Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Surely you jest. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
I don't jest and I agree with Harry about Fox News.. Fair and balanced. Chuck Phoenix On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:33 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Surely you jest. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
harry watkins wrote: Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Doesn't that Sean Hannity douche bag work for Fox? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what I have gathered clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In the summer the school was open with things for the neighborhood kids to do - each classroom had a highschool volunteer who again - was local to the neigborhood - who ran games and kept order. There was a baseball diamond behind the school and we could always find enough kids to start a game. Also the school library was open so the (local) kids could check out books. IIRC the whole operation was run by volunteers who I recall as being high school kids - who were usually big brothers and sisters of someone we were playing with. At the end of the day we walked or rode bikes home. After dinner we often went out to play again - and would stay out until 10 or so (this was when we were in low-mid teens. Younger kids were around too but usually had an older sibling there also. Then came busing the neighborhood concept left. The schools were still there but the kids and sometime teachers were from other parts of town. BTW, this was in Hampton Va - not an urban area - mostly suburban but the housing was close to shopping - Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, that's scary stuff. Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urban vehicles are too big for their needs. Remember Mom needs that monster truck to drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away but if she keeps the tires properly inflated she will reverse climate change. Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Donald Snook wrote: Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Most of the BioD produced in the US is shipped to the EU. Seems that we cheapskates are unwilling to pay the 5.50 or so a gallon it would be at retail in the US. This is the wholesale price, FOB Plant as of 2 days ago: Soy Biodiesel Additive B99.9 - 4.2800 To this is added shipping, $.50-.60 per gallon of taxes and the distributor's margin, and the retailer's margin. At 11:52 AM 8/1/2008, you wrote: It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what I have gathered clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
-- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday -- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
As my father used to say, die jugend von heute, meaning how easy kids have it today... Of course, he said it with a very discernible wink:... On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:34 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday -- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of uhs and ummms from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That is real presidential material! At 09:51 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Loren Faeth wrote: I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of uhs and ummms from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That is real presidential material! Nukular, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Not pushing the 3k mile oil change and people following the factory recommended oil change interval might be pretty helpful as well. I think most cars suggest over 5k nowadays. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? I'm not sure of others, but hydroplaning resistance is one of them. At least according to the autocross school I went to... They said 40psi for the track, but don't run that on the street. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. jfk, he ain't At 10:27 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Loren Faeth wrote: Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. jfk, he ain't Right. JFK was born the son of a mobster. BHOJr was born the son of a bureaucrat, and had to move to Chicago to join the mob. I have no idea if JFK was Joe Kennedy's sock puppet, but Dick Daley is counting on BHOJr to be his. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Wear will be heavily on the middle. PSI depends more on the tire than saying 40psi is to high for on the road. I run mine at 45psi because they are mushrooms. Next time I will get a smaller sidewall. Hydroplaning, I would think there would be less chance of it as the contact patch would be smaller making less of a surface to hydroplane on. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Thanks - I worry about hydroplaning around here (D.C.), especially just after it rains for the first time in a week or more. The moisture combines with a residue of gasoline and oil built up on the road surface to create a very slippery condition... On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wear will be heavily on the middle. PSI depends more on the tire than saying 40psi is to high for on the road. I run mine at 45psi because they are mushrooms. Next time I will get a smaller sidewall. Hydroplaning, I would think there would be less chance of it as the contact patch would be smaller making less of a surface to hydroplane on. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, that's scary stuff. Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urban vehicles are too big for their needs. Remember Mom needs that monster truck to drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away but if she keeps the tires properly inflated she will reverse climate change. Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Donald Snook wrote: Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Well so what? So what if it's true, and we could save that amount of oil by inflating our tires. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Unimog? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
U1300L Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Unimog? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest of our country! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
It is Supply and Demand 101. They control the supply and demand more and more money of us. What could be more American than that? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest of our country! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. One of the Imperium Oil attorneys was dumped and ended up at SWMBA's firm. Sad tales of woe and subterfuge in the oil industry and how all our diesel is going to EU for big bucks, since our puny $$ is worth nothing over there and more profit is made shipping crude here, refining it, then putting it on a ship for there. Still cheaper than bothering to sell it here. clay On 31 Jul 2008, at 19:19, OK Don wrote: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
