Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-09 Thread LarryT
Sheesh!  That's *exactly* the kind of comment that makes me committed to 
voting to him if he is ever in a position to run a national race --

He's Da Man!   Nothing wrong with stating your position - except for that 
MSM problem.   I am encouraged by the fact that cable news continues to chip 
away at the MSMs dominance.  I would think the upcoming change to digital 
reception would enhance that chipping -

Dr Keyes needs a shot with a national audience - course the MSM will not let 
that happen -

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From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday


 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can only assume he's thinking of a different Alan Keyes than you 
 I are famiiar with - an excellent conservative who would be a great
 candidate.  It always surprises me that he can generate so little
 support.  Wish I could vote for Keyes instead of McCain in the fall
 - not that I;ll vote for McC - haven't decided what I'll do.

 I think that the reason he does not get support is that he is not
 appealing to the mainstream media, who like it or not pick the
 candidates as much if not moreso than the voters do.

 You have to play the media's game in campaigns -- Alan Keyes will not
 do that.  For example, he would not congratulate Barak Obama on his
 victory in the race for the senate seat in Illinois because it would
 be congratulations toward the triumph of that which I believe
 ultimately stands for ... a culture evil enough to destroy the very
 soul and heart of my country?  I cannot do this. And I will not make a
 false gesture.  (That from Wikipedia).

 Something like that just fans the fires in the todays's media, who
 seem obsessed with the notion that everyone must accomodate everyone
 else and apologize for any remotely provocative statement.


 Allan
 -- 
 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread Donald Snook
Curt wrote:

Four, there are four candidates in the GOP race.

Actually, there are more than that.  Several candidates, Alan Keyes) are only 
on the ballot in a few states.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
That guy is pure evil.

On Feb 8, 2008 9:54 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Curt wrote:

 Four, there are four candidates in the GOP race.

 Actually, there are more than that.  Several candidates, Alan Keyes) are
 only on the ballot in a few states.


 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
Dr of what?

On Feb 8, 2008 11:12 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
  That guy is pure evil.

 Dr Keyes?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread LarryT
Hi Mitch -
I can only assume he's thinking of a different Alan Keyes than you  I are 
famiiar with - an excellent conservative who would be a great candidate.  It 
always surprises me that he can generate so little support.  Wish I could 
vote for Keyes instead of McCain in the fall - not that I;ll vote for McC - 
haven't decided what I'll do.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday




 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 That guy is pure evil.

 Dr Keyes?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread Allan Streib
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can only assume he's thinking of a different Alan Keyes than you 
 I are famiiar with - an excellent conservative who would be a great
 candidate.  It always surprises me that he can generate so little
 support.  Wish I could vote for Keyes instead of McCain in the fall
 - not that I;ll vote for McC - haven't decided what I'll do.

I think that the reason he does not get support is that he is not
appealing to the mainstream media, who like it or not pick the
candidates as much if not moreso than the voters do.

You have to play the media's game in campaigns -- Alan Keyes will not
do that.  For example, he would not congratulate Barak Obama on his
victory in the race for the senate seat in Illinois because it would
be congratulations toward the triumph of that which I believe
ultimately stands for ... a culture evil enough to destroy the very
soul and heart of my country?  I cannot do this. And I will not make a
false gesture.  (That from Wikipedia).

Something like that just fans the fires in the todays's media, who
seem obsessed with the notion that everyone must accomodate everyone
else and apologize for any remotely provocative statement.


Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's the Alan Keyes who IIRC ran for public offic in MD and got trounced
because he is so totally unappealing to mainstream voters.  So when people
generalize about Harvard liberals remind them that Alan Keyes is an
alumnus.
Speaking of which, Harvard's new President Drew Gilpin Faust is a
self-described archive nut who has written some amazing books about the
Civil War that rely heavily on contemporary documents.  One of her books
concludes, based on archival research, that Southern WOMEN cost the Rebels
the war.  She was interviewed in yesterday's Wash. Post [excerpt follows]:

Moving on to the Civil War itself, Faust found herself asking questions
about the Confederate home front. Three out of four white men of military
age went off to battle,' she says, which left white women -- untrained and
unprepared culturally for their new role -- to manage slaves and try to keep
up agricultural productivity. Going into serious archive-rat mode, she
culled evidence from these women's letters and other writings and turned it
into 'Mothers of Invention,' her best-known book.

Published in 1996, 'Mothers' vividly evokes the difficulties Southern women
had coping with war and social upheaval. Beyond that, it suggests that
overburdened and eventually disillusioned women played a larger role in the
Confederacy's failure to sustain itself than Civil War historians have
recognized.

Some years earlier, Faust had made this suggestion more bluntly in an
academic paper. 'It may well have been because of its women,' she wrote,
that the South lost the Civil War.' 
Great, provocative stuff.  For the entire article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/06/AR2008020604592.html
On Feb 8, 2008 3:03 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I can only assume he's thinking of a different Alan Keyes than you 
  I are famiiar with - an excellent conservative who would be a great
  candidate.  It always surprises me that he can generate so little
  support.  Wish I could vote for Keyes instead of McCain in the fall
  - not that I;ll vote for McC - haven't decided what I'll do.

 I think that the reason he does not get support is that he is not
 appealing to the mainstream media, who like it or not pick the
 candidates as much if not moreso than the voters do.

 You have to play the media's game in campaigns -- Alan Keyes will not
 do that.  For example, he would not congratulate Barak Obama on his
 victory in the race for the senate seat in Illinois because it would
 be congratulations toward the triumph of that which I believe
 ultimately stands for ... a culture evil enough to destroy the very
 soul and heart of my country?  I cannot do this. And I will not make a
 false gesture.  (That from Wikipedia).

 Something like that just fans the fires in the todays's media, who
 seem obsessed with the notion that everyone must accomodate everyone
 else and apologize for any remotely provocative statement.


 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dr of what?

PhD, Government Affairs, Harvard.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread Mitch Haley


andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
 That guy is pure evil.

Dr Keyes?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-08 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That guy is pure evil.

Alan Keyes?  Hardly...

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond

Four, there are four candidates in the GOP race.


-Curt

Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:17:09 -0500
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As usual, my prediction was somewhat rash - there are still three
 candidates
in the GOP mix, and McCain could always say something unexpected (and
 stupid
or offensive) that would undo his momentum.  I could still be proven
correct, however, if Romney elects to pull out today for the sake of
 party
unity.

On Feb 5, 2008 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Fiscal conservative? No...

 Did anybody else see his answer when asked about going to war? He
 said
 he'd have to consult his lawyers.
 I thought Ron Paul was going to leap out of his skin. Consult lawyers
 indeed...

 -Curt

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Went and voted yesterday

2008-02-06 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Here in Arizona, there were 24 (that's TWENTY-FOUR) candidates on the  
Republican Ballot   Here in the West, all you need to do is fill  
out a form and viola, you're on the ballot..  NO filing fee!

Chuck

On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


 Four, there are four candidates in the GOP race.


 -Curt

 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:17:09 -0500
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 As usual, my prediction was somewhat rash - there are still three
  candidates
 in the GOP mix, and McCain could always say something unexpected (and
  stupid
 or offensive) that would undo his momentum.  I could still be proven
 correct, however, if Romney elects to pull out today for the sake of
  party
 unity.

 On Feb 5, 2008 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Fiscal conservative? No...

 Did anybody else see his answer when asked about going to war? He
  said
 he'd have to consult his lawyers.
 I thought Ron Paul was going to leap out of his skin. Consult lawyers
 indeed...

 -Curt


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