance over 50%/year.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hard Red Wheat. and weads.
> 
> Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
> ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
> smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
> hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
> arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
> down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
> 8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
> No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
> of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hard Red Wheat. and weads.

Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What grows best in that red soil?
>
> On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> > country.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> > 13,
> > > 2018
> > >
> > > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > > people to leave their homes.
> > >
> > > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries
> have
> > > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > > Lehenbauer.
> > >
> > > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> > from
> > > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> > >
> > > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> > the
> > > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports
> (Associated
> > > Press
> > > <
> > > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> > 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > > >,
> > > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Rednecks?


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Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
<astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers! 
What grows best in that red soil?

On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> country.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> 13,
> > 2018
> >
> > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > people to leave their homes.
> >
> > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > Lehenbauer.
> >
> > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> from
> > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> the
> > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> > Press
> > <
> > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > >,
> > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What grows best in that red soil?

On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> country.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> 13,
> > 2018
> >
> > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > people to leave their homes.
> >
> > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > Lehenbauer.
> >
> > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> from
> > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> the
> > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> > Press
> > <
> > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > >,
> > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
country.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April 13,
> 2018
>
> An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> people to leave their homes.
>
> The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> Lehenbauer.
>
> Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles from
> Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
>
> Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in the
> state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> Press
> <
> https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> >,
> April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Andrew those will buff right out... ;))

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yikes.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I should have offered up this link first:
> > https://www.copart.com/lotSearchResults/?free=true=burn%20mercedes
> >
> > Anything damaged by an outside source of fire, as opposed to an
> individual
> > car fire, is going to look more like this
> > https://www.copart.com/lot/29255958
> >
> > and less like this
> > https://www.copart.com/lot/24128218
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yikes.

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>
> I should have offered up this link first:
> https://www.copart.com/lotSearchResults/?free=true=burn%20mercedes
>
> Anything damaged by an outside source of fire, as opposed to an individual
> car fire, is going to look more like this
> https://www.copart.com/lot/29255958
>
> and less like this
> https://www.copart.com/lot/24128218
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

I should have offered up this link first:
https://www.copart.com/lotSearchResults/?free=true=burn%20mercedes

Anything damaged by an outside source of fire, as opposed to an individual car 
fire, is going to look more like this
https://www.copart.com/lot/29255958

and less like this
https://www.copart.com/lot/24128218

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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

> On April 13, 2018 at 2:34 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder if Copart will be offering any fire damaged cars...


AKA rusty scrap metal...
https://www.copart.com/lot/18912387

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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

2018-04-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wonder if Copart will be offering any fire damaged cars...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yup - we're watching for them. Those fires are in the far west, I'm in the
> central area, and Kaleb is NE.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> 13,
> > 2018
> >
> > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > people to leave their homes.
> >
> > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > Lehenbauer.
> >
> > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> from
> > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> the
> > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> > Press
> >  > 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma>,
> > April 13). *— CS*
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2018-04-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yup - we're watching for them. Those fires are in the far west, I'm in the
central area, and Kaleb is NE.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April 13,
> 2018
>
> An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> people to leave their homes.
>
> The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> Lehenbauer.
>
> Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles from
> Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
>
> Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in the
> state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> Press
>  96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma>,
> April 13). *— CS*
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