Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, extreme 
cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 6 shirts, size 
38; several appear to have never been worn.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective 
thermals for arctic regions.

I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry

Curt Raymond wrote:

The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I 
need to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less 
(like snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging 
around. The heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a lot of 
sitting and waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good ice 
shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little insulation.


Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me 
silk is good but its spendy.


-Curt



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To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament 
bulbs (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold 
winter which required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 
90 miles or so and I like the shop hot; about 78F.

Gerry
P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you 
mentioned; North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia 
brand I've been using was not warm enough the last time I went up north 
to North Carolina in the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to 
an Assyrian girl and there may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to 
figure out where the Assyrians live in the Middle East.)


WILTON wrote:

 'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a 
 chest in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may be 
 an A-3 bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need to 
 lighten the load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused bunny 
 boots and mukluks to Danish friend the day before I left Greenland, 
 though.  'Had some of each of those for many years in Nebraska, 
 Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.


 Wilton
   - Original Message - 
   From: G Mann

   To: WILTON
   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


   All in good jest Wilton.. ;))


   For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on 
 top of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I 
 had carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into 
 the desert at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization that 
 I would NEVER need it again in this lifetime.



   Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow 
 boots, long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 yrs... 
 then off to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment..



   Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;))) 
 Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost 
 per month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H.




   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



   What is Snow

   From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off 
 my
   driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we 
 neighbors do.


   We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on 
 for about an

   hour one day in January


   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and 
 plowed snow
 many times, I can never think of of time I could have 
 considered the

 conditions as luxurious.

 Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

 Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Cotton is the worst for trying to stay warm in the winter.  Go to El 
Mercado de Wal and get some polypropylene tights and undershirts, then 
layer up over those, 2 pair if you need it then some wool shirts and pants.


Keep your feet and head warm and the rest of you will be warm.

--R


On 9/21/14 10:15 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, 
extreme cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 
6 shirts, size 38; several appear to have never been worn.


Wilton

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mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more 
effective thermals for arctic regions.

I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Also in the attic stash:  1 pair heavy canvas mukluks with white felt 
inserts - never worn; 1 arctic parka hood (NOT the parka - a separate 
hood) - never worn; 1 pair leather and fur arctic mittens - never worn; USAF 
A-3 canvas bag; one US Army heavy canvas duffel bag - (brother's 1950 
vintage).


Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, 
extreme cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 6 
shirts, size 38; several appear to have never been worn.


Wilton

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To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective 
thermals for arctic regions.

I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry

Curt Raymond wrote:

The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I 
need to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less 
(like snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging 
around. The heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a lot of 
sitting and waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good ice 
shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little insulation.


Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me 
silk is good but its spendy.


-Curt



 From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament 
bulbs (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold 
winter which required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 
90 miles or so and I like the shop hot; about 78F.

Gerry
P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you 
mentioned; North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia 
brand I've been using was not warm enough the last time I went up north 
to North Carolina in the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to 
an Assyrian girl and there may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to 
figure out where the Assyrians live in the Middle East.)


WILTON wrote:

 'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a 
 chest in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may 
 be an A-3 bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need 
 to lighten the load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused 
 bunny boots and mukluks to Danish friend the day before I left 
 Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those for many years in 
 Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.


 Wilton
   - Original Message - 
   From: G Mann

   To: WILTON
   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


   All in good jest Wilton.. ;))


   For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on 
 top of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I 
 had carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into 
 the desert at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization 
 that I would NEVER need it again in this lifetime.



   Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow 
 boots, long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 
 yrs... then off to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment..



   Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;))) 
 Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost 
 per month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H.




   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



   What is Snow

   From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine 
 off my
   driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we 
 neighbors do.


   We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on 
 for about

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Time to put that stuff on ebay. 
‎
Rick 
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  Original Message  
From: WILTON via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

Also in the attic stash:  1 pair heavy canvas mukluks with white felt 
inserts - never worn; 1 arctic parka hood (NOT the parka - a separate 
hood) - never worn; 1 pair leather and fur arctic mittens - never worn; USAF 
A-3 canvas bag; one US Army heavy canvas duffel bag - (brother's 1950 
vintage).

Wilton

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From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


 'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, 
 extreme cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 6 
 shirts, size 38; several appear to have never been worn.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - 
 From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective 
thermals for arctic regions.
 I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
 Thanks,
 Gerry

 Curt Raymond wrote:

 The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
 material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I 
 need to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less 
 (like snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging 
 around. The heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a lot of 
 sitting and waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good ice 
 shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little insulation.

 Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me 
 silk is good but its spendy.

 -Curt


 
  From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


 For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament 
 bulbs (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold 
 winter which required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 
 90 miles or so and I like the shop hot; about 78F.
 Gerry
 P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you 
 mentioned; North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia 
 brand I've been using was not warm enough the last time I went up north 
 to North Carolina in the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to 
 an Assyrian girl and there may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to 
 figure out where the Assyrians live in the Middle East.)

 WILTON wrote:

  'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a 
  chest in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may 
  be an A-3 bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need 
  to lighten the load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused 
  bunny boots and mukluks to Danish friend the day before I left 
  Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those for many years in 
  Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.
 
  Wilton
    - Original Message - 
    From: G Mann
    To: WILTON
    Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
    Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 
    All in good jest Wilton.. ;))
 
 
    For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on 
  top of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I 
  had carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into 
  the desert at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization 
  that I would NEVER need it again in this lifetime.
 
 
    Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow 
  boots, long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 
  yrs... then off to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment..
 
 
    Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;))) 
  Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost 
  per month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H.
 
 
 
    On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
  'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?
 
  Wilt
 
  - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Cotton is warn, it just doesn't stay warm well because you sweat. I like cotton 
for sleeping...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You looking for a good home for the mittens? I've been looking for a pair.. 

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Re. brand on the thermal underwear:  Notation on one of the tags says, 
Southern Silk Mills, NC.


Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, 
extreme cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 6 
shirts, size 38; several appear to have never been worn.


Wilton

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From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective 
thermals for arctic regions.

I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry

Curt Raymond wrote:

The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I 
need to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less 
(like snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging 
around. The heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a lot of 
sitting and waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good ice 
shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little insulation.


Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me 
silk is good but its spendy.


-Curt



 From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament 
bulbs (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold 
winter which required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 
90 miles or so and I like the shop hot; about 78F.

Gerry
P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you 
mentioned; North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia 
brand I've been using was not warm enough the last time I went up north 
to North Carolina in the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to 
an Assyrian girl and there may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to 
figure out where the Assyrians live in the Middle East.)


WILTON wrote:

 'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a 
 chest in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may 
 be an A-3 bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need 
 to lighten the load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused 
 bunny boots and mukluks to Danish friend the day before I left 
 Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those for many years in 
 Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.


 Wilton
   - Original Message - 
   From: G Mann

   To: WILTON
   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


   All in good jest Wilton.. ;))


   For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on 
 top of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I 
 had carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into 
 the desert at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization 
 that I would NEVER need it again in this lifetime.



   Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow 
 boots, long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 
 yrs... then off to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment..



   Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;))) 
 Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost 
 per month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H.




   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



   What is Snow

   From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine 
 off my
   driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we 
 neighbors do.


   We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on 
 for about an

   hour one day in January


   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Wool!  Why didn't I think of that?  It kept us warm back in the '30s and '40s. 
Itchy wool outer clothing or longjohns might be tolerable over polypropylene.
The mechanics of the longjohns trapdoor and the pull down thermals might be 
tricky, though.

Keeping the head cool definitely works.  The A/C in the 300D doesn't keep the 
whole car cool on the hot Florida summer days, so I pulled the flexible duct 
that goes to the right dash outlet out through the glove compartment hole, and 
using file folder rubber bands, hung it on the rearview mirror so it blows in 
the face.  The whole body seems to stay cool. 
Don't know how one would keep the head warmer than with an insulated hood, 
though.  Maybe a wool scarf.
Gerry  

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:33:40 -0400
Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Cotton is the worst for trying to stay warm in the winter.  Go to El 
 Mercado de Wal and get some polypropylene tights and undershirts, then 
 layer up over those, 2 pair if you need it then some wool shirts and pants.
 
 Keep your feet and head warm and the rest of you will be warm.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 9/21/14 10:15 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
  'Checked the stash last night - these are no brand, US gov issue, 
  extreme cold weather, 100% cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 
  6 shirts, size 38; several appear to have never been worn.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message - From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 
  i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
  lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
  something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more 
  effective thermals for arctic regions.
  I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
  Thanks,
  Gerry 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-21 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
That seems strange; a silk mill making cotton clothing.  Does it seem like it 
might have silk in it?
Gerry

WILTON wrote:

 Re. brand on the thermal underwear:  Notation on one of the tags says, 
 Southern Silk Mills, NC.
 
 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow many 
times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the conditions as 
luxurious.

Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

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 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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 . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its a matter of relativity, I don't think any of us would consider a wood stove 
a luxury but compared to a fireplace it sure is.
Compared to sitting on a cold metal pan seat this padded seat cover will be 
pure luxury.

Plowing is way better than snowblowing, way less snow in your face. My plow is 
really only good for up to a foot of powder snow or maybe 4 of wet stuff 
though.

Actually now that I think of it maybe today would be a good day to finally 
fluid fill the tires. I've got enough power to plow more snow, I usually run 
out of traction which is in this case directly related to weight.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow many 
times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the conditions as 
luxurious.

Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

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 . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Curt,

What fluid would you use to fill your tractor tires?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have approached snow removal from many directions over the years.

Wheel Horse 8HP tractor with dozer blade

Walk behind snow blower

Tractor (16HP) mounted snowblower

In nearly every instance, the biggest issue was getting enough weight to the 
back wheels for traction.  The Wheel Horse didn't have weights or chains, but 
that was in Indiana with snow depths that weren't outrageous (mostly.)  Since 
it was pushing rather than blowing snow, it worked pretty well until you got a 
big pile.  At that point it was pretty much useless.  The walk behind 
snowblower in Wisconsin was nice, as I had very flat ground to work with and a 
cab that directed engine heat to me, making it relatively comfortable, but not 
luxurious. The cab kept the blowing snow off the operator as well, which was 
nice.  Lastly, the 16HP tractor with the snowblower was probably the least 
desirable, mainly because I had a fairly steep incline to deal with.  Even with 
wheel weights and chains it struggled to move/throw snow, and this was in 
Indiana with snow depths that weren't what I would consider extreme in most 
cases.  No protection from the blowing snow, too, meaning that you often end
 ed up being covered with it and somewhat soggy by the time you were done.

Can't say I miss any of this, however.  I do miss the change of seasons, 
though.  I could use some turning trees and a little nip in the air right now.  
That would be nice.

Dan


 
On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 Its a matter of relativity, I don't think any of us would consider a wood 
 stove a luxury but compared to a fireplace it sure is.
 Compared to sitting on a cold metal pan seat this padded seat cover will 
 be pure luxury.
 
 Plowing is way better than snowblowing, way less snow in your face. My plow 
 is really only good for up to a foot of powder snow or maybe 4 of wet stuff 
 though.
 
 Actually now that I think of it maybe today would be a good day to finally 
 fluid fill the tires. I've got enough power to plow more snow, I usually run 
 out of traction which is in this case directly related to weight.
 
 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Fall weather seems to be upon us here in the Low Country, didn't get warmer
than high seventies yesterday, upper sixties at night.  Our front yard oak
has started dropping leaves, but none are turning yet.  Beautiful day to
work on the White Whale in the garage (installed lifters, cam shaft, chain
tensioner, and removed radiator in anticipation of replacing condenser).

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd use windshield washer fluid. Its relatively cheap, easy to get and of 
course it won't freeze.
For a big tractor its calcium in water, much heavier but more difficult since 
it has to be mixed up. For that I'd have somebody do it but the tire guy won't 
come out for two little garden tractor tires like he will for a farm tractor.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

Curt,

What fluid would you use to fill your tractor tires?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Enough experience with myself, too; 'best method I found, though, was to 
write check to farmer/contractor in MI UP.  'Best way to know if there'd 
been another blizzard during the night was to hear the tractor getting 
closer as he plowed the driveways nearby.  Occasionally nice to snuggle 
deeper under the covers for a while longer before getting up and flipping on 
the van heaters breaker.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



I have approached snow removal from many directions over the years.

Wheel Horse 8HP tractor with dozer blade

Walk behind snow blower

Tractor (16HP) mounted snowblower

In nearly every instance, the biggest issue was getting enough weight to 
the back wheels for traction.  The Wheel Horse didn't have weights or 
chains, but that was in Indiana with snow depths that weren't outrageous 
(mostly.)  Since it was pushing rather than blowing snow, it worked pretty 
well until you got a big pile.  At that point it was pretty much useless. 
The walk behind snowblower in Wisconsin was nice, as I had very flat 
ground to work with and a cab that directed engine heat to me, making it 
relatively comfortable, but not luxurious. The cab kept the blowing snow 
off the operator as well, which was nice.  Lastly, the 16HP tractor with 
the snowblower was probably the least desirable, mainly because I had a 
fairly steep incline to deal with.  Even with wheel weights and chains it 
struggled to move/throw snow, and this was in Indiana with snow depths 
that weren't what I would consider extreme in most cases.  No protection 
from the blowing snow, too, meaning that you often ended up being covered 
with it and somewhat soggy by the time you were done.


Can't say I miss any of this, however.  I do miss the change of seasons, 
though.  I could use some turning trees and a little nip in the air right 
now.  That would be nice.


Dan



On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Its a matter of relativity, I don't think any of us would consider a wood 
stove a luxury but compared to a fireplace it sure is.
Compared to sitting on a cold metal pan seat this padded seat cover 
will be pure luxury.


Plowing is way better than snowblowing, way less snow in your face. My 
plow is really only good for up to a foot of powder snow or maybe 4 of 
wet stuff though.


Actually now that I think of it maybe today would be a good day to 
finally fluid fill the tires. I've got enough power to plow more snow, I 
usually run out of traction which is in this case directly related to 
weight.


-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly.

That's what I did in later years in Wisconsin.  More so because I was traveling 
a lot and the wife was home with the boys at the time and working full time as 
well.  Our Landscaping guy plowed driveways in the winter, so we paid him to 
keep the driveway clear.

Much easier than having to roust out in the early AM after a snow and dig out 
before going to work...

Dan


On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:08 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Enough experience with myself, too; 'best method I found, though, was to 
 write check to farmer/contractor in MI UP.  'Best way to know if there'd 
 been another blizzard during the night was to hear the tractor getting closer 
 as he plowed the driveways nearby.  Occasionally nice to snuggle deeper under 
 the covers for a while longer before getting up and flipping on the van 
 heaters breaker.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 
 I have approached snow removal from many directions over the years.
 
 Wheel Horse 8HP tractor with dozer blade
 
 Walk behind snow blower
 
 Tractor (16HP) mounted snowblower
 
 In nearly every instance, the biggest issue was getting enough weight to the 
 back wheels for traction.  The Wheel Horse didn't have weights or chains, 
 but that was in Indiana with snow depths that weren't outrageous (mostly.)  
 Since it was pushing rather than blowing snow, it worked pretty well until 
 you got a big pile.  At that point it was pretty much useless. The walk 
 behind snowblower in Wisconsin was nice, as I had very flat ground to work 
 with and a cab that directed engine heat to me, making it relatively 
 comfortable, but not luxurious. The cab kept the blowing snow off the 
 operator as well, which was nice.  Lastly, the 16HP tractor with the 
 snowblower was probably the least desirable, mainly because I had a fairly 
 steep incline to deal with.  Even with wheel weights and chains it struggled 
 to move/throw snow, and this was in Indiana with snow depths that weren't 
 what I would consider extreme in most cases.  No protection from the blowing 
 snow, too, meaning that you often e
 nded up being covered with it and somewhat soggy by the time you were done.
 
 Can't say I miss any of this, however.  I do miss the change of seasons, 
 though.  I could use some turning trees and a little nip in the air right 
 now.  That would be nice.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Its a matter of relativity, I don't think any of us would consider a wood 
 stove a luxury but compared to a fireplace it sure is.
 Compared to sitting on a cold metal pan seat this padded seat cover 
 will be pure luxury.
 
 Plowing is way better than snowblowing, way less snow in your face. My plow 
 is really only good for up to a foot of powder snow or maybe 4 of wet 
 stuff though.
 
 Actually now that I think of it maybe today would be a good day to finally 
 fluid fill the tires. I've got enough power to plow more snow, I usually 
 run out of traction which is in this case directly related to weight.
 
 -Curt
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A garden tractor and plow without wheel weights and chains is a waste of time. 
Mine will plow an astonishing amount of snow and if I lift the plow as I hit 
the pile the tractor will stand right up and make big snowbanks. Those banks 
are very useful for loading snowmobiles. Even though the trailer tilts its a 
PITA and its much easier to load if theres a bank.

I've used a tractor mounted blower before and the only problem I had with it 
was that it wasn't very maneuverable which is the big advantage with a walk 
behind.

This all reminds me I need to pull the clutch apart on our walk behind and 
figure out why its losing power. I suspect its got a rubber drive wheel thats 
worn or needs adjusting. It still works, just needs some help and pushing the 
snowblower is no fun at all.

-Curt



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To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

I have approached snow removal from many directions over the years.

Wheel Horse 8HP tractor with dozer blade

Walk behind snow blower

Tractor (16HP) mounted snowblower

In nearly every instance, the biggest issue was getting enough weight to the 
back wheels for traction.  The Wheel Horse didn't have weights or chains, but 
that was in Indiana with snow depths that weren't outrageous (mostly.)  Since 
it was pushing rather than blowing snow, it worked pretty well until you got a 
big pile.  At that point it was pretty much useless.  The walk behind 
snowblower in Wisconsin was nice, as I had very flat ground to work with and a 
cab that directed engine heat to me, making it relatively comfortable, but not 
luxurious. The cab kept the blowing snow off the operator as well, which was 
nice.  Lastly, the 16HP tractor with the snowblower was probably the least 
desirable, mainly because I had a fairly steep incline to deal with.  Even with 
wheel weights and chains it struggled to move/throw snow, and this was in 
Indiana with snow depths that weren't what I would consider extreme in most 
cases.  No protection from the blowing snow,
 too, meaning that you often ended up being covered with it and somewhat soggy 
by the time you were done.

Can't say I miss any of this, however.  I do miss the change of seasons, 
though.  I could use some turning trees and a little nip in the air right now.  
That would be nice.

Dan






On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 Its a matter of relativity, I don't think any of us would consider a wood 
 stove a luxury but compared to a fireplace it sure is.
 Compared to sitting on a cold metal pan seat this padded seat cover will 
 be pure luxury.
 
 Plowing is way better than snowblowing, way less snow in your face. My plow 
 is really only good for up to a foot of powder snow or maybe 4 of wet stuff 
 though.
 
 Actually now that I think of it maybe today would be a good day to finally 
 fluid fill the tires. I've got enough power to plow more snow, I usually run 
 out of traction which is in this case directly related to weight.
 
 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
For that I'd have somebody do it but the tire guy won't come out for 
two little garden tractor tires like he will for a farm tractor.


Take wheels in?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Maybe. I should look into the cost.
In my small experience with it this is usually done from a truck. Maybe I can 
catch them on a day they're doing one nearby.

Alternately I could go back to plan A with washer fluid, I've already got a 
valve to put fluid in while taking air out, just need a way to adapt that valve 
to something I can put fluid into. The truck pumps the fluid in, my plan was to 
let the air out of the tire with the tractor on the ground, connect the valve, 
start adding fluid and jack the tractor up. Lather, rinse, repeat and I should 
be able to get 3-4 gallons in each wheel. It doesn't add a ton of weight but it 
puts it right where its needed. Next step would be a big weight box off the 
back.

-Curt



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 




 For that I'd have somebody do it but the tire guy won't come out for 
 two little garden tractor tires like he will for a farm tractor.

Take wheels in?

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

In my small experience with it this is usually done from a truck.


Every time we did it (few enough) we drove the tractor down
to the co-op.  The wheel will be heaver post-op!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
What is Snow

From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors do.

We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for about an
hour one day in January


On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow
 many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
 conditions as luxurious.

 Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

 Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
 
  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeah, I don't want to hear it in August when its ten million degrees at your 
place. I'll take snow any day over having the tires on the car melt...

-Curt



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

What is Snow

From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors do.

We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for about an
hour one day in January


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow
 many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
 conditions as luxurious.

 Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

 Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
 
  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Why washer fluid? Won't the alcohol attack the rubber tires? Use the
antifreeze that you drain out of the MB when changing it.

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 Alternately I could go back to plan A with washer fluid, I've already got
 a valve to put fluid in while taking air out, just need a way to adapt that
 valve to something I can put fluid into.
 -Curt





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The tires have tubes but I see your point.
Apparently its not a problem, this isn't an idea I came up with, loads of 
people do it. I should weigh a gallon of used anti-freeze (which I suspect I 
could get plenty of for free) and see if its more than cheap washer fluid. 
Washer fluid being primarily alcohol would be lighter than water.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 


Why washer fluid? Won't the alcohol attack the rubber tires? Use the antifreeze 
that you drain out of the MB when changing it.




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Alternately I could go back to plan A with washer fluid, I've already got a 
valve to put fluid in while taking air out, just need a way to adapt that 
valve to something I can put fluid into. 
-Curt






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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some of the farms around us that could be a looong ride... Considering my Super 
M maxes out at 16mph I'm glad they'll come to us. We're only 5 miles out of 
town but the tractor isn't much of a road vehicle.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

 In my small experience with it this is usually done from a truck.

Every time we did it (few enough) we drove the tractor down
to the co-op.  The wheel will be heaver post-op!




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?

Wilt

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



What is Snow

From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors do.

We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for about 
an

hour one day in January


On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow
many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
conditions as luxurious.

Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a chest in my 
bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may be an A-3 bag in the 
attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need to lighten the load on the 
house foundation!  I did give my unused bunny boots and mukluks to Danish 
friend the day before I left Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those for 
many years in Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.

Wilton
  - Original Message - 
  From: G Mann 
  To: WILTON 
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


  All in good jest Wilton.. ;))


  For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on top of my 
moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I had carefully packed 
[along with all the other winter gear] out into the desert at about Lourdsburg, 
NM, having come to the realization that I would NEVER need it again in this 
lifetime.


  Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow boots, long 
thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 yrs... then off to 
Goodwill.. yet another happy moment.. 


  Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;)))  Payments 
my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost per month to heat 
my midwest home in winter.. H. 



  On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale



  What is Snow

  From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
  driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors do.

  We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for about 
an
  hour one day in January


  On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed snow
many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
conditions as luxurious.

Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today

Sent from my iPad

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 . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

My snow plan here was to use the regular loader bucket (6 ft) on my 45 hp (I
must add Diesel) utility tractor.  But I have found it a lot easier to just
wait for it to melt (1 week, tops) here in NC.  But when I lived in NJ as a
Kid and was assigned in Ohio (WPAFB), the white stuff had to be shifted
becase it lasted until spring.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Washer fluid is available and fairly cheap.  My tractor came with glycol in
the back tires; no problems yet after 5 years except for a dead tire
pressure gauge.  I stop each tire with the valve up to add or check air.
Calcuim works but it's corrosive so you want an inner tube if you uise that
stuff.  There is a beet juice concoction called Rim Guard which is supposed
to be the best (most dense, and corrosive, and environmentally friendly).  I
haven't used it so that's hearsay.  Finally, a heavy box blade on the back
dies wonders for traction plus you can back-blade stuff that winds up behind
you (assuming a hydraulic top link).

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
 Dillon via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:03 AM
 To: Mercedes
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 Curt,
 
 What fluid would you use to fill your tractor tires?
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and material. 
I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I need to move 
around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less (like snowmobiling) 
and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging around. The heavyweight are 
good for ice fishing where you do a lot of sitting and waiting unless I happen 
to meet somebody with a good ice shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little 
insulation.

Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me silk is 
good but its spendy.

-Curt



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To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament bulbs 
(which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold winter which 
required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 90 miles or so and 
I like the shop hot; about 78F.
Gerry
P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you mentioned; 
North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia brand I've been using 
was not warm enough the last time I went up north to North Carolina in the 
winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to an Assyrian girl and there may 
be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to figure out where the Assyrians live 
in the Middle East.)

WILTON wrote:

 'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a chest in 
 my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may be an A-3 bag in 
 the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need to lighten the load on 
 the house foundation!  I did give my unused bunny boots and mukluks to Danish 
 friend the day before I left Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those 
 for many years in Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear 
 them.
 
 Wilton
   - Original Message - 
   From: G Mann 
   To: WILTON 
   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 
   All in good jest Wilton.. ;))
 
 
   For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on top of 
 my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I had carefully 
 packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into the desert at about 
 Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization that I would NEVER need it 
 again in this lifetime.
 
 
   Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow boots, long 
 thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 yrs... then off to 
 Goodwill.. yet another happy moment.. 
 
 
   Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;)))  
 Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost per 
 month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H. 
 
 
 
   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?
 
 Wilt
 
 - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 
 
   What is Snow
 
   From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
   driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors do.
 
   We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for 
 about an
   hour one day in January
 
 
   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed 
 snow
 many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
 conditions as luxurious.
 
 Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
 
  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Should have said the beet juice was NOT coorsive.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:29 PM
 To: 'Meade Dillon'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 Washer fluid is available and fairly cheap.  My tractor came with glycol
in the
 back tires; no problems yet after 5 years except for a dead tire pressure
 gauge.  I stop each tire with the valve up to add or check air.
 Calcuim works but it's corrosive so you want an inner tube if you uise
that
 stuff.  There is a beet juice concoction called Rim Guard which is
supposed to
 be the best (most dense, and corrosive, and environmentally friendly).  I
 haven't used it so that's hearsay.  Finally, a heavy box blade on the back
dies
 wonders for traction plus you can back-blade stuff that winds up behind
you
 (assuming a hydraulic top link).
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
  Meade Dillon via Mercedes
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:03 AM
  To: Mercedes
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
  Curt,
 
  What fluid would you use to fill your tractor tires?
 
  Max Dillon,
  Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wonder if thats the same stuff they use for rust remover. I'm given to 
understand it gets quite ripe after a couple days.


I've been using evapo-rust which I think is molasses based and has no 
particular smell. I did let some evaporate down by accident, it turned into a 
thick good like molasses encapsulating the wrenches I was cleaning. No harm 
though, just add some water to re-hydrate.

-Curt



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To: 'Scott Ritchey' ritche...@nc.rr.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 

Should have said the beet juice was NOT coorsive.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:29 PM
 To: 'Meade Dillon'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
 Washer fluid is available and fairly cheap.  My tractor came with glycol
in the
 back tires; no problems yet after 5 years except for a dead tire pressure
 gauge.  I stop each tire with the valve up to add or check air.
 Calcuim works but it's corrosive so you want an inner tube if you uise
that
 stuff.  There is a beet juice concoction called Rim Guard which is
supposed to
 be the best (most dense, and corrosive, and environmentally friendly).  I
 haven't used it so that's hearsay.  Finally, a heavy box blade on the back
dies
 wonders for traction plus you can back-blade stuff that winds up behind
you
 (assuming a hydraulic top link).
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
  Meade Dillon via Mercedes
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:03 AM
  To: Mercedes
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
 
  Curt,
 
  What fluid would you use to fill your tractor tires?
 
  Max Dillon,
  Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here lately 
the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has something to do 
with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective thermals for arctic 
regions.
I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry

Curt Raymond wrote:

 The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
 material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and I need 
 to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving less (like 
 snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just hanging around. The 
 heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a lot of sitting and 
 waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good ice shack that has a 
 woodstove and maybe a little insulation.
 
 Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me silk 
 is good but its spendy.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
  From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
  
 
 For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament bulbs 
 (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold winter which 
 required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; about 90 miles or so 
 and I like the shop hot; about 78F.
 Gerry
 P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you mentioned; 
 North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia brand I've been 
 using was not warm enough the last time I went up north to North Carolina in 
 the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to an Assyrian girl and there 
 may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able to figure out where the Assyrians 
 live in the Middle East.)
 
 WILTON wrote:
 
  'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a chest 
  in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may be an A-3 
  bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need to lighten the 
  load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused bunny boots and mukluks 
  to Danish friend the day before I left Greenland, though.  'Had some of 
  each of those for many years in Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I 
  never did wear them.
  
  Wilton
- Original Message - 
From: G Mann 
To: WILTON 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
  
  
All in good jest Wilton.. ;))
  
  
For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on top 
  of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I had 
  carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into the desert 
  at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization that I would NEVER 
  need it again in this lifetime.
  
  
Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow boots, 
  long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 yrs... then off 
  to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment.. 
  
  
Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;)))  
  Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it cost per 
  month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H. 
  
  
  
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  
  'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?
  
  Wilt
  
  - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
  
  
  
What is Snow
  
From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine off my
driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we neighbors 
  do.
  
We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on for 
  about an
hour one day in January
  
  
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
  
  I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and plowed 
  snow
  many times, I can never think of of time I could have considered the
  conditions as luxurious.
  
  Dan who is watching liquid sunshine fall from the sky today
  
  Sent from my iPad
  
   On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   . I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


To finish up my Cub Cadet wiring adventure, it turns out that when the 
previous owner ran a line to the batt terminal of the regulator all he 
actually had to do was to move the grey wire from the hot side of the 
starter to one side of the ammeter. I actually spliced the grey wire to a 
little of the previous owner's very long wire since the grey wire had 
quite a large ring terminal on it. Viola it works, that easy. One downside 
is that it doesn't measure when cranking since that comes off the switched 
side of the starter switch but everything else is measured including the

headlights.

With the ammeter sorted I took a look at the bracket which at one point 
must have been chromed but is now just rust. I let it soak for a few hours 
in a bath of evapo-rust, then cleaned it, dried it and hit it with some 
primer and yellow paint.


I let it dry overnight and then sprayed the backside. When that was mostly 
dry I baked it in my toaster oven but had the heat too high and bubbled 
the paint. That subsided into an interesting crackle look which goes with 
the mostly rotten paint on the rest of the tractor.


When I turn on the headlights the charge rate dips for a second before it 
goes back to normal. I was pleased to see that the starter/generator 
charges even at very low engine speed. My other Cub Cadet seems to want 
more engine speed before it charges, I guess I should order a 
starter/generator rebuild kit for that one as well.


After all that fun I took a few minutes to add slime to the left front 
tire which was low and put some grease in all the zerks.


Most importantly I was able to start the tractor cold without starting 
fluid for the first time in about a year. I was so happy with it I went 
out and bought a padded seat cover. The machine had one when I first 
bought it but it got torn off last spring so I'd spent a year sitting with 
a dirty old towel on the metal seat. I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.


-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale

2014-09-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:16:35 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I'm ready to plow snow in luxury.

Such a deal!


Craig

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