Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The problem is not the main battery, it's the logic board backup battery that 
causes the PRAM or BIOS to lose it's data when it goes flat.

They can also fail, like the on in my TIBook, so I have to re-set the clock 
every time I turn it on.  NLA, sadly, I'll have to splice in a replacement 
someday, probably after I retire in seven or eight years


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's been so long that I don't remember the last time I had to defrag a
drive. The last three finger salute was on Ubuntu that locked up. None of
the HP laptops have failed due to a dead battery - they run fine on AC when
the battery is removed, which is how I run the ancient one in the hangar
(remember Vista? - still going).

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> You never do the defrag dance?  The three finger salute?
>
> I've had plennty winders boxes, including laptops that brick if the
> battery is dead.   Each has it problems, but in my experience, I spend
> almost zero time maintaining the macbooks, versus lots of hours to maintain
> the winders boxes.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> But you don't have to do the magic dance and re-boot four times every 4-6
>> months to keep it healthy - it just keeps on trucking. OK - this PC is a
>> year younger than Andrews (2009) - we'll see what happens in the next
>> couple of years.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
As long as it's plugged in you are fine.

Leave it without power until the MB battery dies, and they can become 
completely inert.  Had it happen too many times.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

You never do the defrag dance?  The three finger salute?

I've had plennty winders boxes, including laptops that brick if the 
battery is dead.   Each has it problems, but in my experience, I spend 
almost zero time maintaining the macbooks, versus lots of hours to 
maintain the winders boxes.


OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

But you don't have to do the magic dance and re-boot four times every 4-6
months to keep it healthy - it just keeps on trucking. OK - this PC is a
year younger than Andrews (2009) - we'll see what happens in the next
couple of years.





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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
But you don't have to do the magic dance and re-boot four times every 4-6
months to keep it healthy - it just keeps on trucking. OK - this PC is a
year younger than Andrews (2009) - we'll see what happens in the next
couple of years.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Your PC will do the exact same thing when the BIOS battery pukes and you
> unplug the machine.  In the case of the Apple, it will still operate on the
> mains.  Yours may or may not, depending on the BIOS type and manufacturer
> of the motherboard.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > WOW - and you guys complain about Windows machines!!! This is crazy.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM
> >> battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues.
> >> Will also result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not
> notice
> >> if you have a live wireless connection.
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> > for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes - it operates on AC power even though the battery is at zero and
doesn't charge.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Your PC will do the exact same thing when the BIOS battery pukes and you
> unplug the machine.  In the case of the Apple, it will still operate on the
> mains.  Yours may or may not, depending on the BIOS type and manufacturer
> of the motherboard.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > WOW - and you guys complain about Windows machines!!! This is crazy.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM
> >> battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues.
> >> Will also result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not
> notice
> >> if you have a live wireless connection.
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> >
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Your PC will do the exact same thing when the BIOS battery pukes and you unplug 
the machine.  In the case of the Apple, it will still operate on the mains.  
Yours may or may not, depending on the BIOS type and manufacturer of the 
motherboard.

-D

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> WOW - and you guys complain about Windows machines!!! This is crazy.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM
>> battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues.
>> Will also result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not notice
>> if you have a live wireless connection.
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
WOW - and you guys complain about Windows machines!!! This is crazy.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM
> battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues.
> Will also result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not notice
> if you have a live wireless connection.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM battery 
can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues.  Will also 
result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not notice if you have a 
live wireless connection.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
IT might be the battery brain has forgotten things if it were stored over long 
and now is confused about cycles and charge level.  I have no idea how to reset 
that.

clay 

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> On Apr 2, 2018, at 11:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging?  I
> suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the
> battery.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have a removable battery (very easy).  Will try tonight.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> First of all, zapping the PRAM (really known as resetting the NVRAM) won’t
> mess anything up.  It’s actually a good maintenance activity to do every
> 4-6 months.
>
> The controller for the battery charging is part of the battery itself.
> Zapping the PRAM resets all of the hardware settings back to their default
> values.
>
> In reality, you want to reset the SMC, or System Management Controller.
> That interacts with the battery management controller.
>
> How to reset the SMC on Mac notebooks
> First, determine whether the battery is removable. Most older Mac
> notebooks have removable batteries. Mac notebooks that have nonremovable
> batteries include MacBook Pro (Early 2009 and later), all models of MacBook
> Air, MacBook (Late 2009), and MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2015 and
> later). Learn more about Mac notebook batteries <
> https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204054>.
> If the battery is nonremovable:
> Choose Apple menu > Shut Down.
> After your Mac shuts down, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side of
> the built-in keyboard, then press the power button at the same time. Hold
> these keys and the power button for 10 seconds.
> If you have a MacBook Pro with Touch ID, the Touch ID button is also the
> power button.
> Release all keys.
> Press the power button again to turn on your Mac.
> If the battery is removable:
> Shut down your Mac.
> Remove the battery. If you need help removing the battery, contact an
> Apple Authorized Service Provider  or Apple
> Retail Store .
> Press and hold the power button for 5 seconds.
> Reinstall the battery.
> Press the power button again to turn on your Mac.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
First of all, zapping the PRAM (really known as resetting the NVRAM) won’t mess 
anything up.  It’s actually a good maintenance activity to do every 4-6 months.

The controller for the battery charging is part of the battery itself.  Zapping 
the PRAM resets all of the hardware settings back to their default values.

In reality, you want to reset the SMC, or System Management Controller. That 
interacts with the battery management controller.

How to reset the SMC on Mac notebooks
First, determine whether the battery is removable. Most older Mac notebooks 
have removable batteries. Mac notebooks that have nonremovable batteries 
include MacBook Pro (Early 2009 and later), all models of MacBook Air, MacBook 
(Late 2009), and MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2015 and later). Learn more 
about Mac notebook batteries .
If the battery is nonremovable:
Choose Apple menu > Shut Down.
After your Mac shuts down, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side of the 
built-in keyboard, then press the power button at the same time. Hold these 
keys and the power button for 10 seconds.
If you have a MacBook Pro with Touch ID, the Touch ID button is also the power 
button.
Release all keys.
Press the power button again to turn on your Mac.
If the battery is removable:
Shut down your Mac.
Remove the battery. If you need help removing the battery, contact an Apple 
Authorized Service Provider  or Apple Retail Store 
.
Press and hold the power button for 5 seconds.
Reinstall the battery.
Press the power button again to turn on your Mac.
















































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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What is the connection to battery charging?

*"Resetting the parameter random-access memory in a **Mac*
*
can resolve problems when the computer is performing slowly, crashing
frequently or showing inconsistencies with the display or speaker volume.
Resetting or zapping the PRAM can save a trip to the Apple Genius Bar. The
process to zap your PRAM works on all Mac desktops and laptops and can be
completed during startup."*

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> With the machine off, hold down the “P”, “R”, “option” and “Command “
> (Apple) keys together.  Turn on the machine with these keys depressed and
> hold them down until you hear the system “bong” sound.  Continue holding
> them down and do so until the machine reboots four times.
>
> After the fourth time, let off and let the system come up like it normally
> does.  It’s quite possible the “bong” sound will be louder after the second
> or third reboot - this is normal behavior.
>
> -MacDann
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Green or unlit.  How does one does "zap the pram"?
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Jim Cathey 
> wrote:
> >
> >> What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging?  I
> >> suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or
> the
> >> battery.
> >>
> >> -- Jim
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
With the machine off, hold down the “P”, “R”, “option” and “Command “ (Apple) 
keys together.  Turn on the machine with these keys depressed and hold them 
down until you hear the system “bong” sound.  Continue holding them down and do 
so until the machine reboots four times.

After the fourth time, let off and let the system come up like it normally 
does.  It’s quite possible the “bong” sound will be louder after the second or 
third reboot - this is normal behavior.

-MacDann


> On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Green or unlit.  How does one does "zap the pram"?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging?  I
>> suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the
>> battery.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Green or unlit.  How does one does "zap the pram"?

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging?  I
> suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the
> battery.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging?  I
suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the
battery.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The battery was new - do you mean the  charging cord?

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 6:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It's an Apple feature - telling you to buy a new one. 10 years is too old .
> . .
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Back in 2001 I'd have said "zap the pram, rebuild the desktop." Now it's
> > just "zap the pram"
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> >   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Recently happened to #1 Dotter's Macbook
> > pro.  It cleared on its own,
> > without buying a new battery.
> >
> > Might try calling support at Macsales.com and see what they think.  The
> > battery charging circuit/logic overrides any user input.  Jut like a
> > 2000+ car.
> >
> > Try: Complete discharge to shut off, leave it dead at least 8 hours
> > before charging,  Reset PRAM etc.
> > Or search on the internet for solutions.
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > > April 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM
> > > The battery in my 2008 (?) MacBook Pro 14" laptop refuses to take a
> > > charge. I purchased a new genuine and identical Apple replacement
> battery
> > > and had the same problem, Although the ebay seller refunded my money
> I'm
> > > puzzled as to why this happens. The indicator light at the end of
> > > the charging cord changes from yellow to green even though the battery
> is
> > > at 15%, and won't charge it further. I have this cord - can it go bad?
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Charger-For-Mac-Book-
> > Pro-13-Retina-A1502-A1435-A1465-MD565LL-A-60W/
> 162719344271?_trkparms=aid%
> > 3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%
> > 3D46cede7b870a4427a827431cbef85f89%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D6%
> > 26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D263420876961%26itm%3D162719344271&_trksid=
> > p2047675.c15.m1851
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's an Apple feature - telling you to buy a new one. 10 years is too old .
. .

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Back in 2001 I'd have said "zap the pram, rebuild the desktop." Now it's
> just "zap the pram"
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Recently happened to #1 Dotter's Macbook
> pro.  It cleared on its own,
> without buying a new battery.
>
> Might try calling support at Macsales.com and see what they think.  The
> battery charging circuit/logic overrides any user input.  Jut like a
> 2000+ car.
>
> Try: Complete discharge to shut off, leave it dead at least 8 hours
> before charging,  Reset PRAM etc.
> Or search on the internet for solutions.
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > April 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM
> > The battery in my 2008 (?) MacBook Pro 14" laptop refuses to take a
> > charge. I purchased a new genuine and identical Apple replacement battery
> > and had the same problem, Although the ebay seller refunded my money I'm
> > puzzled as to why this happens. The indicator light at the end of
> > the charging cord changes from yellow to green even though the battery is
> > at 15%, and won't charge it further. I have this cord - can it go bad?
> >
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Charger-For-Mac-Book-
> Pro-13-Retina-A1502-A1435-A1465-MD565LL-A-60W/162719344271?_trkparms=aid%
> 3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%
> 3D46cede7b870a4427a827431cbef85f89%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D6%
> 26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D263420876961%26itm%3D162719344271&_trksid=
> p2047675.c15.m1851
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Back in 2001 I'd have said "zap the pram, rebuild the desktop." Now it's just 
"zap the pram"
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Recently happened to #1 Dotter's 
Macbook pro.  It cleared on its own, 
without buying a new battery.

Might try calling support at Macsales.com and see what they think.  The 
battery charging circuit/logic overrides any user input.  Jut like a 
2000+ car.

Try: Complete discharge to shut off, leave it dead at least 8 hours 
before charging,  Reset PRAM etc.
Or search on the internet for solutions.
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> April 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM
> The battery in my 2008 (?) MacBook Pro 14" laptop refuses to take a
> charge. I purchased a new genuine and identical Apple replacement battery
> and had the same problem, Although the ebay seller refunded my money I'm
> puzzled as to why this happens. The indicator light at the end of
> the charging cord changes from yellow to green even though the battery is
> at 15%, and won't charge it further. I have this cord - can it go bad?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Charger-For-Mac-Book-Pro-13-Retina-A1502-A1435-A1465-MD565LL-A-60W/162719344271?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D46cede7b870a4427a827431cbef85f89%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D263420876961%26itm%3D162719344271&_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Recently happened to #1 Dotter's Macbook pro.  It cleared on its own, 
without buying a new battery.


Might try calling support at Macsales.com and see what they think.  The 
battery charging circuit/logic overrides any user input.  Jut like a 
2000+ car.


Try: Complete discharge to shut off, leave it dead at least 8 hours 
before charging,  Reset PRAM etc.

Or search on the internet for solutions.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
April 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM
The battery in my 2008 (?) MacBook Pro 14" laptop refuses to take a
charge. I purchased a new genuine and identical Apple replacement battery
and had the same problem, Although the ebay seller refunded my money I'm
puzzled as to why this happens. The indicator light at the end of
the charging cord changes from yellow to green even though the battery is
at 15%, and won't charge it further. I have this cord - can it go bad?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Charger-For-Mac-Book-Pro-13-Retina-A1502-A1435-A1465-MD565LL-A-60W/162719344271?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D46cede7b870a4427a827431cbef85f89%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D263420876961%26itm%3D162719344271&_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851


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