Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's been sitting so long that even the patina has come loose.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:58 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:15:14 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> https://youarecurrent.com/2015/10/20/still-rolling-bentley-dealership-finds-niche-in-zionsville/
>
> There is something wrong with that article! It says,
>
> When Hermann died at age 62 in October 2002,
>
> That means Hermann was born in 1940.
>
> Greg, 53,
>
> That means Greg was born in 1949, when Hermann was 9.
>
> and brother, Mark, 50, took over running Bentley Zionsville
>
> That means Mark was born in 1952, when Hermann was 12.
>
> That allowed the mechanic to found Albers Rolls-Royce in 1963 as
> a service garage and later develop a solid luxury car business.
>
> That means Hermann founded Albers Rolls-Royce when he was 23.
>
>
> > The one thing that always fascinated me at the time was that whenever
> > he (re)installed a fastener, he made a paint mark on it to identify if
> > anyone tampered with the fastener. Sort of like how you use that red
> > glyptal stuff to “seal” the little surface mount trimmer pots on a
> > circuit board.
>
> I have seen that red glyptal stuff on trimmers.
>
> I also saw, when looking under my brand-new 1972 220D/8, yellow paint
> marks on bolts/nuts all over, particularly on the components of the
> driveshaft, like the bolts and nuts on the rubber donuts.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:15:14 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> https://youarecurrent.com/2015/10/20/still-rolling-bentley-dealership-finds-niche-in-zionsville/

There is something wrong with that article! It says,

When Hermann died at age 62 in October 2002,

That means Hermann was born in 1940.

Greg, 53,

That means Greg was born in 1949, when Hermann was 9.

and brother, Mark, 50, took over running Bentley Zionsville

That means Mark was born in 1952, when Hermann was 12.

That allowed the mechanic to found Albers Rolls-Royce in 1963 as
a service garage and later develop a solid luxury car business.

That means Hermann founded Albers Rolls-Royce when he was 23.


> The one thing that always fascinated me at the time was that whenever
> he (re)installed a fastener, he made a paint mark on it to identify if
> anyone tampered with the fastener. Sort of like how you use that red
> glyptal stuff to “seal” the little surface mount trimmer pots on a
> circuit board.

I have seen that red glyptal stuff on trimmers.

I also saw, when looking under my brand-new 1972 220D/8, yellow paint
marks on bolts/nuts all over, particularly on the components of the
driveshaft, like the bolts and nuts on the rubber donuts.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL, in a 1989 Tucker Sno-Cat.

The dash panels on the machine are all flat sheets attached to a welded steel 
frame. The heater vents are circular similar to a W123 but held together with a 
thin spring that doesn't stay clipped in place for crap. These things vibrate 
terribly in the best of times, the clips don't have a chance. The panels the 
ducts are in have gotten hard and all the screw holes have broken out.

The ducts are 2" and at this point just worn out. They're hard to get on and 
wont stay.

So I ordered an RV ducting kit off eBay, accidentally bought 3", whoops. Then I 
got a sheet of 1/8" acrylic and made a new panel. This was dumb, acrylic is 
much too brittle. Got the sheet cut to approximately the right shape, got a 
duct installed. The eBay has vents that clip together, way better than the 
Tucker ones, still not as good as a W123 though.

Anyway, made myself a new panel, cut a slit in the 3" duct to neck it down to 
2" and held it on with a clamp: https://photos.app.goo.gl/gFT5z3pejRbjfRJk7

It flows air wy better than it did before. If it ever snows I'll at least 
be able to defrost the windshield. I need to rig the other side with a similar, 
but better deal and remake the panel for this side. I'm thinking an HDPE sheet 
would work better and be less brittle. Found a place online to get them.

The machine is for sale if anybody wants a big toy: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KD93dGt6xMVH73qh9

We're going to start at $35,000 but would accept $30,000. Trying to sell off 2 
machines to buy 1 newer one. We don't really have enough operators for all the 
machines we have anyway...

-Curt


On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 02:43:29 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Where is your spirit of adventure?

Randy


On 15/02/2024 12:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
> "special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.
>
> I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those 
> is a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires 
> to accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are 
> made with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything 
> anymore...
> That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
> possibility to it.
>
> -Curt
>


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Where is your spirit of adventure?

Randy


On 15/02/2024 12:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
"special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.

I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those is 
a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires to 
accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are made 
with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything anymore...
That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
possibility to it.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
"special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.

I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those is 
a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires to 
accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are made 
with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything anymore...
That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
possibility to it.

-Curt



On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 12:20:24 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Not to mention the “ran when parked 18 years ago”, which, properly translated, 
means “Bring large amounts of cash to resolve any and all issues.”

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

No doubt, there would be other hurdles, but if you just wanted the look 
of the Rolls, you could likely solve the problems without rebuilding a 
Rolls.


I am sure I must have told the story about my mechanic son working on a 
vintage Rolls that essentially had no brakes. If I recall correctly it 
had some sort of hydraulic setup that ran off of the transmission. Parts 
were either unobtainable or so expensive that it made no sense. They 
installed a vacuum booster intended for a Chevy Corvette and that helped 
a bit. Ultimately, they swapped the left side brake shoes to the right 
side and vice versa, so that the leading shoe was opposite of what it 
had been, and that helped a lot. My son did not think the brakes were 
all that wonderful even then, but the owner was satisfied. He only drove 
it in parades or something like that so didn't care that they were not 
state of the art.


Randy

On 15/02/2024 11:28 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

True, but how do you address the hydraulic suspension? Or does this model have 
it?

-D


On Feb 15, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob


Body looks pretty good.

Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and carry on.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

True, but how do you address the hydraulic suspension? Or does this model have 
it?

-D

> On Feb 15, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/
>> 
>> In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a 
>> pink slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, 
>> this is a hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw 
>> money into.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
> Body looks pretty good.
> 
> Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and carry on.
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not to mention the “ran when parked 18 years ago”, which, properly translated, 
means “Bring large amounts of cash to resolve any and all issues.”

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get 
a pink slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money 
into, this is a hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, 
that you throw money into.


AZBob


Body looks pretty good.

Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and 
carry on.


Randy
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