Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Hi, 1990 Suburban 6.2 na 3.73 gears 31x10.50x15 tires 4x4 253k 15mpg city or towing 3000 lb. boat 17-19 mpg highway empty. Original injectors. Pump at 100k. Ed in Chicago Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 87 K30 crew cab dually that I just got running looks like it's getting in the neighborhood of 17 mpg or so. TH400, no overdrive, 4x4, dually, with what feels like 4.10 gears. Sad thing is that's about the mileage of the 05 dodge crew cab dually 4x4, with a cummins, six speed manual, and 3.73s. Granted the cummins has almost twice the torque of the 6.2. The 6.2 was quite a fuel efficient engine for what it was. On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:45:22AM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Not bad at all. Better than my F150 which is averaging about 13.5 m/usg. Also better than my old 86 Suburban that averaged about 12 m /usg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of EDWARD DENNIS Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas Hi, 1990 Suburban 6.2 na 3.73 gears 31x10.50x15 tires 4x4 253k 15mpg city or towing 3000 lb. boat 17-19 mpg highway empty. Original injectors. Pump at 100k. Ed in Chicago Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 87 K30 crew cab dually that I just got running looks like it's getting in the neighborhood of 17 mpg or so. TH400, no overdrive, 4x4, dually, with what feels like 4.10 gears. Sad thing is that's about the mileage of the 05 dodge crew cab dually 4x4, with a cummins, six speed manual, and 3.73s. Granted the cummins has almost twice the torque of the 6.2. The 6.2 was quite a fuel efficient engine for what it was. On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:45:22AM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
HI, 700r4 overdrive towing at 60 plus mph. not over 70 much. Clean air filter a must and turbo mufflers on dual 2 pipes. I stay 100 feet back from the right Box trucks. Ed in Chicago R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad at all. Better than my F150 which is averaging about 13.5 m/usg. Also better than my old 86 Suburban that averaged about 12 m /usg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of EDWARD DENNIS Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas Hi, 1990 Suburban 6.2 na 3.73 gears 31x10.50x15 tires 4x4 253k 15mpg city or towing 3000 lb. boat 17-19 mpg highway empty. Original injectors. Pump at 100k. Ed in Chicago Kevin wrote: My 87 K30 crew cab dually that I just got running looks like it's getting in the neighborhood of 17 mpg or so. TH400, no overdrive, 4x4, dually, with what feels like 4.10 gears. Sad thing is that's about the mileage of the 05 dodge crew cab dually 4x4, with a cummins, six speed manual, and 3.73s. Granted the cummins has almost twice the torque of the 6.2. The 6.2 was quite a fuel efficient engine for what it was. On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:45:22AM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas Put a real fuel filter/water separator on it. You can buy the Roosa Master filter pair from a tractor salvage yard. Most John Deere Diesels from 4020 on have them. Most of the problems of the GM diesel stem from water in the fuel/plugged filter. The factory put on an itty bitty filter, not much more than the MB see-thru prefilter, that passes ALL water through to the nozzles, where it ruins them. Side benefits of the Master filters: They are see thru; you can buy replacements lotsa places, including every JD dealer in the country. If you are stranded, you have about a 50/50 chance of the nearest farm having spares; they filter out finer particles than the MB OEM filters. At 11:29 AM 11/14/2007, you wrote: I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
My 87 K30 crew cab dually that I just got running looks like it's getting in the neighborhood of 17 mpg or so. TH400, no overdrive, 4x4, dually, with what feels like 4.10 gears. Sad thing is that's about the mileage of the 05 dodge crew cab dually 4x4, with a cummins, six speed manual, and 3.73s. Granted the cummins has almost twice the torque of the 6.2. The 6.2 was quite a fuel efficient engine for what it was. On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:45:22AM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
The last 2wd one I had got 18-22 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas What sort of fuel mileage can one expect from such a beast? I have often been tempted but have not yet bought one. I wonder if it would be significantly better than a gas engine in a similar truck? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas Put a real fuel filter/water separator on it. You can buy the Roosa Master filter pair from a tractor salvage yard. Most John Deere Diesels from 4020 on have them. Most of the problems of the GM diesel stem from water in the fuel/plugged filter. The factory put on an itty bitty filter, not much more than the MB see-thru prefilter, that passes ALL water through to the nozzles, where it ruins them. Side benefits of the Master filters: They are see thru; you can buy replacements lotsa places, including every JD dealer in the country. If you are stranded, you have about a 50/50 chance of the nearest farm having spares; they filter out finer particles than the MB OEM filters. At 11:29 AM 11/14/2007, you wrote: I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Check out gm-diesel.com. I have had several and never had a problem with one. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
And drank more fuel in accordance. The 6.2 made just shy of 150hp IIRC which as far as I'm concerned is plenty unless I'm working with really heavy loads, I'm not in a hurry. I'd like to transplant one into an S-truck. My '88 S15 had the little 2.8l v6 which made IIRC around 100hp and drove somewhat like a 240D (although it'd chirp the tires in 1st). A bit more power would be nice and I imagine the fuel economy would be good in a light chassis like that. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:19:14 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Phillip wrote: So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? The 6.5 engine in the later models (starting in 1992 IIRC) was a better engine, produced more power and a turbocharged version was available. Donald H. Snook - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
Put a real fuel filter/water separator on it. You can buy the Roosa Master filter pair from a tractor salvage yard. Most John Deere Diesels from 4020 on have them. Most of the problems of the GM diesel stem from water in the fuel/plugged filter. The factory put on an itty bitty filter, not much more than the MB see-thru prefilter, that passes ALL water through to the nozzles, where it ruins them. Side benefits of the Master filters: They are see thru; you can buy replacements lotsa places, including every JD dealer in the country. If you are stranded, you have about a 50/50 chance of the nearest farm having spares; they filter out finer particles than the MB OEM filters. At 11:29 AM 11/14/2007, you wrote: I'm eyeing a mid '80s Suburban. I own a gasoline-powered one, but it's wearing out and I'd rather have a diesel. But I've never owned a GM diesel. So what thing do I need to look at or ask about? Are there there any wicked or expensive common failure modes? Other advise? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
It seems than at Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:24:22 -0600, Loren wrote: Put a real fuel filter/water separator on it. You can buy the Roosa Master filter pair from a tractor salvage yard. Sweet! That's the sort of info I looking for. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - 6.2 diesel suburban gotchas
It seems than at Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:59:55 -0600, Kaleb wrote: Check out gm-diesel.com. Thanks! But it's a web forum Uuugghh! I have had several and never had a problem with one. Good to hear. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com