Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? Ours hauls our camper around, and/or the car trailer. Also anything heavy (such as a 2600# generator) that I acquire any distance away. (Heinously ratty local stuff I use the rusted-out Chevy pickup for.) Rarely used for just driving around, we have much more efficient vehicles around for that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
yea, thats one of the main reasons I dont like my single cab. I have a big tool box in the back though. Been thinking about getting one of those hard cover deals that lock, you can keep stuff in it then. Curt Raymond wrote: '96 Dodge Dakota v8 extended cab, purchase price $16k in '99. 190k miles on it now. You ever spend much time driving a single cab pickup? The biggest problem is that theres no place to put stuff that can't live in the bed. We take the Dakota to camp where its the primary mover off stuff, we also use it to haul snowmobiles around. The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. The Dakota regularly gets around 18mpg which is interestingly the same as my friends with v6 Dakota's report. I know, real men only need an overnight bag but the wife wants clothes for every condition and I can't imagine if we had kids. That said the Dakota replacement is likely to be a fullsize single cab with a cap tall enough to fit snowmobiles under. The newer fullsize singlecabs get decent mileage. If I can find one for a reasonable price I'll get a little Toyota but that'd have to be an extended cab, not enough space in the bed for a snowmobile and luggage... -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:02:44 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. *SNIP* - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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yea, true David Brodbeck wrote: John Berryman wrote: On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? That's fine, unless you're planning on hauling a 5th wheel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
If you keep an eye on some of the truck sites, those things show up used fairly regularly for around a grand or less., still cheaper than buying a new truck. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, if you want to spend about 4k on one of those. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can effectively put it in direct and under ( in reality, the gear below and over ) to lower the final drive ratio and give you all the pulling oomph you need. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the 1 ton 6.5 td doesnt even know there is a car on a trailer back there, but the burb 6.2 diesel is kind of slow, but gets the job done and gets a little better mileage. Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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any recomendation for a truck site that something like this may show up one, or, what sort of ebay search would yield said piece of equipment? Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: If you keep an eye on some of the truck sites, those things show up used fairly regularly for around a grand or less., still cheaper than buying a new truck. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, if you want to spend about 4k on one of those. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can effectively put it in direct and under ( in reality, the gear below and over ) to lower the final drive ratio and give you all the pulling oomph you need. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the 1 ton 6.5 td doesnt even know there is a car on a trailer back there, but the burb 6.2 diesel is kind of slow, but gets the job done and gets a little better mileage. Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
rumor has it that Mike wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL All that needs is a Cummins BT4 and it'd be perfect! -- Philip, who admires those old Powerwagons
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that if I do sell my truck and get something different Im just going to get one of them car hauling ramp trucks, with the long 20' or whatever flat bed on the back. That way I could haul 2 cars if I wanted to and it will still be cheaper in the end. The advantage of a trailer is the engine isn't attached. Thus you can drop it, switch to a different truck to tow it, buy a new truck to tow it, etc. -- Philip, who likes trailers
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
Kind of why I have my VW with all wheel drive, its cheaper to run than a suv and just as unstoppable as any of them in the snow. Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:41:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 08:02:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Have three. One is the infamous powerchoke (96 F250 extended cab 4x4), one is a dead 88? chevy K30 crew cab dually (6.2/automatic), one is a dead 79 dodge D300 club cab dually (440/automatic). In addition to dragging dead cars all over the place, the truck is used for hauling stuff for the house, and pulling travel trailers. The two duallies were meant to eventually replace the F250 as duallies cure a lot of evils on windy mountain roads with a big heavy trailer. The F250 is equipped with a locker, and is backup for the jeep cherokee as a trail/off road rig. Club cabs/extended cabs are handy for keeping your gear inside and dry if you don't have a shell. I rarely have less than two people ride with me when I have a travel trailer hooked up, so the extra seatbelts don't go unused. How about a second list for SUVs? Two eagle wagons (unstoppable in snow), two 70's jeep cherokees (used for four wheeling, and snow duty since the eagles have been off the road). California doesn't use salt (anymore, for now). K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Here's one of the chebby diesel sites that stays pretty active http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/index.php This site here has a gear vendors listed in the classifieds section for $1500 with a turbo 400 tranny adapter http://www.thedieselpage.com/ There are a bunch of other sites, but I can't remember which ones are worth fooling with, just do a search. I just had a few links from when I was truck shopping a while back. on ebay just search gear vendors or laycock ( gear vendors uses a Laycock overdrive unit very similar to the ones used on Volvos in the 70-80's and british cars going way back. it's a little stouter unit, but many parts interchange ) -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: any recomendation for a truck site that something like this may show up one, or, what sort of ebay search would yield said piece of equipment? Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: If you keep an eye on some of the truck sites, those things show up used fairly regularly for around a grand or less., still cheaper than buying a new truck. -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, if you want to spend about 4k on one of those. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can effectively put it in direct and under ( in reality, the gear below and over ) to lower the final drive ratio and give you all the pulling oomph you need. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the 1 ton 6.5 td doesnt even know there is a car on a trailer back there, but the burb 6.2 diesel is kind of slow, but gets the job done and gets a little better mileage. Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Until you figure in the special high priced insurance for a vehicle designed to haul cars. Rollbacks and wreckers are way high. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that if I do sell my truck and get something different Im just going to get one of them car hauling ramp trucks, with the long 20' or whatever flat bed on the back. That way I could haul 2 cars if I wanted to and it will still be cheaper in the end. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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HAHAHAHA.The gear vendors overdrive costs more than a 6.2 Burban is worth. Mike - Original Message - From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can effectively put it in direct and under ( in reality, the gear below and over ) to lower the final drive ratio and give you all the pulling oomph you need. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the 1 ton 6.5 td doesnt even know there is a car on a trailer back there, but the burb 6.2 diesel is kind of slow, but gets the job done and gets a little better mileage. Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You're right..She lives in a 4 mile long town.All flat from her house to the store. Pitiful! Mike - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? only left the house to buy a bottle of water. Heck, it cost her more to drive that BEAST to the store than it did to purchase the water bottle! She should get a bike and save some $$! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny 2003 Dodge Quad Cab Cummins Diesel pickup, 25K miles, THE TRUCK! side-by-side recumbent tandem bike (gets the best mileage of them all)! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Im not talking about a rollback or a wrecker. Even if it was a rollback or wrecker, if its not for hire the insurance is no different than any other car. Mike Canfield wrote: Until you figure in the special high priced insurance for a vehicle designed to haul cars. Rollbacks and wreckers are way high. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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'96 Dodge Dakota v8 extended cab, purchase price $16k in '99. 190k miles on it now. You ever spend much time driving a single cab pickup? The biggest problem is that theres no place to put stuff that can't live in the bed. We take the Dakota to camp where its the primary mover off stuff, we also use it to haul snowmobiles around. The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. The Dakota regularly gets around 18mpg which is interestingly the same as my friends with v6 Dakota's report. I know, real men only need an overnight bag but the wife wants clothes for every condition and I can't imagine if we had kids. That said the Dakota replacement is likely to be a fullsize single cab with a cap tall enough to fit snowmobiles under. The newer fullsize singlecabs get decent mileage. If I can find one for a reasonable price I'll get a little Toyota but that'd have to be an extended cab, not enough space in the bed for a snowmobile and luggage... -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:02:44 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. *SNIP* - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 19 14:27:45 2006 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FsKjB-0007Fy-Kx for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:27:45 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so2631964uge for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QwLeLeyACO1x8Q0pA1HZccSTg1yi556rupH1vY3pbr0wxY+g/RFUkikoeS/huWjXNEIYWAe1J+bh9maOJISsutVwViqRvlLiu4x6AIpjqSc6IK3+6qsh8w8sjVVbv+D4NA6HIf8vqG9Io3yy5XrfrPPZAQKg8DKKF0JYiLVopTo= Received: by 10.78.69.7 with SMTP id r7mr2132262hua; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.12 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:27:39 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] AC Compressor issue? X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:27:45 - OK, so my 83' 300D didn't have any R134 left in it when I tried it this spring. I put in a few cans and it was working about as well as last year (it provides SOME cooling at highway speeds). Then it wasn't working again a week or so ago. I figured it had leaked out again, so I figured I would try one more time and see if it still leaked out. Well, I put my gauge (cheapy low side only) on and it hissed at me and the gauge read way up into the danger zone (70-90psi maybe?) but the compressor clutch wasn't engaging... I tried letting some pressure out thinking maybe it was too much pressure, but it seemed as though basically I could let the pressure to the normal level, and then it would almost immediately build back up to the danger pressure. I'm assuming perhaps this is just the way it works when going through the expansion valve without the compressor running? Or is this a sign of some other problem? What else should I look for to get the compressor clutch engaging? How likely is it that the clutch itself is dead? Should I try applying 12v to the clutch terminals and be able to see it engage? (preferably without the engine spinning). The blower fan is still working, so I'm assuming there's no fuse issue concerning the clutch... Thanks! Levi
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Not true here in NY. When the INS co. checks the VIN they know it is a wrecker or rollback and will only write a policy that reflects the risk of car hauling. Commercial use is even highr like you said. NY insurance rules SUCK! Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? Im not talking about a rollback or a wrecker. Even if it was a rollback or wrecker, if its not for hire the insurance is no different than any other car. Mike Canfield wrote: Until you figure in the special high priced insurance for a vehicle designed to haul cars. Rollbacks and wreckers are way high. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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John Berryman wrote: On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? That's fine, unless you're planning on hauling a 5th wheel.
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
Ever have one? Try riding a lawnmower or snowmobile into a truck that has a cap... Plus if you haul brush or such you really need to take the cap off. Then if its winter and this is a snowmobiling trip the snowmobile in the back will have snow on it, which will get on your luggage, that and most snowmobiles are long enough you need to leave the tailgate open thus negating 40-50% of the cap. A month ago when we went to camp we too my Cub Cadet, lawn cart, backblade, cultivator and disc all with us, the cart was on top of the cub cadet upside down. Couldn't have done that with a cap on. Good thing we could put the luggage in the extended cab. So to make a long concept a little longer, if you need to haul stuff and people, or stuff and luggage, an extended cab truck makes alot of sense. Using one for a daily driver might not make sense. It does for us, since we can only have 2 cars (nowhere to park more) and my wife only goes a few miles every day. -Curt Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:08:47 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The problem with a single cab is theres nowhere to put your luggage. What about putting a cap on it? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 19 17:06:02 2006 Received: from web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.35]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FsNCL-0005qm-KS for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:06:02 + Received: (qmail 82347 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2006 17:05:53 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6HU7kEV3GeH440cfLSL86PER3kFfvOIytt5qqeCMSRL6eiJUx+srEz3TW7I9LpQrNVBbHdyqFGjEPA98OwLULXp57pSaY3eIB/UvQKzKEUOHMnWEf52PMq8sNpMTrRbPQg6yXf2/bFK7dp27y8oUrGqS8DzoKzwoNW1W5TTIYDI= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:05:53 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:06:02 - Hi Todd, Thats great news! Any idea why the starters won't last? Do you know what kind of HP/Torque your engine is putting out? How about how much the truck weighs? I'm thinking this is a brilliant swap, any idea how much he'll charge for them? I'd definately be interested in that kind of mileage in a fullsize pickup. -Curt Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:47:18 -0400 From: Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke?/Who../BT4 in M37 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Curt, I have the F-150 with the 4BT in and I like pretty well. The biggest problem has been starters and I am on my third one now. All still under warranty but still pretty annoying. My wife and son and his friend drove to Cedar Point, OH from WV to ride some killer roller coasters and was averaging about 28.8-30MPG with cruise running and the A/C on. Kevin, the builder, has learned from my prototype and is improving the next one which is a black '99 F-150 4x4 but I like my well enough. Todd Smith '85 300CD 248K - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 19 17:39:23 2006 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FsNid-00012O-IE for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:39:23
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to have a place in the cab for an ice chest and a couple of suitcases. I use it for short trips like hauling a wrecked 190D home from Ohio. You can thank Kevin in Columbus and my friend's F250 for your wife's monowiper. Klebby has a salvage business. I can't speak for the rest, but when my friend takes a big load of horses or a 9000lb forklift somewhere, he's exceeding the truck's 20k GCWR. Wouldn't want to do it with a smaller truck, but I agree, the same truck with a regular cab would give more performance and better turning radius with less cost and less comfort. Mitch.
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1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Who wants to head off the list? How about a second list for SUVs? I'll start that one. Johnny B. 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo purchase price: $3,000 I was away from home for 4 months, working and my wife's 300SD was having problems that I couldn't address at that time. We live in the Adirondack Mountains where the Winters are long and hard, the terrain is, ugh, mountainous. Neither one of us cares much for SUVs. The Jeep was purchased as a temporary measure and is now for sale as we intended. We're starting to build a house and plan to buy a small Toyota pick-up (without a back seat) for general material hauling. Larger items will be delivered by the seller or I can borrow a larger truck from any one of many who owe me big favors, if needed. The Toyota truck will also be used for transportation when the circumstances dictate. Our MBs will not be driven through snow,ice and salt if we can help it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? My buddy's 2001 F250 club cab has towed horses and forklifts all across the country, the back seat gets used mainly for storage. It's nice to have a place in the cab for an ice chest and a couple of suitcases. I use it for short trips like hauling a wrecked 190D home from Ohio. You can thank Kevin in Columbus and my friend's F250 for your wife's monowiper. Klebby has a salvage business. I can't speak for the rest, but when my friend takes a big load of horses or a 9000lb forklift somewhere, he's exceeding the truck's 20k GCWR. Wouldn't want to do it with a smaller truck, but I agree, the same truck with a regular cab would give more performance and better turning radius with less cost and less comfort. Mitch. Thanks Kevin. So that truck is doing what it's paid for. As it should. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or would be cheaper to buy a nice 99 E300 John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Who wants to head off the list? How about a second list for SUVs? I'll start that one. Johnny B. 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo purchase price: $3,000 I was away from home for 4 months, working and my wife's 300SD was having problems that I couldn't address at that time. We live in the Adirondack Mountains where the Winters are long and hard, the terrain is, ugh, mountainous. Neither one of us cares much for SUVs. The Jeep was purchased as a temporary measure and is now for sale as we intended. We're starting to build a house and plan to buy a small Toyota pick-up (without a back seat) for general material hauling. Larger items will be delivered by the seller or I can borrow a larger truck from any one of many who owe me big favors, if needed. The Toyota truck will also be used for transportation when the circumstances dictate. Our MBs will not be driven through snow,ice and salt if we can help it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL Mike I bet it's even paid for in-full too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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I picked up my 92 f350 diesel crew cab for hauling a 5th wheel camper and for gathering and hauling barrels of waste veg oil. I needed the crew cab with three young'uns. http://photos.thedieselstop.com/showphoto.php?photo=29666 I do enjoy the flatbed, makes loading and unloading things a lot easier. I don't drive it around town much, I've had semi trucks with a better turning radius and without a load on, it's a bit rough on whats left of my spine I couldn't imagine using one of these tanks as a daily driver. And this old beast wasn't expensive, I only have about 5 grand in it ( there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Who wants to head off the list? How about a second list for SUVs? I'll start that one. Johnny B. 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo purchase price: $3,000 I was away from home for 4 months, working and my wife's 300SD was having problems that I couldn't address at that time. We live in the Adirondack Mountains where the Winters are long and hard, the terrain is, ugh, mountainous. Neither one of us cares much for SUVs. The Jeep was purchased as a temporary measure and is now for sale as we intended. We're starting to build a house and plan to buy a small Toyota pick-up (without a back seat) for general material hauling. Larger items will be delivered by the seller or I can borrow a larger truck from any one of many who owe me big favors, if needed. The Toyota truck will also be used for transportation when the circumstances dictate. Our MBs will not be driven through snow,ice and salt if we can help it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or would be cheaper to buy a nice 99 E300 You NEED a truck and use it as one. You'd have to sel[ a helluva lot of parts/cars to break even on a new or even late model truck. You're talented enough to keep about anything running, I couldn't possibly justify a truck in the price-range you mentioned earlier either. Especially when we know a decent deal will eventually come along and we'll roll up our sleeves and make it worth our while. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well I need my truck for long distance car hauling. I think its insane to spend that much on a used truck, much less 40k or more for a new one. For the price of an 04 like I am looking at you can buy a hell of a nice s-class, or would be cheaper to buy a nice 99 E300 You NEED a truck and use it as one. You'd have to sel[ a helluva lot of parts/cars to break even on a new or even late model truck. You're talented enough to keep about anything running, I couldn't possibly justify a truck in the price-range you mentioned earlier either. Especially when we know a decent deal will eventually come along and we'll roll up our sleeves and make it worth our while. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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fuel/gas prices aren't high enough yet. Every day I see someone in a parking lot with their 6,000+ lb suv/pickup idling while they go inside for 5, 10 mins or so. Then there's also the people who sit in the parking lot at work during their lunch hour with the engine running. Sheesh, when will people learn? On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:57:29 -0500, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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That's not much of a compliment, considering how he looks. On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:08:43 -0500, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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I work with men who have too much money. Nearly all of them either have new GMC Dura Max quad cab 4X4 short bed loaded with the fancy schmancy spray in bedliner or new Dodge 3/4 ton max cab long bed 4X4 loaded. Several more dudes have new Powerchokes 4X4 in which they tried to hop it up with some kind of a wicked chip and they ended up toasting something. Most of these clowns use their trucks for nothing more than the occasional trip to Home Despot to carry home a bag of salt and a 2X4. I had a '98 F150, 5 speed, crank windows, no bed liner, no cruise...a TRUCK. Was running like mad until some blivit ran a red light and, well ...you know the rest. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL Mike I bet it's even paid for in-full too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John Berryman wrote: It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing and the occasional hauling or boat launching job. If it was a *really* rural area the truck might not even have a license plate that had been valid in the last decade. ;)
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Our Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins diesel 6spd quadcab pickup pulls our 8000# travel trailer and our 19' boat. It also hauls gear around to our dragon boat races all around the Northwest. It's hauled home exercise equipment, bikes, furniture, a freezer, nothing a smaller truck couldn't do, but it's got room in the quadcab for 4 people and two dogs and gets nearly 23MPG on the highway empty. When it's pullin' the TT, it gets around 16MPG average, I ain't complainin'! When the truck isn't needed (for around town driving), we usually end up riding in one of my parents' cars, the '05 Chrysler TC minivan or the new little HHR (henry). The 300CD is the fun car. Kevin 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:37 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing and the occasional hauling or boat launching job. If it was a *really* rural area the truck might not even have a license plate that had been valid in the last decade. ;) That's how it works around here. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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HHR? Yeah, it's that little Chevy car that's designed after a 1949 Suburban. It's competition is the PT Cruiser, but I think it's much better in every way, ride, power, quietness, fit and finish, and the design, IMO. Here's a link to some HHR info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_HHR Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela
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I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. I inherited an '83 S10 from my brother in March. I was gonna sell it, but then I need to haul some wood chips and compost so it looks like I will be keeping it. My kids also race bmx and it is really convenient jist to pitch the bikes in the bed. I used to have an '86 3/4 ton Chevy that I bought for 500 bucks. I worked at a food plant at the time and used it to haul scrap equipment (stainless) to the scrap yard. 33 cents a pound for around 2-3k pounds a load. Wish I coulda stored it all. I imagine prices have went up. Needless to say that truck paid for itself MANY times over. I also burn wood in the winter and you can't fit much firewood in the back of a 300CD. How about a second list for SUVs? I also inherited a 2000 Ford Explorer. I have been driving it regularly, but I am not real sure what I am gonna do with it. We get lake effect snow here where I live and it could come in real handy in the winter. On the other hand, I have never needed a four wheel drive before. 20 mpg does kinda blow... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb I should have told you last month when a very unique vehicle was advertised in the 5k range. It was a 7.3 PS E350, cut off behind the 2nd row of seats, with a very nice looking towing bed on the back. Somebody probably paid $50k for the thing when it was new. I suggested it to a horse trainer who I thought needed a truck, turns out the idiot just had just bought a 3500 Chev with 454, gets 4 mpg at 75mph with a big horse trailer on it. Could probably get 6mpg if he didn't drive like a fool. I don't think my buddy's 2001 F250 6sp has ever gotten less than 10mpg, even with the aforementioned idiot trainer driving it. I've gotten 13-15 with a 12k horse trailer at 60-65mph. The new record for that truck is 25.1mpg at 55mph, with some stop-n-go, and the A/C running full time. (it won't turn off, runs no matter where the climate control knob is set) Mitch.
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Same thing here. I have a 1980 ford 150 that goes to the garbage dump two or three times a year. It has the 25 year old antique tag, the last one I'll ever have to buy for it. My 81 240D qualifies for the antique tag but my wife won't let me put one on because she likes to drive it and the tag does say Antique. I am smarter that the average bear in these matters. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:37 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: In rural areas I've lived in, where parking ordinances weren't a problem, it was pretty common for people to have a rusty old truck for snow plowing and the occasional hauling or boat launching job. If it was a *really* rural area the truck might not even have a license plate that had been valid in the last decade. ;) That's how it works around here. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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NO DOUBT Met a lady at the local C-store one day just a ranting and raving about the price of gas as she filled up her Ford Excursion. Pointed out the fact that she paid 4 times as much per gallon for the bottle of spring water she had in her hand..She was STILL irate at the price of gas because she only get's 8-9MPG in her car. In talking with her I found out she had no children to cart around in the big white bus and in fact had only left the house to buy a bottle of water. I feel no pitty for ANYONE in the USA whining about gas prices with an attitude like that and it's very common. Mike - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:46 PM, Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: there's no way I'd even consider dropping 30 grand on a pickup truck, you could buy a used semi with a small engine and convert it to an rv for a whole lot less money and get better fuel milage ) --Robert It just baffles me how many people shell-out the big bucks and launch their boat 3 times a year and then just drive it to work every day. Same folks are pissin' and moanin' about fuel prices. Makes no cents to me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OUCH!! That stinks. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? I work with men who have too much money. Nearly all of them either have new GMC Dura Max quad cab 4X4 short bed loaded with the fancy schmancy spray in bedliner or new Dodge 3/4 ton max cab long bed 4X4 loaded. Several more dudes have new Powerchokes 4X4 in which they tried to hop it up with some kind of a wicked chip and they ended up toasting something. Most of these clowns use their trucks for nothing more than the occasional trip to Home Despot to carry home a bag of salt and a 2X4. I had a '98 F150, 5 speed, crank windows, no bed liner, no cruise...a TRUCK. Was running like mad until some blivit ran a red light and, well ...you know the rest. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why? On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: 1968 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 4x4 Hauls scrap metal at least once a week just hauled 50 locust posts to a local winery today hauled out 2 loads of firewood to season for winter last weekend burns junk gas from scrap cars Top that for a daily driverLOLOL Mike I bet it's even paid for in-full too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. Yeah, the stick has to help the mpgs a bit. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Well, the burb probably dogs out due to the rear end ratio. The trick to compensate for that is to get one of those gear vendors over/underdrive units. you will get an extra overdrive for highway cruising and get even better fuel milage when not loaded down , but when towing you can effectively put it in direct and under ( in reality, the gear below and over ) to lower the final drive ratio and give you all the pulling oomph you need. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the 1 ton 6.5 td doesnt even know there is a car on a trailer back there, but the burb 6.2 diesel is kind of slow, but gets the job done and gets a little better mileage. Also thought about finding a mid 90's 3.4 ton 6.5 td with a 5 speed, that would probably get pretty decent mileage without the slushbox. John Berryman wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep. The only reason I was really looking was for the extended cab to get more people in if needed. I will be sticking with my 95 and my diesel burb Dayum, you are smarter than you look!! With the burb, there's plenty of seating anyway. Which one is your preferred hauler? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 08:02:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Have three. One is the infamous powerchoke (96 F250 extended cab 4x4), one is a dead 88? chevy K30 crew cab dually (6.2/automatic), one is a dead 79 dodge D300 club cab dually (440/automatic). In addition to dragging dead cars all over the place, the truck is used for hauling stuff for the house, and pulling travel trailers. The two duallies were meant to eventually replace the F250 as duallies cure a lot of evils on windy mountain roads with a big heavy trailer. The F250 is equipped with a locker, and is backup for the jeep cherokee as a trail/off road rig. Club cabs/extended cabs are handy for keeping your gear inside and dry if you don't have a shell. I rarely have less than two people ride with me when I have a travel trailer hooked up, so the extra seatbelts don't go unused. How about a second list for SUVs? Two eagle wagons (unstoppable in snow), two 70's jeep cherokees (used for four wheeling, and snow duty since the eagles have been off the road). California doesn't use salt (anymore, for now). K
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
Good questions. I generally despise pickup trucks, especially the kind that are all prissed up and prettified to the extent that they cease to maintain any utility whatsoever. I've always preferred vans to trucks; probably always will. My vans have hauled nearly everything everything I've ever needed, and can tote seven folks around if needed. A small utility trailer will handle the odd-shaped stuff that won't fit in the van. My '93 Dodge Cummins Clubcab 4x4 was a beast to maneuver and had the worst turning radius of any vehicle I've ever driven--bar none. It was the first and probably last truck I'll ever purchase (love that Cummins though). I've never needed an SUV (stupid useless vehicle) On 6/17/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just gotta ask, What do you guys need these huge expensive trucks for? I feel trucks were intended to be used for work. Trucks with back seats cost more to purchase and run, lengthen wheelbase resulting in lousy turning radii and were intended to haul your tools, equipment, materials and work crew. I'd like to see a list of truck owners and how each uses it. Who wants to head off the list? How about a second list for SUVs? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (215k) '84 300D (213k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] OT Powerstroke? Who needs them and why?
Two eagle wagons (unstoppable in snow), Yeah! We had a 1982 Eagle with the big 258 C.I 4.2L I6 with a 5spd behind it, and it was one of the best snow cars we've ever had! It was about 9 years ago, and we paid $2K for it. However, the main seal and clutch went out soon after purchase with only 85K on the car (185K)? Once that was fixed along with the timing chain, it drove like new until my nephew locked up the tranny one day. It acted like it was stuck between gears, and the shifter didn't feel right anymore. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204k miles, Giesela
