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Luther wrote:
What about the tranny dipstick??
0.3 liters (0.32 qt). That's from the Maintenance Manual ('81-'93) job
2710.
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Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D On 6/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the correct dipstick. It can be low and still shift fine. Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 6/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. Better too low than too high! (Just like engine oil on diesels.) BTW, Brian, I noticed this weekend while checking _my_ tranny fluid that the part number on my 124's dipstick also starts with 126---same part for all 60x engines, maybe. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you don't know what is in the tranny, or how old it is, I'd suggest you drain it all out, change the filter, and refill with M1 ATF. Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. Brian 87 190D On 6/25/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't know what is in the tranny, or how old it is, I'd suggest you drain it all out, change the filter, and refill with M1 ATF. Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. ALSO: the seller brought me a quart of Lubro Moly ATF III. I've been adding regular old Mercon/Dexron III that I got from the Shell station. Can I mix it? The Lubro Moly bottle says it's mineral based. Brian 87 190D -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Okay, that's good to know. guess the fluid was just way low for some reason. I'm cringing to know that I drove it so far that way. The odds are against the poor tranny to start with, what with the 267k mi. Brian On 6/25/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, per Kaleb's assurance, I'm adding tranny fluid pint by pint. That stupid fluid level has yet to climb above the bottom part where it's curled. Wonder why it's so very low?! Yes, I know, cause it just is. Better too low than too high! (Just like engine oil on diesels.) BTW, Brian, I noticed this weekend while checking _my_ tranny fluid that the part number on my 124's dipstick also starts with 126---same part for all 60x engines, maybe. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Zoltan Finks wrote: Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. The distance between the ADD and MAX line on the engine oil dipstick of OM60x engines is 2 liters (2.114 qt). That's from the 1988 TDM and covers cars from 85-thru '89. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about the tranny dipstick?? Luther On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:44:52 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Yes, I agree - I don't know when I'll have time though - crazy times. I just added another pint and now at least the thing reads on the stick. Seems to be about 1 1/2 quarts low - that is is the distance between the top line and the bottom line is one pint, and if it reads accordingly all the way down the stick. The distance between the ADD and MAX line on the engine oil dipstick of OM60x engines is 2 liters (2.114 qt). That's from the 1988 TDM and covers cars from 85-thru '89. Marshall -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You asked:What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) I had a similar problem with my 240D - one of the wires had abraided against the inside of the dash where the cluster pressed against the dash . I had to splice in a new piece of wire to repair the damaged piece. Of course, some of the other suggestions may work also --- Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.4/860 - Release Date: 6/21/2007 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Zoltan Finks wrote: ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Not familiar with W201 wiring, but my W116 blows that fuse when I romp hard on the throttle. Reason: a short in the transmission kickdown system, only drawing power when the switch under the throttle pedal clicks on. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had that fuse go on my 190D turned out I'd knocked the wires off the electromagnetic fan clutch. The problem only happened at or around operating temp. Look behind the fan by the oil dipstick tube and you should see to wires plugged onto little round whatsis. Mine were laying on and grounding to the waterpump. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:09:37 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now that's a solution I would be capable of carrying out. I'll check that. I do appreciate the other responses too, I'm just a wussy when it comes to tearing into cars. In fact I have finally been forced into replacing the starter on my 240D (yes the same one I asked about weeks ago - it did quit in me a couple times on my cross-country trip - one time on the ferry - but thankfully, a little tapping and praying got me on my way). Brian On 6/23/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had that fuse go on my 190D turned out I'd knocked the wires off the electromagnetic fan clutch. The problem only happened at or around operating temp. Look behind the fan by the oil dipstick tube and you should see to wires plugged onto little round whatsis. Mine were laying on and grounding to the waterpump. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:09:37 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] New car New questions Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. --R R A Bennell wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So do you have evidence to support the reverse situation? One would think a fellow with a normally aspirated MB diesel does not exhibit a need to compensate for other shortages in life?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. --R R A Bennell wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:16:34 -0500, you wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy I think there's a medical cure for that, I got an e-mail the other day. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hey, Dipsticks. My '87 190DT dipstick reads 126 270 00 83 and it sure hurt when tattooed! Dipstick tube # is :-201 270 04 84 EPC 84 190D dipstick:- 126 270 00 83 repl. by ` 140 270 03 83 repl. by 140 270 06 83 Dipstick tube:- 201 270 02 84 repl. by 201 270 04 84 Don't worry, be happy. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Brian I looked up your car in the EPC to get the part numbers. Too little or too much oil in a motor is never a good thing. I'd try to get the right dipstick soon. Oil dipstick part numbers: A 603 010 02 72 Replaced by A 602 010 02 72 A 602 010 02 72 Oil DipStick Brown Same dipstick up to the end of model year 1988 Hope his helps James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] New car New questions Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So, . . . How is it working out for you? Or do we want to know? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:16:34 -0500, you wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy I think there's a medical cure for that, I got an e-mail the other day. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks James. But I am talking about the tranny dipstick. It's disturbing to hear that I could in fact have the correct dipstick in there, as I have been running the thing quite low if that is the case. My road trip from So. CA to Seattle surely has not helped things. Again, my tranny dipstick does read 126 as the first digits of the number on the red cap. I was hoping that I had the dipstick from a 126 chassis in there or something. The thing shifts quite nicely though - no maladies. Wonder if I need to add fluid or not?!? Brian 87 190D On 6/22/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian I looked up your car in the EPC to get the part numbers. Too little or too much oil in a motor is never a good thing. I'd try to get the right dipstick soon. Oil dipstick part numbers: A 603 010 02 72 Replaced by A 602 010 02 72 A 602 010 02 72 Oil DipStick Brown Same dipstick up to the end of model year 1988 Hope his helps James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] New car New questions Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think you are on the right track there. --Big Rich R A Bennell wrote: So do you have evidence to support the reverse situation? One would think a fellow with a normally aspirated MB diesel does not exhibit a need to compensate for other shortages in life?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New car New questions I had to read the other post to put this into context. I thought maybe you were talking about Porsche or BMW owners, and I know they all have short dipsticks. --R R A Bennell wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is the correct dipstick. It can be low and still shift fine. Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Okay, thanks. Also, thanks to Randy for suggesting I find another 190D and ask to see their dipstick. (not chuckling along with you all). There will certainly be no trouble finding Mercedes diesels around here. Brian On 6/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the correct dipstick. It can be low and still shift fine. Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, now that I am happily home with the new-to-us 87 190D (and have my computer set up so I can email now) I naturally could use some input on some questions - the impatient may delete. Is the sunroof not supposed to open all the way on these smaller cars? It slides back but looks like it should open about 6 or 7 inches more. Is that all the farther it's supposed to open? The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low, yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to explain this away in lame fashion, saying that when the engine is cold, and engine is shut off, that that is when the level should read correctly (which it does). Fortunately, there was the operator's manual present in the glovebox, and I was able to prove him wrong in black and white. He insisted on holding that he was correct though. I added one pint to be conservative (before I realized that I may have the wrong dipstick. Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
My ACC has done that - it was the push button unit it's self. You take it out, take it apart, and re-solder the switch connections and clean the switches with Deoxit. I think there's a write up in the list archives. On 6/22/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New car New questions
Actually, there is more to it than that. It's not the switches you resolder, but the connections between the main board and the boards mounted on the sides. When these were manufactured, they relied on solder to provide both an electrical and physical connection between the main board on the bottom and two smaller boards on each side, mounted at right angles to the main board. The solder ages, flexes from temperature, humidity and physical shock, and the joints fail. Unless you use a magnifier you'll almost never see them - they are hairline cracks that occur and become intermittent connections, making diagnosis nearly impossible. If you reflow the joints about 90% of the ACC units will be as new. It does require a steady hand and someone with plenty of experience soldering PC boards. I also take the opportunity to replace any worn switch buttons (they're easy to remove with a pair of pliers) and put all new bulbs in, too. I have this all documented in photos and am planning on getting up on my Web site soon. Dan --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ACC has done that - it was the push button unit it's self. You take it out, take it apart, and re-solder the switch connections and clean the switches with Deoxit. I think there's a write up in the list archives. On 6/22/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, now: With the climate control switched to off (the zero button depressed) my fan started running on its own just this afternoon. Would run for a bit, then shut off for a second or two, then start running again. I took it for some neat feature of the ACC that adjusts for the cabin temperature getting too hot. But I suspect it could be a malfunction, because I have the thing turned off! What say all? ALSO: What could cause the fuse to repeatedly blow that controls the gauge cluster (fuel, oil press. and temp?) Brian 87 190D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
