Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-24 Thread Wonko the Sane
154.600 would be VHF spectrum.

On 9/23/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, based on the freq these things are using, is it VHF or UHF?

 154.600




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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread ernest breakfield
while i wouldn't describe myself as a radio buff, from what i saw in a 
quick search on them, they appear to have been (now obsolete) 1 channel 
1 watt radios,... you already seem to know the frequency (assigned in a 
non-government exclusive part of the spectrum designated for Land Mobile 
use); what exactly did you want to know about them?


cheers!
e
n6zes


Redghost wrote:
 Motorola Spirit 1
 model # P23KNC00A3AA


 F1
 -T 154.600grn
 -R 154.600 grn

 handie talkie fm radio

 V10

 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:

   
 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Redghost
That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know  
about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this  
thing have been used?

thanks for the data

clay

On 23 Sep 2007, at 12:28, ernest breakfield wrote:

 while i wouldn't describe myself as a radio buff, from what i saw  
 in a
 quick search on them, they appear to have been (now obsolete) 1  
 channel
 1 watt radios,... you already seem to know the frequency (assigned  
 in a
 non-government exclusive part of the spectrum designated for Land  
 Mobile
 use); what exactly did you want to know about them?


 cheers!
 e
 n6zes


 Redghost wrote:
 Motorola Spirit 1
 model # P23KNC00A3AA


 F1
 -T 154.600grn
 -R 154.600 grn

 handie talkie fm radio

 V10

 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:


 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and  
 I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web  
 search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out

 -- 
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 -Benjamin Disraeli
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Luther
VHF is FM; UHF is FM
Very High Frequency
Ultra High Frequency
Frequency Modulation

VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/receive in.  FM 
has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning that happens before the 
transmitter.


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:18:49 -0500, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know
 about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this
 thing have been used?

 thanks for the data

 clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Clay!

VHF and/or UHF only refer to the frequency range the radio operates on.
your original e-mail subject line acknowledges that you already knew 
it was VHF, and the frequency you said it works in is definitely in the 
VHF portion of the spectrum, so i'm not sure why that's a question.

FM only refers to how the radio operates on the frequencies it uses. 
as for FM, most (but not necessarily all) radios in either the VHF or 
UHF portions of the spectrum would only use Frequency Modulation (FM), 
as did these.

where would it have been used? could have been anything from talking 
across a campground to janitorial dispatch in a high-rise building,... 
not sure why it matters, but if you're curious, why not ask the source 
you got it from?


cheers!
e


Redghost wrote:
 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know about 
 a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this thing have 
 been used?

 thanks for the data

 clay

 On 23 Sep 2007, at 12:28, ernest breakfield wrote:

 while i wouldn't describe myself as a radio buff, from what i saw in a
 quick search on them, they appear to have been (now obsolete) 1 channel
 1 watt radios,... you already seem to know the frequency (assigned in a
 non-government exclusive part of the spectrum designated for Land Mobile
 use); what exactly did you want to know about them?


 cheers!
 e
 n6zes


 Redghost wrote:
 Motorola Spirit 1
 model # P23KNC00A3AA


 F1
 -T 154.600grn
 -R 154.600 grn

 handie talkie fm radio

 V10

 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:


 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out

 -- 
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 Norman, OK
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 -Benjamin Disraeli
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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:18:49 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Redghost wrote:
  Motorola Spirit 1
  model # P23KNC00A3AA
 
 
  F1
  -T 154.600grn
  -R 154.600 grn
 
  handie talkie fm radio

 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know  
 about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this  
 thing have been used?
 
 thanks for the data

I see we have some confusion here.

FM is a type of modulation: frequency modulation, where the transmitter's
frequency is varied according to the voltage of the (audio) signal to be
transmitted.

Another type is AM, amplitude modulation, where the transmitter's
amplitude (power level) is varied according to the voltage of the (audio)
signal to be transmitted.

There are others, but these are the main two people run into.

Either type may be used with any frequency of transmitter.

The problem is that people assume that amplitude modulation has to be used
at a frequency that corresponds to the AM broadcast band, about 1 MHz, and
FM has to be used at a frequency that corresponds to the FM broadcast
band, about 100 MHz. They do not. FM is typically used at higher
frequencies because it takes more bandwidth -- the FM broadcast channels
are 200 kHz apart while the AM broadcast channels are 10 kHz apart.

The frequency bands are (very!) roughly (and subject to disagreement):

300 kHz - 3 MHz  Long wave
  3 MHz  - 30 MHzShort wave, high frequency (HF)
 30 MHz - 300 MHz very high frequency (VHF)
300 MHz - 1000 MHz   Ultra high frequency (UHF)

So, your handie talkie radios are FM modulated VHF radios.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Mitch Haley

My question would be do they work together or do they require a repeater 
tower that was turned into a cell tower 15 years ago?
I used to use something like this in the 1980s, Motorola walkie talkies,
I think they were VHF, and the monthly subscription fee was comparable to
a phone bill. I'm not sure if the tower system was necessary, or if it
only extended the range. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Not to mention broadcast range (higher the frequency the shorter the range).


On 9/23/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 VHF is FM; UHF is FM
 Very High Frequency
 Ultra High Frequency
 Frequency Modulation

 VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/receive
 in.  FM has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning that happens
 before the transmitter.






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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
FM is Frequency Modulation - the incoming signal modulates the frequency of
the broadcast.

AM is Amplitude Modulation - the incoming signal modulates the amplitude or
immediate strength of the broadcast.

FM is not as susceptible to noise interference  is why FM radio is clearer
than AM radio. This is also why an AM radio will pick up lightning strikes
while FM rarely will.

Thanks,
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Not to mention broadcast range (higher the frequency the shorter the range).


On 9/23/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 VHF is FM; UHF is FM
 Very High Frequency
 Ultra High Frequency
 Frequency Modulation

 VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/receive
 in.  FM has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning that happens
 before the transmitter.






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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Redghost
Ok, based on the freq these things are using, is it VHF or UHF?

154.600

On 23 Sep 2007, at 16:02, Luther wrote:

 VHF is FM; UHF is FM
 Very High Frequency
 Ultra High Frequency
 Frequency Modulation

 VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/ 
 receive in.  FM has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning  
 that happens before the transmitter.


 On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:18:49 -0500, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know
 about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this
 thing have been used?

 thanks for the data

 clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Redghost
I am not radio savvy, so had no idea that the freq was actually VHF,  
just a guess on my part.

the radios came in a box of junk I picked up at auction and I just  
needed to figure out what they are good for.  Seems not much as far  
as I need them to be.  I already have FRS radios that should work  
fine for my uses.

clay

On 23 Sep 2007, at 16:19, ernest breakfield wrote:

 hi Clay!

 VHF and/or UHF only refer to the frequency range the radio  
 operates on.
 your original e-mail subject line acknowledges that you already  
 knew
 it was VHF, and the frequency you said it works in is definitely in  
 the
 VHF portion of the spectrum, so i'm not sure why that's a question.

 FM only refers to how the radio operates on the frequencies it  
 uses.
 as for FM, most (but not necessarily all) radios in either the VHF or
 UHF portions of the spectrum would only use Frequency Modulation (FM),
 as did these.

 where would it have been used? could have been anything from  
 talking
 across a campground to janitorial dispatch in a high-rise building,...
 not sure why it matters, but if you're curious, why not ask the source
 you got it from?


 cheers!
 e


 Redghost wrote:
 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know  
 about
 a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this thing  
 have
 been used?

 thanks for the data

 clay

 On 23 Sep 2007, at 12:28, ernest breakfield wrote:

 while i wouldn't describe myself as a radio buff, from what i  
 saw in a
 quick search on them, they appear to have been (now obsolete) 1  
 channel
 1 watt radios,... you already seem to know the frequency  
 (assigned in a
 non-government exclusive part of the spectrum designated for Land  
 Mobile
 use); what exactly did you want to know about them?


 cheers!
 e
 n6zes


 Redghost wrote:
 Motorola Spirit 1
 model # P23KNC00A3AA


 F1
 -T 154.600grn
 -R 154.600 grn

 handie talkie fm radio

 V10

 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:


 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands  
 and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web  
 search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out

 -- 
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 -Benjamin Disraeli
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Redghost
Ok, now it is clear and not so muddy.   Good to know just what I am  
looking at instead of being confuddled by terms I know not.

clay



On 23 Sep 2007, at 16:45, Craig McCluskey wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:18:49 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 Redghost wrote:
 Motorola Spirit 1
 model # P23KNC00A3AA


 F1
 -T 154.600grn
 -R 154.600 grn

 handie talkie fm radio

 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know
 about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this
 thing have been used?

 thanks for the data

 I see we have some confusion here.

 FM is a type of modulation: frequency modulation, where the  
 transmitter's
 frequency is varied according to the voltage of the (audio) signal  
 to be
 transmitted.

 Another type is AM, amplitude modulation, where the transmitter's
 amplitude (power level) is varied according to the voltage of the  
 (audio)
 signal to be transmitted.

 There are others, but these are the main two people run into.

 Either type may be used with any frequency of transmitter.

 The problem is that people assume that amplitude modulation has to  
 be used
 at a frequency that corresponds to the AM broadcast band, about 1  
 MHz, and
 FM has to be used at a frequency that corresponds to the FM broadcast
 band, about 100 MHz. They do not. FM is typically used at higher
 frequencies because it takes more bandwidth -- the FM broadcast  
 channels
 are 200 kHz apart while the AM broadcast channels are 10 kHz apart.

 The frequency bands are (very!) roughly (and subject to disagreement):

 300 kHz - 3 MHz  Long wave
   3 MHz  - 30 MHzShort wave, high frequency (HF)
  30 MHz - 300 MHz very high frequency (VHF)
 300 MHz - 1000 MHz   Ultra high frequency (UHF)

 So, your handie talkie radios are FM modulated VHF radios.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Redghost
These work together and get good signal strength.  Both have the  
rechargeable battery, but one is dead, so I had to use a 9v to power  
the dead one.


clay

On 23 Sep 2007, at 17:38, Mitch Haley wrote:


 My question would be do they work together or do they require a  
 repeater
 tower that was turned into a cell tower 15 years ago?
 I used to use something like this in the 1980s, Motorola walkie  
 talkies,
 I think they were VHF, and the monthly subscription fee was  
 comparable to
 a phone bill. I'm not sure if the tower system was necessary, or if it
 only extended the range.
 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Luther
VHF

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:29:48 -0500, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, based on the freq these things are using, is it VHF or UHF?

 154.600

 On 23 Sep 2007, at 16:02, Luther wrote:

 VHF is FM; UHF is FM
 Very High Frequency
 Ultra High Frequency
 Frequency Modulation

 VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/
 receive in.  FM has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning
 that happens before the transmitter.


 On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:18:49 -0500, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 That about sums up most of the data.  What else is there to know
 about a radio?  IS it only FM or is it UHF/VHF?  Where would this
 thing have been used?

 thanks for the data

 clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread Luther
Will have a radio2radio range of approx 5-10 miles, depending on the terrain 
and buildings.  Maybe less if it's not flat/treeless like 
Kansas/Nebraska/SD/ND/etc.

Luther


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:48:13 -0500, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 VHF

 On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:29:48 -0500, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, based on the freq these things are using, is it VHF or UHF?

 154.600

 On 23 Sep 2007, at 16:02, Luther wrote:

 VHF is FM; UHF is FM
 Very High Frequency
 Ultra High Frequency
 Frequency Modulation

 VHF/UHF has to do with the frequency range that they transmit/
 receive in.  FM has to do with the type of signal/wave conditioning
 that happens before the transmitter.







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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-23 Thread ernest breakfield
yes they'd work together directly (called Simplex), no they don't 
require a repeater.

i'm still waiting to see if anyone's going to ask if it's legal to 
use the frequency these are reportedly on without licensing,...   ;-)


cheers!
e


Mitch Haley wrote:
 My question would be do they work together or do they require a repeater 
 tower that was turned into a cell tower 15 years ago?
 I used to use something like this in the 1980s, Motorola walkie talkies,
 I think they were VHF, and the monthly subscription fee was comparable to
 a phone bill. I'm not sure if the tower system was necessary, or if it
 only extended the range. 
 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-22 Thread OK Don
Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-22 Thread Redghost
Motorola Spirit 1
model # P23KNC00A3AA


F1
-T 154.600grn
-R 154.600 grn

handie talkie fm radio

V10

On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:

 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out

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 Norman, OK
 There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF

2007-09-22 Thread Redghost
Motorola Spirit 1
model # P23KNC00A3AA


F1
-T 154.600grn
-R 154.600 grn

handie talkie fm radio

V10

On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote:

 Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.?

 On 9/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am
 trying to learn something about them.  Did fast and dirty web search
 and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with
 knowledge that will enlighten me.  Radio buffs, respond

 over

 out

 -- 
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 -Benjamin Disraeli
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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