Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
I didn't see one decent weld on the whole tube frame. Those guys are practicing engineers today. Scary! As a rule, engineers don't tend to do the welding on the products they design professionally. We have people for that! I have personally made some of the worst welds I've ever seen. But I try not to let that take the fun out of it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Sometimes if you know you're keeping it for life, it's easier to spend money on them. All part of sorting an old car out. Ed 300E 2008/5/14 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. What frame? These are unibody cars, with subframe suspension, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Still a frame of sorts even if not the old style full frame. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. What frame? These are unibody cars, with subframe suspension, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com, 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
I have no idea. My talents never ran toward the mechanical end of things. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. What frame? These are unibody cars, with subframe suspension, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Are we talking about the subframe that the engine is mounted in and the front suspension attaches to? Did I hear somewhere that there are sometimes cracks that occur where the steering box mounts to the frame, or am I thinking of another vehicle? I know it happens to others - not sure if it applies to MB's. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:44 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com, 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Guess I'll learn a lot more tomorrow. Thanks for what I take to be encouragement about the frame crack. We do have some good welders around these parts. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:44 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com, 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Oh man what a bummer, that is not anything I would want to hear either. I guess that might be that groaning I was hearing when stopping, starting or turning a corner. I hope it will be possible to repair the cracks without to great a cost. Manfred Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Same on a unibody, only you can't box the top, just bottom and 2 sides. recoat with rustproofing. At 04:44 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote: How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com, 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
A groaning sound under those conditions would be consistent with a substantial frame crack. If you want a really good weld, find the local guy who is building a tubing frame homebuilt airplane, or a good A+P mechanic with emphasis on the A! When you weld on airframes, you don't want failures. I saw the frame for a university solar car several years back. I would not have even sat in it in a stationary position, mush less in a solar race. I didn't see one decent weld on the whole tube frame. Those guys are practicing engineers today. Scary! Give me a German-trained machinist any day! (don't mean to offend you P.E.s on the list, but I am sure you have seen similar things.) At 11:05 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote: Oh man what a bummer, that is not anything I would want to hear either. I guess that might be that groaning I was hearing when stopping, starting or turning a corner. I hope it will be possible to repair the cracks without to great a cost. Manfred Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
