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Im moving on, going to look at trucks in tulsa probably, found many other cheaper ones. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: I'd price around to see what a rear end shop would charge to do a complete rebuild on the rear end, and work them down that plus some for aggravation, and then if you need to you could just pickup a whole axel from a boneyard and swap it out yourself and come out ahead.. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Im moving on, going to look at trucks in tulsa probably, found many other cheaper ones. Good decision, happy truck hunting to you! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny
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Because the howl changed/went away with load. Those trucks book at around 30k for the 05 and around 26k for the 03 Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. I am not an expert on these trucks, I don't know enough to be a novice, but one thing you said struck me. Didn't you say it needed tires? How do you know the howl is not tire noise. I had a howl from my old Chevy 4X4 and it ended up being the tires. 23K for a truck with 101K miles? I don't know how much these trucks are, but that sounds like a lot of dough for that many miles. I guess a lot of it must have been highway miles to put 100,000 miles on it in two years. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Well I cant really go with a manual trans, because the wife cant drive it and refuses to learn. Something about a bad knee. The auto is easier anyway, but I like the command of a stick. The ones with the fuel pressure taking out the ip are the 98-02 I believe. The 03 and up went to the common rail injection etc, have WAY more power and are much more quiet. Levi Smith wrote: Personally I'd go with the 05'. But then again I guess I'd want more info on the rear end... I know I've heard the newer models (like since 98) you have to be sure not to lose fuel pressure or they tend to take out the IP... I know what you mean about enjoying them... My dad's got a 97 or 98 Cummins Dually with a flat bed/side racks with dump. That thing just hauls. You throw a trailer that weighs a couple tons on there and a tractor that weighs another 3-5 ton or so on there and it barely cares As compared to his 05' 1500 with the 4.7l engine in it that won't hold 70mph in 5th gear going up a hill by itself. It's not a dog, 5th is a pretty high gear. But you throw JUST that trailer on the back and you can practically forget doing much in 5th unless there's absolutely no incline and no need to accelerate. That Cummins torque is addicting... Now if only I could get one in my Benz or something the size of a Dakota... (: Hey Mike, you ought to throw one of THOSE in your M37! Oh yeah my uncle (also named Mike) has like a 95 2500 Cummins chassis that he put on one of those like late 60's sweptline Dodge bodies on. Looks pretty cool. Apparently his has been upgraded though as his has a lot more top end pull to it. Sorry I'm not more help there Kaleb, but the mention of those Cummins really gets the AR AR (grunt grunt as Tim Allen would do) flowing! (: Levi On 7/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Personally I'd go with the 05'. But then again I guess I'd want more info on the rear end... I know I've heard the newer models (like since 98) you have to be sure not to lose fuel pressure or they tend to take out the IP... So far as I know, only the 24-valve non-common-rail engines have this issue. 98.5-02? The 12-valvers and the '03+ (?) merely stop running if the fuel delivery system plugs up or dies. Fix filter and/or lift pump and you're on the road again. Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and It will get better mileage, and likely will last longer too. But 6X tire price is definitely worse than 4X. Periodically. I wouldn't want a dualie unless I was towing/hauling heavy a lot, but I just hate training wheels. Lotsa guys strip off the fender skirts by accident, since the truck is so much wider in back than in front. probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, They don't howl, something is wrong. Also note that the dualie is likely equipped with the 4.10:1 (?) rear end, and so will not get the good mileage of the 3.73:1 (again, ?), but will be welcome if you exclusively tow heavy. For nothing heavier than a car on a trailer I'd go with the taller rear end, you'll get better mileage. In the common-rail models, you can also get a 1-ton single rear wheel model if that suits your needs better, but for a car on a trailer I'd think a 3/4 ton would be adequate, and would offer _slightly_ better unloaded comfort. Highway miles tend to be gentle miles, the Cummins is as robust as our beloved OM617, if not more so. 100 kmi is just broken in, I wouldn't worry about it if the condition of the rest of the truck looked good. Thrash will out, so to speak. -- Jim
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That 1 ton had a 3.73 or whatever rear end. Forgot to check the other truck. I would prefer a 3/4 ton for daily use, as the dually is pretty big, but would be nice if I did ever start hauling more than 1 car at once. For now I just haul one at a time so Im sure 3/4 is the way to go. Jim Cathey wrote: Personally I'd go with the 05'. But then again I guess I'd want more info on the rear end... I know I've heard the newer models (like since 98) you have to be sure not to lose fuel pressure or they tend to take out the IP... So far as I know, only the 24-valve non-common-rail engines have this issue. 98.5-02? The 12-valvers and the '03+ (?) merely stop running if the fuel delivery system plugs up or dies. Fix filter and/or lift pump and you're on the road again. Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and It will get better mileage, and likely will last longer too. But 6X tire price is definitely worse than 4X. Periodically. I wouldn't want a dualie unless I was towing/hauling heavy a lot, but I just hate training wheels. Lotsa guys strip off the fender skirts by accident, since the truck is so much wider in back than in front. probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, They don't howl, something is wrong. Also note that the dualie is likely equipped with the 4.10:1 (?) rear end, and so will not get the good mileage of the 3.73:1 (again, ?), but will be welcome if you exclusively tow heavy. For nothing heavier than a car on a trailer I'd go with the taller rear end, you'll get better mileage. In the common-rail models, you can also get a 1-ton single rear wheel model if that suits your needs better, but for a car on a trailer I'd think a 3/4 ton would be adequate, and would offer _slightly_ better unloaded comfort. Highway miles tend to be gentle miles, the Cummins is as robust as our beloved OM617, if not more so. 100 kmi is just broken in, I wouldn't worry about it if the condition of the rest of the truck looked good. Thrash will out, so to speak. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That 1 ton had a 3.73 or whatever rear end. Forgot to check the other truck. I would prefer a 3/4 ton for daily use, as the dually is pretty big, but would be nice if I did ever start hauling more than 1 car at once. For now I just haul one at a time so Im sure 3/4 is the way to go. 2 ton Ford, 1997, 160kmi, auto trans, 7.3 powerstroke, $2k. No bed, but you could put rails on it and piggyback a car. Want it or not? Mitch.
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I just dont get attatched to the frods, sorry. Seems cheap though, where is it located? I might be up for a beater truck Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That 1 ton had a 3.73 or whatever rear end. Forgot to check the other truck. I would prefer a 3/4 ton for daily use, as the dually is pretty big, but would be nice if I did ever start hauling more than 1 car at once. For now I just haul one at a time so Im sure 3/4 is the way to go. 2 ton Ford, 1997, 160kmi, auto trans, 7.3 powerstroke, $2k. No bed, but you could put rails on it and piggyback a car. Want it or not? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I just dont get attatched to the frods, sorry. Seems cheap though, where is it located? I might be up for a beater truck Michigan. It's well maintained, was in service as an ambulance at a local hospital a month ago. There's a big hole in the back where the ambulance body used to be and a small hole in each fender where the lights were. 14k GVWR, it's an Econoline so the engine bay is cramped, but the cargo area to length ratio is better than with an F450.
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rumor has it that Levi wrote: Hey Mike, you ought to throw one of THOSE in your M37! We already discussed this. *smile* A BT4 is a 4-cyl, where the BT6 is the 6-cyl that's in the big Dodge pickups. (but I don't think they call it a BT6 anymore, do they? -- Philip, still dreaming of a BT4 in a M37 or a SIII LandRover.
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Kaleb, Will the dealership cover the rear end or will they offer a warranty? I've heard of the 6 speed Cummins getting 22-24 mpg, but of course that's under 65 mph. I just towed a 6k pound camper back from Florida with the Powerstroke. At 65 - 70 mph I averaged 14 mpg. Felt like it wasn't even behind me. I like my Ford, and on the trip to and from Fla, I saw more Ford diesels by far than any other brand. It was rare that a 3/4 or 1 ton truck wasn't diesel. One of my mechanics at work has a 2004 2500 Duramax with the Allison tranny. He tows a 10k pound 5th wheel and swears by the Allison, he bought it used with the remaining factory warranty to 100k miles, it had 33k on it and he paid around 30k. (Ouch) James Jetton 1987 300 SDL 144k 1996 Ford F-250 Powerstroke 176k 1968 Silver Streak Atlas Deluxe 28' Kaleb said: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 21 01:36:54 2006 Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.66]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3jwk-p9-Rm for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:36:54 + Received: from dialup-4.224.180.217.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.180.217]) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1G3jwb-0001Em-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:36:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:32:23 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Priming the Oil System X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:36:55 - Never hurts to pre-oil, though -- we do it all the time. We had a spare oil pump drive gear from a 617 (broken crank) we ground the teeth off of to pre-oil my brother's when we put it together a few years back. Makes the oil pressure pop right up while cranking, and lets you know there aren't any galley plugs missing or cam towers exchanged right to left (on the V8s, this causes a no oil pressure problem -- the feed bore is uncovered). Belts and braces, perhaps, but better than cranking on dry bearings. Synthetic oil or the thicker assembly lube will do the same thing, but why take a chance? My German friend always pre-oiled through the oil pressure sender fitting as he had a separate oiling pump. Standard practice where he was taught. Peter
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A BT4 is a 4-cyl, where the BT6 is the 6-cyl that's in the big Dodge pickups. (but I don't think they call it a BT6 anymore, do they? 6BTA. 6-cylinder B engine, Turbocharged, aftercooled.) -- Jim
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Philip, still dreaming of a BT4 in a M37 or a SIII LandRover. I spotted a 1988 Bronco on Craigslist here in PDX with a Cummins 4BT engine, believe it was listed at $6K. That would be a fun off-road machine to have. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny
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My '06 Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel automatic is a fine truck. The '03 6speed was too although the auto does make it easier to drive (for those with bad knees). The tranny seems to find whatever gear is needed, and it just keeps on pullin'! The 04 was the first year of the 325HP 610LB/FT torque engine although the '03 HO engine did very well for me also with 305HP and 550 LB/FT of torque getting 20MPG average. The new one won't be getting those kinds of numbers yet since it only has 1K miles on it now. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny
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I'd price around to see what a rear end shop would charge to do a complete rebuild on the rear end, and work them down that plus some for aggravation, and then if you need to you could just pickup a whole axel from a boneyard and swap it out yourself and come out ahead.. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck.
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Kaleb wrote: The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. I am not an expert on these trucks, I don't know enough to be a novice, but one thing you said struck me. Didn't you say it needed tires? How do you know the howl is not tire noise. I had a howl from my old Chevy 4X4 and it ended up being the tires. 23K for a truck with 101K miles? I don't know how much these trucks are, but that sounds like a lot of dough for that many miles. I guess a lot of it must have been highway miles to put 100,000 miles on it in two years. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
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Personally I'd go with the 05'. But then again I guess I'd want more info on the rear end... I know I've heard the newer models (like since 98) you have to be sure not to lose fuel pressure or they tend to take out the IP... I know what you mean about enjoying them... My dad's got a 97 or 98 Cummins Dually with a flat bed/side racks with dump. That thing just hauls. You throw a trailer that weighs a couple tons on there and a tractor that weighs another 3-5 ton or so on there and it barely cares As compared to his 05' 1500 with the 4.7l engine in it that won't hold 70mph in 5th gear going up a hill by itself. It's not a dog, 5th is a pretty high gear. But you throw JUST that trailer on the back and you can practically forget doing much in 5th unless there's absolutely no incline and no need to accelerate. That Cummins torque is addicting... Now if only I could get one in my Benz or something the size of a Dakota... (: Hey Mike, you ought to throw one of THOSE in your M37! Oh yeah my uncle (also named Mike) has like a 95 2500 Cummins chassis that he put on one of those like late 60's sweptline Dodge bodies on. Looks pretty cool. Apparently his has been upgraded though as his has a lot more top end pull to it. Sorry I'm not more help there Kaleb, but the mention of those Cummins really gets the AR AR (grunt grunt as Tim Allen would do) flowing! (: Levi On 7/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: Didn't you say it needed tires? How do you know the howl is not tire noise. I had a howl from my old Chevy 4X4 and it ended up being the tires. That's the annoying thing. It can go either way. I had a noise on an E150 once that I swore was tire noise. It sounded exactly like tire whine, and didn't change with throttle position, only with speed. It turned out to be the bearings in the rear end. If I were the one shopping for a truck, I'd use the noise to bargain the price down. Then I'd change the tires, and if the noise stayed, I'd start shopping for a junkyard rear axle. They go bad so rarely on most vehicles that the odds of finding a good one seem pretty good.
