Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

One of the meth heads they contact for deliveries might shoot my ass

--FT

On 2/8/22 7:19 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

On 2022-02-07 23:33, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I have a tracking number and signed up for updates. I think it
only weighs like 25lb so less than the dog food I get by fedex. But
the postal service here is awful. It’ll probably get stolen by these
local delivery clowns or I’ll get a “delivered” notice then it will be
nowhere to be found, or an undeliverable notice that my address
doesn’t exist.


When tracking hits your local PO, go there the next morning and harass 
the carrier in the loading area for it?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

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On 2022-02-07 23:33, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I have a tracking number and signed up for updates. I think it
only weighs like 25lb so less than the dog food I get by fedex. But
the postal service here is awful. It’ll probably get stolen by these
local delivery clowns or I’ll get a “delivered” notice then it will be
nowhere to be found, or an undeliverable notice that my address
doesn’t exist.


When tracking hits your local PO, go there the next morning and harass 
the carrier in the loading area for it?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I have a tracking number and signed up for updates. I think it only weighs 
like 25lb so less than the dog food I get by fedex. But the postal service here 
is awful. It’ll probably get stolen by these local delivery clowns or I’ll get 
a “delivered” notice then it will be nowhere to be found, or an undeliverable 
notice that my address doesn’t exist. 

Loosers. 

--FT
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> On Feb 7, 2022, at 11:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> USPS for that size item will come truck freight, LTL [less than truck load]
> so it will be consolidated with other shipments and items going sort in the
> same direction, loaded, unloaded, reloaded, and sent out again for the next
> leg of the shipment to somewhere sort of in your direction Expect at
> least 15 days transit, or more.
> I hope the sales house gave you a tracking number [and insurance].
> Good luck!
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I get a message that this welder has shipped this morning from AUBURNDALE,
>> FL  from an Amazon facility via the USPS. I guess that means I’ll see it in
>> 3 months or so if it ever actually gets here. But on a positive note,
>> shipping was free!
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[G Mann via Mercedes]

USPS for that size item will come truck freight, LTL [less than truck load]
so it will be consolidated with other shipments and items going sort in the
same direction, loaded, unloaded, reloaded, and sent out again for the next
leg of the shipment to somewhere sort of in your direction Expect at
least 15 days transit, or more.
I hope the sales house gave you a tracking number [and insurance].
Good luck!

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I get a message that this welder has shipped this morning from AUBURNDALE,
> FL  from an Amazon facility via the USPS. I guess that means I’ll see it in
> 3 months or so if it ever actually gets here. But on a positive note,
> shipping was free!
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I get a message that this welder has shipped this morning from AUBURNDALE, FL  
from an Amazon facility via the USPS. I guess that means I’ll see it in 3 
months or so if it ever actually gets here. But on a positive note, shipping 
was free!

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I started out rebuilding and repairing Miller 400A "buzz boxes" (as we called 
them) for pipeline and tank builders for one of my Dad's customers right out of 
high school. With the right stick you could butt weld 1/4" plate and thicker 
with one of those things. Worked on Lincoln Pipeliners, too, the engine driven 
Lincolns that used a 4 cylinder Continental engine. Those things were the 240D 
of the welding business.

Never formally learned to weld, but I can push a mean puddle with a stick 
welder. We had MIG and TIG welders, too, but those took some time and practice 
to master.

Also learned why you never wanted shirts or pants with cuffs when you welded, 
too...

-D

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

The Lincoln Electric stick machine I am using at the college is a big nice 
machine, inverter with knobs for amps and other settings and some push buttons 
for stuff and digital numbers. I don’t recall the model

--FT
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> On Feb 7, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> 
>>
>> low cost MIG welders all work fine in as much as they are just big 
>> transformers.
>
> The one in question here [Yes] is inverter-based.  So, not just iron and wire,
> but rather electronics.  My cheap dropped Hobart is the heavy stuff.  Not much
> at all to go wrong.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The Lincoln Electric stick machine I am using at the college is a big nice 
machine, inverter with knobs for amps and other settings and some push buttons 
for stuff and digital numbers. I don’t recall the model 

--FT
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> On Feb 7, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> low cost MIG welders all work fine in as much as they are just big 
>> transformers.
> 
> The one in question here [Yes] is inverter-based.  So, not just iron and wire,
> but rather electronics.  My cheap dropped Hobart is the heavy stuff.  Not much
> at all to go wrong.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> low cost MIG welders all work fine in as much as they are just big 
> transformers.

The one in question here [Yes] is inverter-based.  So, not just iron and wire,
but rather electronics.  My cheap dropped Hobart is the heavy stuff.  Not much
at all to go wrong.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

https://kickinghorsewelders.com/products/kickinghorse-a100-arc-welder

I bought a Kicking Horse 110v stick welder a few years ago to use on my little 
loader project. I wanted something that could accomplish a little more 
penetration than my Lincoln HandyMIG could get. I've been very impressed with 
it. Previously I'd used some no-name Chinese AC welder my dad got at a tool 
show and was terribly unimpressed. This thing starts arcs easily and lays down 
nice weld. 

I've got the equivalent Harbor Freight welder which is actually a little less 
powerful: 
https://www.harborfreight.com/welding/welders/tig-stick-welders/arc/80-amp-inverter-arc-welder-64057.html
Notice that it's actually more expensive...
I bought that one when the tractor seat broke on me back in 2020 and I couldn't 
get it repaired on a Saturday afternoon. Frankly I was STUNNED by the quality 
of weld I managed to pull of with that thing. That repair is actually some of 
the best looking welding I've ever done. It was quite fiddly too, a fairly 
small chunk of the seat base failed at the pivot point which left the seat 
flopping around potentially dropping me off the back...

Anybody wanting to learn stick welding or to just weld at home would do well 
with the Kicking Horse.

I think I paid about $300 for my HandyMig, its about $350 now. It's paid for 
itself many times over...

-Curt



On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 03:14:13 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I try very hard to avoid Chinese made products so when I bought my tig welder a 
few months ago I went with a used Miller.
If you want a cheaper chinky chow welder then maybe Everlast is your best bet. 
They have made a name for themselves and seem to be well regarded.

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> On Feb 6, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Being in my first few weeks of stick welding class and really enjoying it 
> (and getting sorta half decent with my weld quality after burning a lot of 
> sticks) I was thinking about a machine.  I have been seeing these Yeswelder 
> products, and it looked like a coupla chinese guys were bringing one to the 
> shop to be tested out a coupla weeks ago.  (I haveyetnot seen it running but 
> will ask around).  My instructor mentioned he had put some money toward their 
> kickstarter some time ago and ended up buying 2 machines ~$500 each based on 
> that.  I'm not sure which machines he got, but I saw this multi-process 
> machine with a 30% discount bringing it to $335.72 shipped.
> 
> https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205
> 
> Some review vids suggest it is a decent little machine for the money.  I 
> figure for that it would be hard to go wrong for $336 so I ordered one.  
> Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.  I'll start with stick then 
> as I learn I will try the other modes.  I got a cutoff tool and a welder 
> coming!  Dangerous man!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I try very hard to avoid Chinese made products so when I bought my tig welder a 
few months ago I went with a used Miller.
If you want a cheaper chinky chow welder then maybe Everlast is your best bet. 
They have made a name for themselves and seem to be well regarded.

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> On Feb 6, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Being in my first few weeks of stick welding class and really enjoying it 
> (and getting sorta half decent with my weld quality after burning a lot of 
> sticks) I was thinking about a machine.  I have been seeing these Yeswelder 
> products, and it looked like a coupla chinese guys were bringing one to the 
> shop to be tested out a coupla weeks ago.  (I haveyetnot seen it running but 
> will ask around).  My instructor mentioned he had put some money toward their 
> kickstarter some time ago and ended up buying 2 machines ~$500 each based on 
> that.  I'm not sure which machines he got, but I saw this multi-process 
> machine with a 30% discount bringing it to $335.72 shipped.
> 
> https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205
> 
> Some review vids suggest it is a decent little machine for the money.  I 
> figure for that it would be hard to go wrong for $336 so I ordered one.  
> Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.  I'll start with stick then 
> as I learn I will try the other modes.  I got a cutoff tool and a welder 
> coming!  Dangerous man!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

From what I have heard/read, the low cost MIG welders all work fine in as much 
as they are just big transformers. Where they cheap out is in the quality of 
the wire feed mechanism, the gun/torch and cables.

By the time you buy a cheap welder, then upgrade the gun, the gas hose, the 
ground clamp, the wire feed, and put a usefully-long power cord on it, you need 
to compare those costs and the extra time to what a Miller or Lincoln machine 
would have cost.

I'm not familiar with the Yes welder specifically.
 

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> I hope you have good luck with it.
>
> I stuck with name brand welders. I cannot claim to be a proficient 
> welder but the whole process interests me. I have a Lincoln 220V  180A 
> Mig and a Lincoln 225A AC/DC 125A  stick welder. I had a Lincoln 225A AC 
> welder for a while and upgraded to the one with DC as well. The AC stick 
> welder worked well for sticking heavier steel together. I initially 
> bought it to repair/rebuild a boat trailer and it worked well. Must be 
> more than 15 years since my son and I did the boat trailer and nothing 
> has come apart. We were both novices and enjoyed doing it. We had 2 
> helmets so we could watch each other weld too.
>
> The other logical choice is the Miller brand.
>
> I also bought a 220V spot welder last year but have yet to use it. I 
> have acquired some further bits from Banggood to control the spot 
> welder. A fellow I know is rebuilding an old Porsche body from the early 
> 60s using a spot welder. He says that is how they were built at the 
> factory so he sees no reason not to do the same.
>
> I see lots of offshore stuff offered these days and wonder about 
> quality. I did hold my nose and buy a Chinese made plasma cutter just 
> after Christmas but have not used it at all. Too cold here to work 
> outside so will have to wait for spring. I bought the plasma cutter from 
> a Canadian company that has a good reputation for standing behind the 
> stuff they sell so if it does not perform, I should be OK. I really need 
> to upgrade the amount of electrical power into my garage so that I can 
> use these things to their full potential.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 2/6/2022 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I've been watching some vids about the machine and they seem to 
>> suggest the machine is quite decent for what it is and seems to be 
>> reliable in fairly heavy hobby use but who knows.  One guy posted a 
>> sheet for settings and yeah they say the manual is not very good.  
>> Seems to be enough of them getting out there that there will be some 
>> blogs and forum support.  I guess I will find out over time.
>>
>> I got one of their auto-darkening welding helmets and it works really 
>> well.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 2/6/22 11:23 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205
>>>
>>> Doesn't look horrible.  The Chinglish will no doubt be very frustrating.
>>> I like that the displays are LED rather than LCD, but I'm no fan of the
>>> little disc flat pushbuttons.  I wonder how long it will operate before
>>> something goes wrong with the 'brain'.  Once it does, game over.
>>>
>>> The 220V adapter is a HORRIBLE idea!  There are standard plugs, cords,
>>> and sockets that would have done the job, but that would have cost
>>> them another couple of dollars.  Just don't screw up and plug anything
>>> ELSE into that adapter, unless you want to kill it and/or start a fire.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Reminds me of when, as a young college student, I built a set of speakers and 
thought it would be clever to use standard electrical extension cords as 
speaker wire, so I fitted standard 3-prong 120VAC connectors on the speaker 
cabinets. Very easy to unplug and move around as needed. Of course nobody would 
*ever* be stupid enough to plug one into a wall outlet... If I had been even 
more clever I would have used the neutral and ground legs.


On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205 
>> 
>
> Doesn't look horrible.  The Chinglish will no doubt be very frustrating.
> I like that the displays are LED rather than LCD, but I'm no fan of the
> little disc flat pushbuttons.  I wonder how long it will operate before
> something goes wrong with the 'brain'.  Once it does, game over.
>
> The 220V adapter is a HORRIBLE idea!  There are standard plugs, cords,
> and sockets that would have done the job, but that would have cost
> them another couple of dollars.  Just don't screw up and plug anything
> ELSE into that adapter, unless you want to kill it and/or start a fire.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I hope you have good luck with it.

I stuck with name brand welders. I cannot claim to be a proficient 
welder but the whole process interests me. I have a Lincoln 220V  180A 
Mig and a Lincoln 225A AC/DC 125A  stick welder. I had a Lincoln 225A AC 
welder for a while and upgraded to the one with DC as well. The AC stick 
welder worked well for sticking heavier steel together. I initially 
bought it to repair/rebuild a boat trailer and it worked well. Must be 
more than 15 years since my son and I did the boat trailer and nothing 
has come apart. We were both novices and enjoyed doing it. We had 2 
helmets so we could watch each other weld too.


The other logical choice is the Miller brand.

I also bought a 220V spot welder last year but have yet to use it. I 
have acquired some further bits from Banggood to control the spot 
welder. A fellow I know is rebuilding an old Porsche body from the early 
60s using a spot welder. He says that is how they were built at the 
factory so he sees no reason not to do the same.


I see lots of offshore stuff offered these days and wonder about 
quality. I did hold my nose and buy a Chinese made plasma cutter just 
after Christmas but have not used it at all. Too cold here to work 
outside so will have to wait for spring. I bought the plasma cutter from 
a Canadian company that has a good reputation for standing behind the 
stuff they sell so if it does not perform, I should be OK. I really need 
to upgrade the amount of electrical power into my garage so that I can 
use these things to their full potential.


Randy


On 2/6/2022 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I've been watching some vids about the machine and they seem to 
suggest the machine is quite decent for what it is and seems to be 
reliable in fairly heavy hobby use but who knows.  One guy posted a 
sheet for settings and yeah they say the manual is not very good.  
Seems to be enough of them getting out there that there will be some 
blogs and forum support.  I guess I will find out over time.


I got one of their auto-darkening welding helmets and it works really 
well.


--FT

On 2/6/22 11:23 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205


Doesn't look horrible.  The Chinglish will no doubt be very frustrating.
I like that the displays are LED rather than LCD, but I'm no fan of the
little disc flat pushbuttons.  I wonder how long it will operate before
something goes wrong with the 'brain'.  Once it does, game over.

The 220V adapter is a HORRIBLE idea!  There are standard plugs, cords,
and sockets that would have done the job, but that would have cost
them another couple of dollars.  Just don't screw up and plug anything
ELSE into that adapter, unless you want to kill it and/or start a fire.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I've been watching some vids about the machine and they seem to suggest 
the machine is quite decent for what it is and seems to be reliable in 
fairly heavy hobby use but who knows.  One guy posted a sheet for 
settings and yeah they say the manual is not very good.  Seems to be 
enough of them getting out there that there will be some blogs and forum 
support.  I guess I will find out over time.


I got one of their auto-darkening welding helmets and it works really well.

--FT

On 2/6/22 11:23 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205


Doesn't look horrible.  The Chinglish will no doubt be very frustrating.
I like that the displays are LED rather than LCD, but I'm no fan of the
little disc flat pushbuttons.  I wonder how long it will operate before
something goes wrong with the 'brain'.  Once it does, game over.

The 220V adapter is a HORRIBLE idea!  There are standard plugs, cords,
and sockets that would have done the job, but that would have cost
them another couple of dollars.  Just don't screw up and plug anything
ELSE into that adapter, unless you want to kill it and/or start a fire.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205 
> 

Doesn't look horrible.  The Chinglish will no doubt be very frustrating.
I like that the displays are LED rather than LCD, but I'm no fan of the
little disc flat pushbuttons.  I wonder how long it will operate before
something goes wrong with the 'brain'.  Once it does, game over.

The 220V adapter is a HORRIBLE idea!  There are standard plugs, cords,
and sockets that would have done the job, but that would have cost
them another couple of dollars.  Just don't screw up and plug anything
ELSE into that adapter, unless you want to kill it and/or start a fire.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Send details. Im sure shipping would be a bit spendy 

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> 
> 
> Oh, you already ordered something and it does MIG.
> I was going to suggest you buy my Onan powered Lincoln stick welder.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Oh, you already ordered something and it does MIG.
I was going to suggest you buy my Onan powered Lincoln stick welder.

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