subject:"Re\: \[MBZ\] New Parkinsons Treatment\?"

Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes

Might be a left brain-right brain motion and eye movement integration.  I seem 
to recall something where the treatment was and eye movement exercise, which 
somehow re-integrated the hemispheres.

clay

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:40 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's interesting, Curt. Since ordinary exercise doesn't help Parkinsons 
> significantly, why does boxing?
> 
> https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/exercise-programs-incorporating-boxing-skills-may-help-manage-symptoms-of/


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Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 The body is pretty amazing. Years ago we were at the range and this group 
shows up to bring granddad out to shoot.  The old guy got out a 1911 Colt .45 
but to load the magazine into the gun he had to put both on the table and push 
them together. He shook like a leaf in a bad wind.We all stood back expecting 
this to all go horribly wrong. 

Well the old guy stands up, settles into position and proceeds to put 5 shots 
in the 9 or 10 ring at 50 yards! While he was shooting he didn't even wiggle, 
solid as a rock. We thanked him for coming out and putting on the 
demonstration...
-Curt

On Sunday, December 1, 2019, 6:19:42 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 No answers from me, but I did see something similar that was amazing.   
This was 10 yrs ago.   #1 daughter and I had to stay over a night i=on 
Oahu, so we snagged a room in the back rows of Waikiki, but near the 
zoo.  After dark, we walked through Duke's alley, and down to the beach, 
near the police station. (First hotel on the beach side of Kalakaua)(or 
opposite end from Ft. DeRussey)

There were a few people there near the surfboard racks, and a few of us 
onlookers.  One onlooker was a lady in a wheelchair, probably about 
55.   It looked like she had MS.  after an hour or so, she asked them to 
play a certain song.  It was clear they all gathered there often and 
knew each other.  (A little hui) She got up out of the wheelchair and 
proceeded to hula for a good 5 min or so, and while she was dancing, 
you'd never know anything was wrong with her.   Then it was over and she 
was back in the wheelchair.   It seemed the music and willpower reversed 
the disease for an interlude.

> archer75--- via Mercedes 
> December 1, 2019 at 11:40 AM
> That's interesting, Curt. Since ordinary exercise doesn't help 
> Parkinsons significantly, why does boxing?
>
> https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/exercise-programs-incorporating-boxing-skills-may-help-manage-symptoms-of/
>
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 15:03:00 + (UTC)
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 Danged if I know. One thing he talked about was that it needed to be "forced 
exertion" so no just going through the motions at the gym. Maybe thats why 
boxing, since the trainer can really push you.
Heres a link to the podcast: 
https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/boxing-treatment-parkinsons-disease/



-Curt

On Sunday, December 1, 2019, 12:40:42 PM EST, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 That's interesting, Curt. Since ordinary exercise doesn't help Parkinsons 
significantly, why does boxing?

https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/exercise-programs-incorporating-boxing-skills-may-help-manage-symptoms-of/

On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 15:03:00 + (UTC)
Curt Raymond via Mercedes  wrote:

> There is an interesting Art of Manliness podcast with a guy who is using 
> boxing training to treat Parkinson's. His results are astonishing and it's a 
> really good interview.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 5:16 AM, archer75--- via 
>Mercedes wrote:  Know anyone with Parkinsons disease 
>(muscle tremor), "essential tremor"?
> 
> Parkinson's and essential tremor patients reported marked improvements in 
> their quality of life after ultrasound treatment.
> 
> https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/11/27/Ultrasound-treatment-might-relieve-Parkinsons-tremors/8671574884860/?ts_=17
> 
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

No answers from me, but I did see something similar that was amazing.   
This was 10 yrs ago.   #1 daughter and I had to stay over a night i=on 
Oahu, so we snagged a room in the back rows of Waikiki, but near the 
zoo.  After dark, we walked through Duke's alley, and down to the beach, 
near the police station. (First hotel on the beach side of Kalakaua)(or 
opposite end from Ft. DeRussey)


There were a few people there near the surfboard racks, and a few of us 
onlookers.  One onlooker was a lady in a wheelchair, probably about 
55.   It looked like she had MS.  after an hour or so, she asked them to 
play a certain song.  It was clear they all gathered there often and 
knew each other.  (A little hui) She got up out of the wheelchair and 
proceeded to hula for a good 5 min or so, and while she was dancing, 
you'd never know anything was wrong with her.   Then it was over and she 
was back in the wheelchair.   It seemed the music and willpower reversed 
the disease for an interlude.



archer75--- via Mercedes 
December 1, 2019 at 11:40 AM
That's interesting, Curt. Since ordinary exercise doesn't help 
Parkinsons significantly, why does boxing?


https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/exercise-programs-incorporating-boxing-skills-may-help-manage-symptoms-of/

On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 15:03:00 + (UTC)




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Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

That's interesting, Curt. Since ordinary exercise doesn't help Parkinsons 
significantly, why does boxing?

https://www.brainandlife.org/articles/exercise-programs-incorporating-boxing-skills-may-help-manage-symptoms-of/

On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 15:03:00 + (UTC)
Curt Raymond via Mercedes  wrote:

> There is an interesting Art of Manliness podcast with a guy who is using 
> boxing training to treat Parkinson's. His results are astonishing and it's a 
> really good interview.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 5:16 AM, archer75--- via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Know anyone with Parkinsons disease 
> (muscle tremor), "essential tremor"?
> 
> Parkinson's and essential tremor patients reported marked improvements in 
> their quality of life after ultrasound treatment.
> 
> https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/11/27/Ultrasound-treatment-might-relieve-Parkinsons-tremors/8671574884860/?ts_=17
> 
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] New Parkinsons Treatment?

2019-12-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

One thing to be aware of is that the dopamine meds the docs give
Parkinson's disease patients can have some significant side effects that
need to be monitored. Dopamine inhibitors are given to people with
manic behaviors, so when you give dopamine to someone it can cause manic
behaviors that can manifest in various undesirable activities.

--FT

On 12/1/19 11:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

My sister in law was just diagnosed a few months ago. Despite modern medical
science, it seems like there’s not a lot of proven approaches for addressing
the symptoms. She said she’s going through four rounds of pharmaceutical tests
to see what works best for her tremors. Some of the meds she’s been on have to
be taken like every four hours, or something like that.

Fortunately, she gets around OK and is still working and driving, as her
symptoms are relatively minor at this point.

-D

On Dec 1, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:

I just saw my ex-BIL on Friday. He has had Parkinson's disease for several
years now and is not doing well. I had not seen him for maybe 3 years, I was
surprised at the decline. He's been through all the treatments but comes a
point where nothing really works anymore. He was golfing up until a coupla
years ago, then got into something called pickle ball, but alas that is now
passed. The physical activity really did help a lot with his movement and
balance and such for quite some time. He is having much harder time getting
around even with the drugs and a deep-brain stimulator and almost everything
that he has tried, and he just wears out very quickly now. His cognition is
declining now too. He had to move into an assisted living center a few weeks
ago as he was getting to be a bit much to leave at home alone, and for the
family to care for. I think he is maybe 58 or so now. It is a horrible
disease. I'm not sure how much time he will have left, he has indicated he
does not want to get to the point of being a veg and has assessed alternatives
to that end.

--FT

On 12/1/19 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

There is an interesting Art of Manliness podcast with a guy who is using boxing
training to treat Parkinson's. His results are astonishing and it's a really
good interview.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 5:16 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
wrote: Know anyone with Parkinsons disease (muscle tremor), "essential tremor"?

Parkinson's and essential tremor patients reported marked improvements in their
quality of life after ultrasound treatment.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/11/27/Ultrasound-treatment-might-relieve-Parkinsons-tremors/8671574884860/?ts_=17

Gerry

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