Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
Thanks E.! - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights hi Tom! i'd suggest starting with a good set of H4 'euro-code' lamps; truly good quality lights are definitely worth the money, and you'll quickly wonder why you didn't switch to a set of 'real' lights sooner! i've used a variety of them over the last couple of decades in multiple vehicles, and my preference has been for Cibié lamps with Osram Bulbs. (i'm using a set of Narva +50 bulbs in our 300D now that are proving to be a close second.) my issues with the Hellas we've tried are twofold; one is that the high and low beam patterns are typically too far apart, so that if you have the high beams aimed properly down the road, the low beams will not project far enough forward. the second is that the lenses on the Hellas seem to be more brittle; the H4 users in my family have had more Hella lenses break than all others combined. as for anything labeled Zenon/Xenon, i wouldn't spend *anything* for it. most of what's advertised under the misuse of those terms isn't appropriate, and some is actually detrimental. if you're using true H4 sealed bulb lamps, you have your choice of bulbs in a variety of Wattage combinations already if you decide you need more than the typical 55/60W. (most people quickly find out that with proper lamps, they don't need extra wattage like they thought they might.) try what's been working for most of the rest of the world where they weren't subject to the arcane absurdities of DOT lighting regulations first, then see if you need to do anything else. ;-) this can can be a lot of help: http://www.danielsternlighting.com cheers! e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do allot of 1:00AM in the morning driving schlepping all over the Northeast with work. Eyes are getting worse. Car is a 1979 240D. Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
Those, if Euro standard, will use H4 halogens instead of Xenon (no Xenon discharge lamps that long ago!). They will be a vast improvement on the DOT headlights, and $87 is cheap. I'd go for it, I replaced the headlights on my 87 300D after an encounter with a giant wood rat -- the difference is hard to believe if you haven't experienced it. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:57:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do allot of 1:00AM in the morning driving schlepping all over the Northeast with work. Eyes are getting worse. Car is a 1979 240D. Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? Which Hella lights? Are they xenon short-arc, or glorified halogen (quartz iodide) bulbs with xenon and maybe blue tint. If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? 87 smackers sounds a little cheap for real xenon short-arcs, so it must be something else. I've just changed from USA spec lights to Euro lights with halogen bulbs. Makes a lot of difference. Even the Euro lights were more than 87 smackers -- IIRC they were more than 87 smackers apiece, from eBay. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
Craig McCluskey wrote: 87 smackers sounds a little cheap for real xenon short-arcs, so it must be something else. I've just changed from USA spec lights to Euro lights with halogen bulbs. Makes a lot of difference. Even the Euro lights were more than 87 smackers -- IIRC they were more than 87 smackers apiece, from eBay. If we're talking about the H4 replacements for 7 DOT sealed-beam lamps, I know J.C. Whitney has them pretty cheap. I've heard the reflectors on the J.C. Whitney ones tend to tarnish, though.
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
You might get better bang for the bucks to swap out to the real euro headlamps with better lighting all around. I found that Gump using euros was much better than upgrades to the sealed beams she came with. No matter who made the sealed beams, those euro bulbs were just better On Dec 19, 2006, at 3:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do allot of 1:00AM in the morning driving schlepping all over the Northeast with work. Eyes are getting worse. Car is a 1979 240D. Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? What you want, for the cheapest/easiest thing, is to replace the USDOT sealed beams with the Hella aftermarket E-code rounds. Performance Products has them. There are also Cibie units that may be even better. Then you put in H4 bulbs, and if you really want light you can relay them and put in hotter than normal bulbs. Magnifique. For even more high-beam fun you can replace the fogs with the 5 Hela E-code high beams. But then you'd probably want to put some bumper-mount fogs on to replace the stocks, assuming you ever get bad fog where you are. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
Thanks for the info You guys are Hella good guys/Tom - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? What you want, for the cheapest/easiest thing, is to replace the USDOT sealed beams with the Hella aftermarket E-code rounds. Performance Products has them. There are also Cibie units that may be even better. Then you put in H4 bulbs, and if you really want light you can relay them and put in hotter than normal bulbs. Magnifique. For even more high-beam fun you can replace the fogs with the 5 Hela E-code high beams. But then you'd probably want to put some bumper-mount fogs on to replace the stocks, assuming you ever get bad fog where you are. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights
I wear yellow tinted safety glasses for squash and they brighten the court considerably. You may want to consider ordering prescription lenses in yellow. On 12/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info You guys are Hella good guys/Tom - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights Anyone hook up these Hella lights with zenon bulbs on a 123 chassis? If so is it a noticeable difference, is it worth 87 smackers plus freight? What you want, for the cheapest/easiest thing, is to replace the USDOT sealed beams with the Hella aftermarket E-code rounds. Performance Products has them. There are also Cibie units that may be even better. Then you put in H4 bulbs, and if you really want light you can relay them and put in hotter than normal bulbs. Magnifique. For even more high-beam fun you can replace the fogs with the 5 Hela E-code high beams. But then you'd probably want to put some bumper-mount fogs on to replace the stocks, assuming you ever get bad fog where you are. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
