Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
It looks as though we likely have an easy fix on my problem washer. The centre (center?) post is supposed to be tight to the tub and it was not. Never having worked on such a beast, I was not aware of that. I have sort of discovered the problem by accident while conferring with a fellow in Alberta who knows a whole lot about them. In any event, it appears that I can make myself a wrench out of a piece of pipe and tighten the doodad and we should be good to go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
On 10/01/2011 5:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Your approach is correct. In my experience, you seldom win that first battle. You can expect the potmetal top thing to disintegrate, then you can get the pin out. a propane torch may help. You should be able to buy the new top thing. that is a common item, or it used to be at least. I had a 1980 speed queen that had the same thing. As for the rest of it, you are on the right track. Good luck. Personally, I like the old Easy because they have a high speed spinner to extract the water from the clothes. A better choice is just an old maytag automatic as a second machine. The top loading Old reliable kind that hasn't been made for about 12 years now. If you want to really go retro, get an old maytag wringer, put it on the front porch and use a Maytag gas engine to run it. Put two rockers out there, a gallon clay jug, and sit out there with a double barrel on your lap! - Thanks for your input. Reading on the internet suggests that Maytag and Speedqueen are the best of the old wringers for reliability and parts availability. I found out that one can still buy a new Speedqueen wringer that is a clone of the old ones made in about 1955 if my memory serves to be correct, now manufactured in Saudia Arabia. They are apparently so exactly the same that the new parts will fit the old ones. Parts are likely expensive, but if one wants them, that may be the price one must pay. Interesting (to me at least). I have been in touch with a fellow on another forum who has been very helpful. He has explained how to make a puller to remove the pin without hammering on it. Also a big wrench for removing the piece below it. We might just get this thing apart far enough to see why it leaks without destroying it. We have a Maytag Atlantis washer - about 5 years old - one of the last versions with the agitator I believe as now the top loaders are like the front loaders and do not have an agitator. We might decide to upgrade the primary washer and relegate the existing one to dirty duty if this one does not work out. Time will tell. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
Sounds like my grandparents, though one set had a washer. The other set did not (nor running water nor indoor facilities) until my parents built them a decent house in '68 to replace the Depression farm shack they were living in. I often think that even though that life was tough and the work hard, it contributed to their long lives (80s and 90s for them), even though they ate greasy stuff at every meal with their veggies and home-canned stuff. Some friends we visited the other day had some LG washer dryer set with more lights and displays and knobs than the Apollo command module (and probably more computing power too). Wonders never cease, or maybe they do... --R On 1/10/2011 8:02 PM, WILTON wrote: I recall when I was little, Mama had a black cast iron wash pot in the back yard; 'filled it bucket-by-bucket from a well with bucket and chain lift; 'heated it with wood; she wrung EVERY piece of clothing by hand multiple times as they came out of the pot, out of coupla rinse tubs, etc., before hanging 'em on drying line. She got a Maytag Square tub washer with wringer in 1948; 'still had to move clothing from washer, put 'em through wringer into rinse tubs, etc., then on drying line. She had finally taken her first step out of some of the drudgery of housekeeping of the time. She got an auto washer in 1970; 'never did get a dryer. 'Died in '96 at 99+ years still very fit mentally and physically 'til a week or so before she died. We were blessed and extremely lucky to have had such a capable and determined little lady. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines I recall when I was little my mother had an old wringer machine, or maybe it was one that was left in the basement of the house they bought when I was 9ish, that had a crank ringer. I thought it was way cool, and had fun running random stuff through it until my dad hauled it off. There was also a lot of crap in the attic that my dad and uncle cleaned out, and would not let me be around while they were doing that. Now you have gone and made me remember why I had a miserable childhood, developed a tic, and got addicted to old cars as a way to make up for not being able to play with old junk back then. --R On 1/10/2011 6:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Absolutely true, but not convenient on Sunday afternoon when one is making dinner etc. She has been soaking Tom's dirty clothing in the laundry tub and rinsing and then wringing it out by hand before putting it in the washer but that is not easy. I know as I have helped wring stuff out. We maybe should have gone with a second automatic washer to do just that stuff but she wanted to try this. We won't be out a whole lot if it does not pan out. Randy On 10/01/2011 4:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
I built bathroom and installed H C running water for Mom in 1970; coupla months later I stopped by to see her one afternoon, and she was about to burn a pile of brush in the garden near the outhouse. I said to her, Let's push the outhouse over onto the pile and burn it, too. She replied, Oh no, I wanted to save it. When I asked why, she answered, Oh, for an emergency. As a backup for the inside toilet with the running water, I guess. Anyway, I convinced her to let's have an outhouse burning party; she went in the house and got a coupla glasses of ice and a Pepsi; 'came back out, and we had a great time laughing, joking, etc., while pushing the little building over onto the pile and watching it burn and toasting it with Pepsi for its many years of faithful service - long overdue event; one of the greatest fun times we ever had. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines Sounds like my grandparents, though one set had a washer. The other set did not (nor running water nor indoor facilities) until my parents built them a decent house in '68 to replace the Depression farm shack they were living in. I often think that even though that life was tough and the work hard, it contributed to their long lives (80s and 90s for them), even though they ate greasy stuff at every meal with their veggies and home-canned stuff. Some friends we visited the other day had some LG washer dryer set with more lights and displays and knobs than the Apollo command module (and probably more computing power too). Wonders never cease, or maybe they do... --R On 1/10/2011 8:02 PM, WILTON wrote: I recall when I was little, Mama had a black cast iron wash pot in the back yard; 'filled it bucket-by-bucket from a well with bucket and chain lift; 'heated it with wood; she wrung EVERY piece of clothing by hand multiple times as they came out of the pot, out of coupla rinse tubs, etc., before hanging 'em on drying line. She got a Maytag Square tub washer with wringer in 1948; 'still had to move clothing from washer, put 'em through wringer into rinse tubs, etc., then on drying line. She had finally taken her first step out of some of the drudgery of housekeeping of the time. She got an auto washer in 1970; 'never did get a dryer. 'Died in '96 at 99+ years still very fit mentally and physically 'til a week or so before she died. We were blessed and extremely lucky to have had such a capable and determined little lady. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines I recall when I was little my mother had an old wringer machine, or maybe it was one that was left in the basement of the house they bought when I was 9ish, that had a crank ringer. I thought it was way cool, and had fun running random stuff through it until my dad hauled it off. There was also a lot of crap in the attic that my dad and uncle cleaned out, and would not let me be around while they were doing that. Now you have gone and made me remember why I had a miserable childhood, developed a tic, and got addicted to old cars as a way to make up for not being able to play with old junk back then. --R On 1/10/2011 6:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Absolutely true, but not convenient on Sunday afternoon when one is making dinner etc. She has been soaking Tom's dirty clothing in the laundry tub and rinsing and then wringing it out by hand before putting it in the washer but that is not easy. I know as I have helped wring stuff out. We maybe should have gone with a second automatic washer to do just that stuff but she wanted to try this. We won't be out a whole lot if it does not pan out. Randy On 10/01/2011 4:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:00:19 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anyway, I convinced her to let's have an outhouse burning party; she went in the house and got a coupla glasses of ice and a Pepsi; 'came back out, and we had a great time laughing, joking, etc., while pushing the little building over onto the pile and watching it burn and toasting it with Pepsi for its many years of faithful service - long overdue event; one of the greatest fun times we ever had. That sounds like a lot of fun. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
Absolutely true, but not convenient on Sunday afternoon when one is making dinner etc. She has been soaking Tom's dirty clothing in the laundry tub and rinsing and then wringing it out by hand before putting it in the washer but that is not easy. I know as I have helped wring stuff out. We maybe should have gone with a second automatic washer to do just that stuff but she wanted to try this. We won't be out a whole lot if it does not pan out. Randy On 10/01/2011 4:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
I recall when I was little my mother had an old wringer machine, or maybe it was one that was left in the basement of the house they bought when I was 9ish, that had a crank ringer. I thought it was way cool, and had fun running random stuff through it until my dad hauled it off. There was also a lot of crap in the attic that my dad and uncle cleaned out, and would not let me be around while they were doing that. Now you have gone and made me remember why I had a miserable childhood, developed a tic, and got addicted to old cars as a way to make up for not being able to play with old junk back then. --R On 1/10/2011 6:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Absolutely true, but not convenient on Sunday afternoon when one is making dinner etc. She has been soaking Tom's dirty clothing in the laundry tub and rinsing and then wringing it out by hand before putting it in the washer but that is not easy. I know as I have helped wring stuff out. We maybe should have gone with a second automatic washer to do just that stuff but she wanted to try this. We won't be out a whole lot if it does not pan out. Randy On 10/01/2011 4:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
Your approach is correct. In my experience, you seldom win that first battle. You can expect the potmetal top thing to disintegrate, then you can get the pin out. a propane torch may help. You should be able to buy the new top thing. that is a common item, or it used to be at least. I had a 1980 speed queen that had the same thing. As for the rest of it, you are on the right track. Good luck. Personally, I like the old Easy because they have a high speed spinner to extract the water from the clothes. A better choice is just an old maytag automatic as a second machine. The top loading Old reliable kind that hasn't been made for about 12 years now. If you want to really go retro, get an old maytag wringer, put it on the front porch and use a Maytag gas engine to run it. Put two rockers out there, a gallon clay jug, and sit out there with a double barrel on your lap! Original Message Subject:OT - way OT - old washing machines Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:47:05 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. We looked around and found one that looked good but is obviously old and apparently has not been used in a while. We bought it and hauled it home and have discovered an issue. It leaks like a seive (sp?). A bit of looking leads me to believe it is leaking in the middle of the tub around the hole where the agitator spindle projects up into the tub. I am hoping that whatever is in there as a seal is somewhat generic as I don't know what will be available in parts for this old beast. It is a Simplicity brand. Maybe should have held out for a Maytag or SpeedQueen based upon what I see on the net but a bit late for that now so will try to fix it. My first task is to get enough parts off that I can see the offending seal. There is an aluminum - pot metal doodad surrounding the main agitator shaft. There is a pin through it near the top. I am told it will be a tapered pin and to ensure I drive it out in the correct direction.Should not be a problem as the one side appears to have a head on it - unless it has been peened over but it does not look like that - quite evenly round etc. Then I need to get the aluminum doodad off of the shaft. I am told I need to heat it but to be careful as it may be zamac which is easy to overheat. Will use propane torch and so should be easy enough to be careful. Once I get the agitator drive off of the shaft, I should be able to see what is under it. Right now, the bottom of the agitator drive is about 3 inches in diameter and covers the whole area. Anyone got experience with this sort of thing and have any good suggestions on how to go about it? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines
I recall when I was little, Mama had a black cast iron wash pot in the back yard; 'filled it bucket-by-bucket from a well with bucket and chain lift; 'heated it with wood; she wrung EVERY piece of clothing by hand multiple times as they came out of the pot, out of coupla rinse tubs, etc., before hanging 'em on drying line. She got a Maytag Square tub washer with wringer in 1948; 'still had to move clothing from washer, put 'em through wringer into rinse tubs, etc., then on drying line. She had finally taken her first step out of some of the drudgery of housekeeping of the time. She got an auto washer in 1970; 'never did get a dryer. 'Died in '96 at 99+ years still very fit mentally and physically 'til a week or so before she died. We were blessed and extremely lucky to have had such a capable and determined little lady. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - way OT - old washing machines I recall when I was little my mother had an old wringer machine, or maybe it was one that was left in the basement of the house they bought when I was 9ish, that had a crank ringer. I thought it was way cool, and had fun running random stuff through it until my dad hauled it off. There was also a lot of crap in the attic that my dad and uncle cleaned out, and would not let me be around while they were doing that. Now you have gone and made me remember why I had a miserable childhood, developed a tic, and got addicted to old cars as a way to make up for not being able to play with old junk back then. --R On 1/10/2011 6:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Absolutely true, but not convenient on Sunday afternoon when one is making dinner etc. She has been soaking Tom's dirty clothing in the laundry tub and rinsing and then wringing it out by hand before putting it in the washer but that is not easy. I know as I have helped wring stuff out. We maybe should have gone with a second automatic washer to do just that stuff but she wanted to try this. We won't be out a whole lot if it does not pan out. Randy On 10/01/2011 4:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote: My good wife has decided she needs/wants an old style wringer washing machine for doing dirty jobs like rugs, rags, and my younger son's dirty work clothes (he is a mechanic). She is reluctant to put this stuff in the regular washer. That's what laundromats are for! Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
