Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Curt Raymond
I want to figure out a lever to switch between inside and outside...

We run a woodstove most of the winter so the added moisture should be helpful...

-Curt

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:42 PM

You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that one winter in 
Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up with too much moisture in 
the area (fogged the windows, etc.). 


On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My darling wife hung much of our laundry out this year which seemed to make a 
difference in our electricity useage but not as major as I would have thought. 
In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if 
it will impact our oil usage...




-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Wilton Strickland
A caution.  Check underside of roof occasionally during winter to make sure
excessive moisture is not condensing there - 'does in many areas of the
country.

Wilton

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  I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the
  end of
  the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be
  changed
  occasionally.

 I would think something larger like a pillowcase would be better.

 As far as moisture goes, it depends on where you live.  Here it
 would be welcome all winter.  My heating system has a 2kW water
 boiler in it that can't even begin to keep up.  I suspect that
 anyplace where a swamp cooler is effective wouldn't have a problem
 venting into the house, if the lint were controlled.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Loren Faeth
Womens pantyhose make a better filter.  You get two bags, and the 
stretch out as they fill.

At 08:32 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote:
I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of
the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed
occasionally.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
  BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
  and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
  heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
  inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
  I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.
 
  Wilton
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Curt Raymond
A pair of the wife's stockings around the duct will kill the lint problem...
The moisture problem bothers me a little.
The idea of a heat exchanger interests me although it won't get as much of the 
heat as just ducting it in would and as I say we could actually benefit from 
some of the moisture. I wonder if I couldn't duct out some of the moist warm 
air through a smaller pipe to push warm air off the heat exchanger...
I may have to weld up a piece of stove pipe as a rudimentary heat exchanger and 
try this idea out... If nothing else it keeps me out of the bars.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:36 -0400
From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.

Wilton



  
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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote:
 Womens pantyhose make a better filter.  You get two bags, and the 
 stretch out as they fill.

With all the lint that comes out the dryer vent, I've got to think the only 
purpose for the dryer's internal lint screen is to start fires that can be 
blamed on the homeowner for failing to clear the screen.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Well, if you want a practical solution on what to do with all that lint?

Get a spinning wheel and make thread or yarn, then take up weaving or  
knitting...   And viola!  Fully recyclable piece of clothing.!

Just a thought!   Too much time on my hands, I agree!

Chuck

On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

 Loren Faeth wrote:
 Womens pantyhose make a better filter.  You get two bags, and the
 stretch out as they fill.

 With all the lint that comes out the dryer vent, I've got to think  
 the only
 purpose for the dryer's internal lint screen is to start fires that  
 can be
 blamed on the homeowner for failing to clear the screen.

 Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Bill R
We did the pantyhose thing one winter [west central Indiana] and I don’t
remember any problems.  I also don't remember doing it a second time,
though.  My memory never was what it sort of remember it used to be.
BillR

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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

A pair of the wife's stockings around the duct will kill the lint problem...
The moisture problem bothers me a little.
The idea of a heat exchanger interests me although it won't get as much of
the heat as just ducting it in would and as I say we could actually benefit
from some of the moisture. I wonder if I couldn't duct out some of the moist
warm air through a smaller pipe to push warm air off the heat exchanger...
I may have to weld up a piece of stove pipe as a rudimentary heat exchanger
and try this idea out... If nothing else it keeps me out of the bars.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:36 -0400
From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.

Wilton



  
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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:37:06 -0400, Mitch wrote:

 Curt Raymond wrote:
  In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air
  outside to see if it will impact our oil usage...
 
 
 That kind of moisture can do real damage to a house...

Or be a great assistance to keeping the humidity above 10%...

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Your mpg may vary. Lots of variables.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems than at Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:37:06 -0400, Mitch wrote:

  Curt Raymond wrote:
   In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air
   outside to see if it will impact our oil usage...
 
 
  That kind of moisture can do real damage to a house...

 Or be a great assistance to keeping the humidity above 10%...

 --Philip




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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-23 Thread OK Don
The fibers are too short to make thread from. We tried making hand
laid paper with it - still too short, had to mix it with other fibers.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, if you want a practical solution on what to do with all that lint?

 Get a spinning wheel and make thread or yarn, then take up weaving or
 knitting...   And viola!  Fully recyclable piece of clothing.!


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Curt Raymond
My darling wife hung much of our laundry out this year which seemed to make a 
difference in our electricity useage but not as major as I would have thought. 
In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if 
it will impact our oil usage...

-Curt

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Subject: RE: [MBZ] RE  What about you?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:01 PM

I change out light bulbs when they burn out, but having so many little ones
running about they do tend to spend a lot of time on.  Other than convincing
my darling wife that she is not really hot, and the sweat running down her
back must be from a thyroid problem [so her ophthalmologist thinks, also]
there is not a whole lot more we can do.  In a few weeks the windows can be
opened and that will help a lot for a month or so --  maybe we could cut
down on the washer/dryer use by all becoming nudists.  Old chubby white guy,
cute wife, 91 YO MIL ... OUCH - my EYES ..my MIND   We will come up with
the money somewhere.
BillR 

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:44 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] RE What about you?

HOLY SNOT!

I start to get real upset when we go over $60... Of course the A/C hasn't
been on since July. Very mild summer here this year.
We burn about 500 gallons of oil and 2 cords of wood in the winter, the tax
is about $1000 a year. Pretty easy on the wallet this house. I expect the
oil bil to go down when I insulate the attic better and again when I have
the furnace replaced. The electric goes down a penny or two every time one
of the old 100watt bulbs (the old man that owned the house had all 100watt
bulbs) dies and I replace it with a 9w cf...

-Curt


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:25:29 -0400
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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
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I am looking at an absolutely ridiculous electric bill for last month.  I
used the same amount of electricity as the same month last year, but my bill
is much higher due a fuel surcharge.  A normal Summer electric bill for the
house and apartment would be under $400, this year it is $525.  I assume
everyone is getting some of this - but more than a 25% increase is pretty
steep.

BillR

Jacksonville FL

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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that one winter
in Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up with too much
moisture in the area (fogged the windows, etc.).

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My darling wife hung much of our laundry out this year which seemed to make
 a difference in our electricity useage but not as major as I would have
 thought. In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside
 to see if it will impact our oil usage...

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Wilton Strickland
Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.

Wilton

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 You mean you are going to vent the dryer into the house? Did that one
winter
 in Maine -- the results were not all that good. Ended up with too much
 moisture in the area (fogged the windows, etc.).

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  My darling wife hung much of our laundry out this year which seemed to
make
  a difference in our electricity useage but not as major as I would have
  thought. In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air
outside
  to see if it will impact our oil usage...
 
  -Curt
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of
the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed
occasionally.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
 BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
 and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
 heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
 inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
 I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.

 Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote:
 In another couple weeks I'm going to stop sending dryer air outside to see if 
 it will impact our oil usage...


That kind of moisture can do real damage to a house...


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Rich Thomas
You can use that in your navel you know.

--R

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the end of
 the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be changed
 occasionally.

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   
 Not only excessive moisture in the house, but lint, too.
 BTW, there is an attachment for the duct that can recover most of that heat
 and still exhaust the moisture and lint outside.  It's an X-type duct with
 heat exchanger in the middle - dryer air goes outside, the heat stays
 inside, but you don't get something for nothing - 'have to run a small fan,
 I think, to move house air through the heat exchanger.

 Wilton


 


   
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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-22 Thread Jim Cathey
 I installed (I am sure duct tape was involved) one of my socks to the 
 end of
 the dryer discharge hose. Caught 99% of the lint -- but had to be 
 changed
 occasionally.

I would think something larger like a pillowcase would be better.

As far as moisture goes, it depends on where you live.  Here it
would be welcome all winter.  My heating system has a 2kW water
boiler in it that can't even begin to keep up.  I suspect that
anyplace where a swamp cooler is effective wouldn't have a problem
venting into the house, if the lint were controlled.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-21 Thread Loren Faeth
EH? trying to poison the planet with all that mercury! Aye?

At 08:43 PM 9/20/2008, you wrote:
HOLY SNOT!

I start to get real upset when we go over $60... Of course the A/C 
hasn't been on since July. Very mild summer here this year.
We burn about 500 gallons of oil and 2 cords of wood in the winter, 
the tax is about $1000 a year. Pretty easy on the wallet this house. 
I expect the oil bil to go down when I insulate the attic better and 
again when I have the furnace replaced. The electric goes down a 
penny or two every time one of the old 100watt bulbs (the old man 
that owned the house had all 100watt bulbs) dies and I replace it 
with a 9w cf...

-Curt


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:25:29 -0400
From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] What about you?
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

I am looking at an absolutely ridiculous electric bill for last month.  I
used the same amount of electricity as the same month last year, but my bill
is much higher due a fuel surcharge.  A normal Summer electric bill for the
house and apartment would be under $400, this year it is $525.  I assume
everyone is getting some of this - but more than a 25% increase is pretty
steep.

BillR

Jacksonville FL

1981 300SD 304k miles




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Re: [MBZ] RE What about you?

2008-09-21 Thread Bill R
I change out light bulbs when they burn out, but having so many little ones
running about they do tend to spend a lot of time on.  Other than convincing
my darling wife that she is not really hot, and the sweat running down her
back must be from a thyroid problem [so her ophthalmologist thinks, also]
there is not a whole lot more we can do.  In a few weeks the windows can be
opened and that will help a lot for a month or so --  maybe we could cut
down on the washer/dryer use by all becoming nudists.  Old chubby white guy,
cute wife, 91 YO MIL ... OUCH - my EYES ..my MIND   We will come up with
the money somewhere.
BillR 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:44 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] RE What about you?

HOLY SNOT!

I start to get real upset when we go over $60... Of course the A/C hasn't
been on since July. Very mild summer here this year.
We burn about 500 gallons of oil and 2 cords of wood in the winter, the tax
is about $1000 a year. Pretty easy on the wallet this house. I expect the
oil bil to go down when I insulate the attic better and again when I have
the furnace replaced. The electric goes down a penny or two every time one
of the old 100watt bulbs (the old man that owned the house had all 100watt
bulbs) dies and I replace it with a 9w cf...

-Curt


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:25:29 -0400
From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] What about you?
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

I am looking at an absolutely ridiculous electric bill for last month.  I
used the same amount of electricity as the same month last year, but my bill
is much higher due a fuel surcharge.  A normal Summer electric bill for the
house and apartment would be under $400, this year it is $525.  I assume
everyone is getting some of this - but more than a 25% increase is pretty
steep.

BillR

Jacksonville FL

1981 300SD 304k miles



  
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